Lol @ Richard "erring on the side of The Watchtower" Oliver. Of course you would first assume that it must be that her case was weak and she took anything she could get. Smdh.
Whatever she got, good for her, though it will never be enough.
news bulletin: fessler versus watchtower – opening statements and motions in jehovah’s witness child abuse trial – day 1. .
posted on february 12, 2017. city hall, philadelphia, pennsylvania.
on a cold philadelphia morning the 7th of february, 2017, stephanie fessler walked into the court of common pleas of pennsylvania, first judicial district, civil trial division.
Lol @ Richard "erring on the side of The Watchtower" Oliver. Of course you would first assume that it must be that her case was weak and she took anything she could get. Smdh.
Whatever she got, good for her, though it will never be enough.
so here's a link to the latest jw podcast.
in it they talk about how the organization is structuring things in australia to get out of paying money to victims of abuse.
the short version, as i remember it, is that they are making each congregation its own individual charity.
@zeb - That was actually one of the better shows for audio quality, lol. I know that's hard to believe, but their audio is typically crap. I put up with it because the content is worth the suffering. I'm glad that they passed their info on to the ARC. Surely the ARC can see through their crap. I don't know what they can do about it though.
so here's a link to the latest jw podcast.
in it they talk about how the organization is structuring things in australia to get out of paying money to victims of abuse.
the short version, as i remember it, is that they are making each congregation its own individual charity.
Clearly money will be the thing they're trying to protect from that Armageddon, right. They like to talk about people throwing their money in the streets as it is valueless, but they sure are fighting tooth and nail to keep anyone from getting their hands on it.
Thanks! I guess I've not seen her around here, though maybe she isn't active here anymore. I guess she made it out too from the way she was mentioned. So great to see things work out in the end.
so here's a link to the latest jw podcast.
in it they talk about how the organization is structuring things in australia to get out of paying money to victims of abuse.
the short version, as i remember it, is that they are making each congregation its own individual charity.
So here's a link to the latest JW Podcast. In it they talk about how the organization is structuring things in Australia to get out of paying money to victims of abuse. The short version, as I remember it, is that they are making each congregation its own individual charity. It is a layer to keep it from the main organization. It also keeps them under the threshold needed to report income, so the money that they take in is on the down low because it is now broken up into 800+ individual charities, one for each congregation, assembly hall, etc. So when someone that has suffered abuse comes to sue them for redress, the congregation will have to be targeted specifically, and each congregation can just thrown their hands up and say that they don't have any assets, so therefore the government will pay, not them.
But, you ask, what about the property and the building? Well, it looks like the Borg has created a company that owns the property separate from all of the above, and they lease the property to the congregations so that they have no assets.
Even the headquarters was traced to something like the International Bible Students of Great Britain, where most of the donations are funneled to so that the headquarters in Australia has no money either.
Layer on layer of weaseling out of helping those hurt under their care, or as Neal put it in the podcast, exactly what Jesus would do, lol. They are truly a despicable organization.
https://jwpodcastshow.podbean.com/e/s03e15-too-many-chiefs-not-enough-indians/
Thanks for the answer Simon. That's fascinating.
Who is Angharad? I believe I've seen the name before but can't place it. I could guess, but I'll just let you fill me in. I like knowing the genesis of all of this and really appreciate that this site, unlike many others, has stuck around.
have we ever noticed how witnesses are constantly being told that life is something that needs to be "endured", rather that "enjoyed"?.
life is always so tough, so hard, so difficult in "these last days".
"persecution and trials abound".
@carla - JWs would likely see that as pointing to their future paradise where life would be had more abundantly (forever) and it would be had to the full (in perfection as god originally intended). They see it through that narrative, not as though speaking to life today. I would assume that other religions see it as pointing to heavenly life.
Hey Simon, so it looks like this started out as a pro-JW forum, amirite? How long did it take to turn the other way? I find this very interesting. I guess I don't really know the backstory.
have we ever noticed how witnesses are constantly being told that life is something that needs to be "endured", rather that "enjoyed"?.
life is always so tough, so hard, so difficult in "these last days".
"persecution and trials abound".
It messes with their minds in that A.) they miss out on all of the beauty in the world while having their pity party and B.) they absolve themselves of personal responsibility and live in perpetual denial of their own issues and that they can affect them if they want. It's a vicious cycle of not investing in this life therefore life sucks which only proves that this old system is dying and their deliverance is near, all the while it is largely self-induced.
some people like to believe in something others believe in nothing; so in what location did the substance that expanded into the time/space universe exist before the big bang?
where did the energy that caused the big band come from?
how did the substance that became the big bang change from being inert and sterile and come to life to having the properties and drive that it does?
@Fisherman -
I agree that it's hard to comprehend the origin of everything, the infinity vs nothing as you put it. Does either view correlate to a loving father that created it all and that is infinite in himself? If life is so important to him, and he loves to create in infinite terms (i.e. the universe), why isn't there life anywhere else that we can find? Shouldn't the universe be teeming with life, instead of nothing? What does the known universe speak to, vibrant intelligent life, or nothingness? Your OP got me thinking about this. Thanks.