Posts by dubstepped

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I'm getting baptized

by BlackWolf in

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i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

You've already pointed out that there are certain things you have doubts about, and that's good. However, he's going to come full bore with JW reasoning on a bunch of things. In the end, baptism is about head knowledge but also the heart. All he is attempting to address is the head knowledge part. Typical of JW's because nobody can make you feel anything. I think that you are so freaking brave and we're all cheering for you. Do what you can with the advice from others. In the end, you aren't ready in your heart and it isn't a matter of gathering facts and answering questions. You just aren't old enough to make the commitment. You aren't ready maturity wise, as far as they need to know. Some people meet the person they would be great with in a marriage when they're young but they just aren't ready for the commitment. I hope that intellectually you can beat this back, but JW's have answers for everything even if the answer is to "wait on Jehovah" or some similar crap. Keep us posted. We've got your back.

Did your parents become JW's later in life? If so, they had a chance to learn and grow as a person before finding "the Truth", they should understand on some level that being your own person helps you to make mature decisions. Your brain isn't even fully formed until you're in your late twenties. Jesus was baptized at 30. You have to be allowed to do things on your own time. After all, if your parents had been visited with "the Truth" earlier on in life they may not have been ready for it, but you don't just get one chance in life. This isn't your one chance to get baptized. You have many years ahead of you. Maybe you can reason with your parents on this note somewhat. If they were visited by JW's earlier in life and weren't ready, then no amount of pushing would make them ready. In fact, it would have pushed them away and made them less likely to listen when they were ready. All you are doing is asking for the same consideration. Forcing you into something because intellectually you know it is "the Truth" (as far as they're concerned) doesn't make you emotionally ready. A young man or woman can have sex much earlier in life than they're ready. Merely having some part of an equation doesn't make you ready.

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Hi everyone!

by cognac in

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was just listening to a song that made me think of the jws so thought i'd say hi and see how everyone is.

i'm doing ok. kids are fine.

i'm good, making tons of friends, very successful in my career, bla bla bla.

dubstepped

Glad to hear things are going well and that you're adjusting.

We've been focusing on building new relationships and strengthening old ones this year and it has been great. We have more people wanting to do things with us than we have time, and that's such a change from the old JW days. We went camping with some people and that was a first for us, going out camping with "worldly people", even though we've done other things with them before. They were on weed and wine, and one guy brought mushrooms, things that would have made us uncomfortable in the past, but we had fun and they did their thing while we were sober. We played games and laughed until they cried, and it was a good time. It is so nice to have that "live and let live" mentality where everyone can be themselves and do what they want so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

My wife is having a first birthday party. I know you and her have texted back and forth before in the past so you know who she is. She is really excited and we're going to rent a place for it this Sunday. It should be a good time and it's so nice to have people to invite that actually want to be there and support her.

Life outside the Borg is so great. We love our new life. I wish the same for everyone that escapes their hold.

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Our thoughts on the latest JW Broadcast for the month of May

by Christian Gutierrez in

howdy guys!

this is our latest video on the jw broadcast in short form.

we talk about jw marriage challenges.

dubstepped

Doubtfully Yours: They are both young, dumb and full of (edited so this post shows).
Have going for them the wonderful notion that they escaped while their whole life is still ahead of them. SO..... Live!!!
Stop looking in the rear view mirror the WTBTS already.
DY

Says the person that has been on here for 13 years with over 3200 posts that is STILL sticking up for Jehovah's Witnesses. Damn, that's straight up pathetic. You might want to check yourself before trying to tell others what to do.

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I'm getting baptized

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

dubstepped

Damn, you're discouraged from telling anyone before making it through the questions first and your mom is already spreading the word. Granny hasn't come yet and will be out nothing if you change your mind now. Your mom is just using that as leverage.

In the end, do what you have to in order to make it through. Your parents will shun you eventually regardless. Like my parents and those of many other JWs, they only love you as a JW. The religion is the basis, the beginning and end. It is always in the middle.

In the end you don't have to get dunked. Nobody can physically force you. It's all a matter of which consequences you want to face. Again, you've been put in an unfair place like so many other young ones.

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Our thoughts on the latest JW Broadcast for the month of May

by Christian Gutierrez in

howdy guys!

this is our latest video on the jw broadcast in short form.

we talk about jw marriage challenges.

dubstepped

Is Doubtfully Yours the same person as Sledracer?

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This is how to motivate inactive ones!

by stuckinarut2 in

interesting take on how to motivate inactive ones.... https://www.lds.org/youth/video/reaching-out-through-love?lang=eng.

it is interesting to compare and contrast witnesses and mormans....!.

dubstepped

So many similarities, yet such a different message. Here's a clue JWs, to summarize the video and help you be a better cult...... don't be a dick. Genuine interest in people helps. Well that, or maybe a brochure blaming the people that leave for being deficient in some way. I've had so many people say "how is shunning supposed to make you want to come back". It doesn't really. It might be a deterrent for some so they don't leave in the first place, but it's not loving or welcoming in any way. Then again, their dickery does serve as a protection because it pushes so many away and keeps them free from the toxic poison that is Jehovah's Witnesses.

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All Gays Are Perverts

by Coded Logic in

"scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.

but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.

--romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.

dubstepped

My wife and I clean houses and have worked for gay couples over the years and enjoyed knowing them like anyone else, even as JWs. However, I knew Witnesses that would turn away jobs with gay couples. I always found that horrifying, but their reactions were ones of fear and it was so strange to me.

My last conversation with my dad before disassociating and subsequent shunning was him yelling at me for "loving the gays". It was a ridiculous, Bible thumping, bigoted and unreasonable diatribe directed at me because apparently years before I had mentioned things like genetics and how few of us choose our sexuality and therefore I " always took their side". He had harbored that for years.

JWs can be really over the top in their reactions. I'm glad to be away from them.

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My brother died last night

by LisaRose in

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i found out this morning that my brother died last night, he was also an ex jw, 73 years old and died of heart disease and kidney failure.

it was not totally unexpected, as he had been in poor health, but it's a blow, especially as i just lost another brother two years ago.

there were six of us, now only four.

dubstepped

I'm sorry for your loss. I just lost my dad a month ago. Death is tough, even if expected.

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I'm getting baptized

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

dubstepped

If I remember correctly, she is home schooled and very isolated other than time she gets to spend with horses. I may be misremembering but don't have time to go read her previous threads.

Just as her parents need to recognize she's just a child, so do some here. Your human rights or whatever don't mean a thing when your parents have your life by the short hair. She's in a bad position. She can't just tell her parents how it is and put them in their place, in all likelihood, without repercussions. It isn't fair for her parents to put her in a position where she MUST get baptized, and it isn't fair for us to do the opposite and apply pressure. She's a kid caught in a no win situation. Your rights as a kid go as far as those with power over you let them go, no list changes that unless she's willing and strong enough (how many kids are?) to exercise listed rights and get people in her corner.

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I'm getting baptized

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

dubstepped

Sweetie, if you have to play the game, then play it. Only you know what you're facing and what you can handle. You're not annoying at all. Any backlash here is just pain speaking from people that also went down a path. If your parents are threatening you, do what you have to do to get through your childhood.

Please take care of yourself. Take it one day at a time. None of us wants to see you baptized because we know what happens later, but ultimately you have to survive today before you can worry about tomorrow.

(((((A million hugs)))))

You mentioned an incident that you don't want to happen again. If you want to share you have listening ears here and we all want to help.

If baptism if in your future, I support you. I wish it didn't have to be that way but understand why it may have to be. They can never take away who you truly are underneath if you don't let them.