At one time the teaching was that you could stand here in the USA. You didn't put your hand over your heart or sing the song, but standing was part of showing respect. Sometimes I think they're just being contrarian for contrarian's sake. They just like forcing their views on others, going against the grain so to speak.
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Injustice In India Over National Anthem
by Iown Mylife injehovah’s witnesses will seek to overturn the apex court’s order .
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Jehovah's Wonderous Creation - The Guinea Worm
by pale.emperor inyou're not likely to see this in an awake!
magazine, but here goes.
for those that believe in intelligent design please explain this one to me:.
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dubstepped
Of course it's in Africa. Makes me think of this scene from The Book Of Mormon. Hasa diga ebowai!
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Leaving the jws is a "lifestyle choice" according to a counsellor
by purrpurr inso i had my first appointment with a counsellor, of course i explained about being a born in jw, mentally leaving, the penalty of doing so and therefore the mental strain of pretending to be someone i'm not.
her response was that she couldn't help me with that because leaving a cult was a "lifestyle choice".
i tried to say to her that its a cult not a religion and how it brain washed me but no.
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You know it's the Truth, because it attracts crazy people.
by schnell ini wish i was kidding, but i have heard this idea suggested lately as a defense of the wts.
this is god's organization, even though it attracts crazy people, and because it attracts crazy people.
"unlettered and ordinary," et cetera.. i don't get it.
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Scratchme10101: Those were exactly my thoughts when I started recovering from my WT-induced depression. I looked at some of the fools in the congregation, and to some of the intelligent ones who were dealing with issues rather than logic and actual knowledge, and the nut cases who were just downright creepy, and started telling myself "This doesn't match such spiritual paradise I've been told all my life about; I'm not sure I want to spend eternal life with these people".
That last statement about spending eternity with them was one that struck me too. I'll pass.
One more thing, dubstepped. Please, please tell me you didn't try the garlic enema thing!
Ha-ha, nope, never tried it. My mom told me the story of the Radio Shack 9V battery. She was playing cards with sisters, some elderly, and one elderly sister was telling everyone how she was curing her colon cancer by shocking herself with the 9V battery. She could tell it was working because her stool was black. That's the cancer leaving the body, she said. Who could possibly argue with such sad, deluded logic?
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You know it's the Truth, because it attracts crazy people.
by schnell ini wish i was kidding, but i have heard this idea suggested lately as a defense of the wts.
this is god's organization, even though it attracts crazy people, and because it attracts crazy people.
"unlettered and ordinary," et cetera.. i don't get it.
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dubstepped
One day we were at a meeting and I told my wife to look around us. I asked her, out of all of the people on this earth, do you think THESE are the ones that have it right? The people that we knew in the organization from our birth congregations to where we ended up later in life were NOT known for making wise life decisions. I looked at the disaster of a family that introduced my family to "The Truth", I looked at all of Jehovah's "happy" depressed people around me at the meeting, the people that believed that garlic enemas kept you healthy and that something made from a 9V batter and some wire at Radio Shack cured cancer. I watched people that somehow always had every rare side effect to every medication that they ever took, and people that made poor financial decision after poor financial decision.
I also watched my own life thrive the farther I got from "The Truth". I watched my crippling social anxiety and suicidal depression nearly vanish. I watched my bank account grow. I watched my wife's face as she started to smile and seem more alive than ever. I watched as people that I thought loved me all turned their back just as my life was starting to get good, and I watched people that I was told to be scared of embrace me and celebrate my new happy life.
Jehovah's Witnesses are crazy. The second definition of crazy is "extremely enthusiastic". Jehovah's Witnesses are crazy about Jehovah's Witnesses. They have lost touch with reality. They believe in another world altogether and have buried the authentic person within under the "new personality". As a result, they suffer from mental and physical illnesses. It is sad. However, if a person is actively in the organization, just look around you and ask yourself, are these people known for good decision making and accurate observations? It just may save your life.
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2017 Yearbook released
by bohm ini saw this on reddit:.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5mlgsm/2017_yearbook_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.
overall the numbers are better than last year (1.8% growth compared to 1.5% last year -- as i predicted ;-) ) with an increase in all major figures including 1300 more congregations (i assume this is not physical kingdom halls?).
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Well, those 3,000 extra partakers are obviously mentally ill. Not necessarily because the governing body said they are to discredit them, but because they're Jehovah's Witnesses in the first place. It just comes with the territory.
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20/20 special about scientology with a representative!
by nonjwspouse ini just ran across it on abc.
a scientology representative is discussing leah remini and others.
the representative is such a spinner.
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I don't see her making much progress on that front, but I applaud her efforts. Shut 'em down!
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20/20 special about scientology with a representative!
by nonjwspouse ini just ran across it on abc.
a scientology representative is discussing leah remini and others.
the representative is such a spinner.
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She is their lawyer and obviously adept at spinning, though you and I can see through it. They will assassinate the character of anyone that questions them, just like Jehovah's Witnesses.
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You wake up one morning and see
by A Believer inthe un has banned religion.
what are you're thoughts?.
also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.
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The end is to come like a thief in the night and catch people off guard, the day nor the hour that anyone knows, isn't that what the scriptures say? Only doomsday groups like Jehovah's Witnesses spend their time trying to predict the end with guesses as to the timelines, and are proven to be wrong over and over and over again like the false prophets that they are.
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My Dad wants to study with me
by BlackWolf inso my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.
the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.
he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.
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I wholeheartedly disagree with those saying that you should study with your dad and challenge him if he has anger issues. When something is unhealthy, you don't double down on it and hope that it somehow changes, you get out of it. You can't just leave, but I would do whatever I could to NOT study with him. You aren't going to change his mind, you will only piss him off because he wants to control you, thus the pressure. Find ways to delay or get out of it. You have quite a history on here and we've chatted in pm's, so you know that giving in and getting baptized isn't a great move either. It must be hard to be isolated and under constant pressure. I don't remember how old you would be now, but you as you get closer to old enough to move out he may ramp up the pressure. Your deliverance is near though. Don't give up as you get closer to freedom.
If a person can get you to take one step with them, it is much easier to get you to take a second, and a third, etc. It is sales. If a door to door salesman can get you to stand there and talk to them, they're laying groundwork for a sale and people will buy when they though they'd never do such a thing. If you take this study, you're taking that first step. Beware. In the end, it's your life, and none of us know all of the circumstances, so we can't tell you what to do, but we can give you our opinions, and this is mine.