@Pubsinger - Your concern about what can really happen is warranted. However, every exposure of who JWs really are helps. It helps other governments take note. It builds cases against them. Maybe more importantly, these videos wake people up. Round one helped me tremendously, and others as well, to leave the cult. If that is the only power it has, it was worth it.
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ARC Live Streaming site ?
by Gayle inwhat is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?
i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.
also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks inhttp://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
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Somehow other churches, "false religion" as JWs would call them, have managed to be so much more cooperative. Jehovah's Witnesses do little more than release a letter saying that victims don't have to face accusers. They're trying to get away with the bare minimum.
I don't know who the last guy was that questioned the Watchtower tools, but I loved his point. Are they going to wait until absolutely necessary to offer redress? He was looking for human compassion or empathy out of their robots, which is hard to find there or from their apologists here. They don't care about anything but legalities as a very legalistic organization, lacking basic humanity.
Did anyone else notice the accidental cutaway to Angus laughing at them? I loved that.
Those two guys that they put up were a train wreck, but it's hard to find good, well rounded people there. Mostly mindless, heartless automatons. I got so sick of the fake respect given to the court with "if I may", "with all due respect" , etc., over and over and over, all the while showing a complete lack of respect by not actually acting, waiting until the last minute to even look at things, trying to weasel out of redress, etc.
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks inhttp://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
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Fisherman, please fuck off, go die in a fire, whatever it takes, but stop trying to dominate every conversation with your twisted fucking garbled nonsense. You're a disgusting shill for a disgusting cult. Is that enough color for you?
This is serious business involving the ruination of people's lives, whether from child sexual abuse or simply your disgusting cult. GTFO.
Please just ghost the bastard everyone. Like his cult would do to you.
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The reality of "shunning" and character assasination highlighted at the Australian Royal Commission
by stuckinarut2 inonce again, the arc has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.. the "brothers" tried to state that it was the choice of the indiviual who steps away from the organization to shun them!
they actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!
then they tried to say that those who fade are not shunned!.
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Fuck 'em. They are nothing but lying manipulative sacks of cult indoctrination. It was disgusting to listen to them, much like the apologists we have here on the forum. Nothing but obfuscation and spin because they are all about appearance and don't care about substance. -
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QCS Telecom signs up with Allied Fiber
by StarTrekAngel ini don't recall seeing this come up after the document regarding qcs telecom.. leasing 288 miles of dark fiber is not cheap.
in fact, it borders in the crazy.. http://www.alliedfiber.com/news/press-releases/qcstelecom-signs-20-year-lease-agreement-with-allied-fiber/.
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I assume that they made the deal to allow them to pump out more indoctrination into their cult, which is by default nefarious.
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Looking forward to going to Memorial this year!
by kpop ini have some tricks to play.
i know it may sound childish but i feel that creating havoc and forcing the memorial to be postponed will be the highlight of the night!
wish me luck!.
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Don't be THAT apostate. It only makes us all look like douchebags. Let them have their Memorial in peace. You only prove their assertions and make them feel persecuted when you play the part that they would reserve for you as someone that is out.
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How many JW's believe to their last breath . .
by nicolaou ini can easily believe that thousands did all through the watchtowers glory years but especially after '95 the whole thing has been unravelling.
kidding yourself to maintain family relationships and social networks is *somewhat* understandable in life but on your deathbed?.
i think the demographic for jw's may actually get younger as time goes on.
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The saddest thing to me is the ex-JWs that still believe and defend the organization, or those that are exposed to TTATT and still believe.
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The Danger of Settlements
by Tech49 ini was pondering the recent influx of lawsuits against wt, specifically in regards to the child abuse cases (ie.
conti, fessler, lopez, etc).. in each of these, wt has settled for an "undisclosed" amount, assumed to be in the millions of dollars each.
i know there are many many more cases, subject for a different thread i'm sure.. i was reading something completely unrelated a while back that mentioned the dangers of settlement agreements for a large corporation or business (not just wt).
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Like I said earlier, JW defenders like Fisherman focus on legalities because they cannot defend Jehovah's Witnesses morally even by JWs own doctrine regarding reporting wrongdoing. I have to walk away because you disgust me just like your pedo pal organization. I hope the things you protect with glee are never visited upon your family. -
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The Danger of Settlements
by Tech49 ini was pondering the recent influx of lawsuits against wt, specifically in regards to the child abuse cases (ie.
conti, fessler, lopez, etc).. in each of these, wt has settled for an "undisclosed" amount, assumed to be in the millions of dollars each.
i know there are many many more cases, subject for a different thread i'm sure.. i was reading something completely unrelated a while back that mentioned the dangers of settlement agreements for a large corporation or business (not just wt).
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Richard, you asked what I believe and that's what I answered. I made no claim to speak the the legality, nor did you ask that. I do not know Australian law. Maybe the WT gets off as far as that goes for the past, I don't know. From what I understood the ARC wasn't so much about punishment for the past as it was establishing the culture of religions that concerned them so that they could make things better for the future.
I honestly don't care about the legalities unless somehow the WT is damaged monetarily. Nothing any legal system can do will get back the lives ruined due to their teachings and policies. They could win every legal case and still be a horrific paradise for pedophiles and immoral organization. Unless the legal system somehow shuts them down, which won't happen, it has no bearing on how truly awful they treated so many victims and they have pedophilia on their hands for allowing it to go unchecked.
Moral and legal issues do intertwine as well. Often legalities address moral issues as a basis, but morals aren't based in legalities. You can't separate them entirely.
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The Danger of Settlements
by Tech49 ini was pondering the recent influx of lawsuits against wt, specifically in regards to the child abuse cases (ie.
conti, fessler, lopez, etc).. in each of these, wt has settled for an "undisclosed" amount, assumed to be in the millions of dollars each.
i know there are many many more cases, subject for a different thread i'm sure.. i was reading something completely unrelated a while back that mentioned the dangers of settlement agreements for a large corporation or business (not just wt).
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I don't have lnowledge of every case in the ARC situation. If they knew though, which apparently they did or things wouldn't have been documented, then yes they should be responsible for not reporting, even as their own doctrine would have them do.