Notalone, and drifting away, enjoy your first Christmases. This is our first too. We disassociated so we're already doomed to people that shun us, so they get no say in out lives, which is a relief. The first lights we put up were outside on our porch. I even put a tree out there. All the JWs that know where we live can see, and I don't care. It's awesome to be truly free. It's awesome to see the beauty in the spirit of good people around this time. Do the holidays however you're comfortable and enjoy what they bring to your life. Good for you! I'm 39, my wife is 36. I actually remember the magic of Christmas until I was 8 and my mom started studying. I'm happy to have a measure of it back.
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1st christmas ever
by notalone inso, i am around 50,4th gen born in- christmas.
strange thing this christmas thing.
i've been watching people this year, really watching them.
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"While I love my two children very much, I feel today I should never have had them."
by running_away inthis is interesting:.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38145118.
"a whole lot of the time, i just don't like being a mother, and i generally don't fit well into this role.".
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dubstepped
I don't get why people feel like everyone must feel like they do. I applaud those strong enough to admit that they don't enjoy parenthood. Not everyone wants kids. My wife and I don't. Funny thing is that most people, parents themselves, that ask us about it end up saying we made a wise choice. There are pros and cons to just about anything, including having or not having children. The culture elevates parenthood to near mythical god-like status. If parenthood appeals to you, enjoy the heck out of it, but don't expect everyone else to be like you. Having a child doesn't make a person naturally suited toward parenthood. -
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The Book of Mormon
by dubstepped inmy wife and i went to see it today at the encouragement of some of our new friends.
we laughed until we cried, and it was so cathartic to sit in a room full of hundreds of people laughing at the ridiculousness of religion.
sure, the subject is mormonism, but it was very poignant and applicable to all religion.
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dubstepped
@Pete - My wife and I quickly noticed the ad in the program for their church. We were astounded. Either they really just don't get it, or they're just that arrogant.
We donated money afterward for the AIDS charities they were collecting for. I shook the hand of one of the actors and told him that although we weren't Mormon, we were recent ex-Jehovah's Witnesses and I thanked him sincerely for his part in the play. It meant a lot. We also saw some people dressed as Mormons, just like you, and according to one usher I overheard talking and that actor we met, there have been many Mormons that watched it and liked it. I can't really imagine how they could like it AND be Mormon, but whatever.
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The Book of Mormon
by dubstepped inmy wife and i went to see it today at the encouragement of some of our new friends.
we laughed until we cried, and it was so cathartic to sit in a room full of hundreds of people laughing at the ridiculousness of religion.
sure, the subject is mormonism, but it was very poignant and applicable to all religion.
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dubstepped
It is a play, developed by the same guys that did the cartoon South Park. It is very blunt, non-politically correct, and it just takes shot after shot at Mormon beliefs and religious beliefs in general if you think about it. It is a famous Broadway play in the United States. I don't know where it travels to, but if you look it up and find that it is near you, it is worth the price of admission. Be forewarned, it has similar humor in it to the South Park cartoon, but it is intelligent. There are lessons too, about kindness and such. It's not all irreverent.
Edit to add: It looks like you can go on youtube and find both acts one and two recorded from various plays. You can listen to the songs as well. Might be worth viewing, though nothing like seeing it in person.
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The Book of Mormon
by dubstepped inmy wife and i went to see it today at the encouragement of some of our new friends.
we laughed until we cried, and it was so cathartic to sit in a room full of hundreds of people laughing at the ridiculousness of religion.
sure, the subject is mormonism, but it was very poignant and applicable to all religion.
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dubstepped
My wife and I went to see it today at the encouragement of some of our new friends. We laughed until we cried, and it was so cathartic to sit in a room full of hundreds of people laughing at the ridiculousness of religion. Sure, the subject is Mormonism, but it was very poignant and applicable to all religion. If you haven't seen it, you really owe it to yourself. We left the theater just awestruck at how much applied to the dubs and our lives growing up. If it comes to a town near you, see it.
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Crisis of Conscience: December 12, 2015 - 50 weeks later
by Jehalapeno inon december 12, 2015 this statement was made by the copyright holder:.
i am presently considering three different routes to publishing crisis of conscience.
i hope to make a decision within days and plan to publish within weeks.. it has now been 50 weeks since that statement.. has the book been published yet?
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dubstepped
If her health won't allow her to pursue this, then turn it over to someone that can/will. Seems like many are willing to help. I too wonder if her capacity is minimized by the cult.
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Crisis of Conscience: December 12, 2015 - 50 weeks later
by Jehalapeno inon december 12, 2015 this statement was made by the copyright holder:.
i am presently considering three different routes to publishing crisis of conscience.
i hope to make a decision within days and plan to publish within weeks.. it has now been 50 weeks since that statement.. has the book been published yet?
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dubstepped
I can't believe that anyone would say to let sleeping dogs lie and besides, there's other books on the subject. Really? Are they written by former governing body members with great Biblical insight? We're not just talking any book here, we're talking the most influential book in helping people leave the cult. Until this person gets off their duff and gets this book out, long live piracy because it helps people and that's more important than a copyright someone is sitting on. Lives are at stake. COC was a huge help to my wife and I and I'm thankful that someone had pdf files and even an audio version. Changed my life for the better. Put the damn book out and I'll pay for one too, but until then it needs to be available and if piracy is the only option, that's on the copyright holder.
Oh, and thanks Nathan Natas for trying to help the project, along with others. It needs to be readily available.
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Jehovah God is Real
by TakeOffTheCrown inthere are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.
but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.
yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..
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dubstepped
Actually, as one of Jehovah's loyal servants you should have nothing to do with us, so why are you here? Says more about you than it does us. Shame on you. What must Jehovah think of you?
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Jehovah God is Real
by TakeOffTheCrown inthere are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.
but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.
yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..
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dubstepped
This thread is like reading about Jehovah in the Bible. Lots of words from someone claiming to know something without any facts or ability to answer questions or challenges. I guess Jehovah is real then, assuming this is. You have me convinced! All glory be to TOTC!
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Jehovah God is Real
by TakeOffTheCrown inthere are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.
but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.
yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..
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dubstepped
So then, is Allah real too? If not, what's the difference?