Posts by dubstepped

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My older brother has stopped his bible study

by pale.emperor in

good news people.

my older brother has abruptly stopped his bible study with the witnesses.

he was part-time shunning me during his study and his behavior was beginning to change into cult mode but he was thankfully woken up.

dubstepped

Hells yeah! That's awesome! Thanks Jehovah's lying Witnesses!

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I need help understanding my moms decision!

by Holzy86 in

first of all i'm not a jahovas witness, my mother is.

i've asked my mother for some help over the weekend for my sons birthday, i understand jw do not celebrate birthdays.. every year i take my son out for a treat day, this year he has asked me if he can bring friends too so i said i only have enough room for one but he has asked for two, so i said i will ask nanny if she will help out to take my other son in her car with my netphew and older sister, but as soon as i mentioned it was for a birthday treat she refused to help me.. i just need to know if jahovahs witnesses will refuse to help family out when asking for help, i feel i've asked and made sure all the people she will be giving a lift to that it is not there birthday.

his birthday has just happened to have fallen on the weekend when we would have been taking him because he is at school monday to friday.

dubstepped

You asked her to help facilitate a birthday party. She is opposed to birthday parties. What is hard to understand? You're trying to spin it into "she's jusr unwilling to help her grandkids" and conveniently leaving out the "celebrate a birthday " part.

Yes, pretty much all JWs would do the same. That's because they're in a cult that tells them what to do, what not to do, what to think, how to feel, etc.

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Were You Ever A True Believer?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i was raised in the religion and for the most part believed that my religion was truth.

i recognized some mistakes were occasionally made but felt that nobody is perfect.

then i smartened up and realized how dumb so many of the beliefs are....was there ever a time that you truly believed you had the "truth"?.

dubstepped

Absolutely. As a natural black and white thinker and a people pleaser (rule follower) I was primed as a child to be a great JW and I was. I bought in totally.

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How many years did you waste away in the Org?

by Tallon in

in my case; 27 years.

7 of which were as a ministerial serpent ... sorry, i mean 'servant' ;).

dubstepped

Parents became dubs when I was somewhere around 8-9, I think, and I disassociated at 38, so 30 years or so. My wife was 1 when her parents became dubs, and 35 when she disassociated, so 34 years or so.

Of course, even after your leave, all of the opportunities lost impact the rest of your life. It was the waste that just keeps on giving.

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River flowing from the garden of Eden

by joey jojo in

hey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.

a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.

how did it work pre-flood?

dubstepped

Because God. That's the answer to anything nonsensical.

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Pharaoh tries to kill all male babies - later Moses orders the very same thing!

by George One Time in

so many things that i just discoved about the bible.. .

so from the book my book of bible stories, we all know how little moses was saved from a cruel pharaoh.

of course the king of egypt was afraid that those cute little babies would endanger his empire eventually.

dubstepped

Your AVENGER is like a bad superhero that saves people here and there while killing animals and babies en masse while on the way. His morals are in contradiction to his own moral guidelines and are lesser than a good, though imperfect, human parent. Of course, you're a blind JW, so I don't expect you to be able to see or think for yourself, using that God given free will and brain.

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Pharaoh tries to kill all male babies - later Moses orders the very same thing!

by George One Time in

so many things that i just discoved about the bible.. .

so from the book my book of bible stories, we all know how little moses was saved from a cruel pharaoh.

of course the king of egypt was afraid that those cute little babies would endanger his empire eventually.

dubstepped

Lol, someone tried to preach at me last night about how God was just giving people of the nations a taste of their own medicine. Way to raise the bar and prove your ways are higher than theirs and your thoughts than their thoughts God!

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Another family needlessly torn apart

by Visitor1984 in

i'm feeling very angry tonight as i watched my mother in law end her relationship with my husband, her son, tonight.

we were happily inactive, enjoying a distant but decent relationship with my in laws until they saw some christmas decorations and everything changed.

i spent two hours getting drilled on whether my husband and i celebrate holidays, to be told that my laws won't socialize with us anymore.

dubstepped

I'm really sorry. It shows that they have lost all natural affection, which they accuse "the world " of doing. It also shows that as the ARC tried to point out, you can't just walk away. You can fade, but you can't hide, and are subject to their rules, their game, unless you disassociate.

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Parody of Song 113: "We're No Longer Witnesses!"

by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

being in "the truth" forever, i keep (frustratingly) finding myself humming kingdom songs unintentionally.

it frustrates me when i find myself doing it!.

so today i got this song in my head, and couldn't get it unstuck, so i decided to write alternate lyrics to it... when i get that tune in my head now, i'll have words that work!

dubstepped

Lmao, thanks for the bump stuckinarut! The OP is great!

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What's your degree of anti-JWness?

by Landy in

so, on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is absolutely pro-jw, 5 is neutral and 10 is youtubing nutjob apostate, where do you stand?.

i'm probably around a 6. i have the view that jws are a nothing marginal religion.

if i hadn't been brought up as one i doubt they would have ever entered my consciousness.. the reasons it's a 6 and not a 5 is that i have some concerns over their child baptism and safeguarding procedures, but i think it's down to them being a bit dim rather than any pro child abusing ethos.

dubstepped

Landy: When you start using terms like that (innocent children) you lose me. Can a child who's been the victim of abuse be anything other than innocent?
You've used the term for effect to bolster your argument. It's unnecessary.

Really, then you based your entire thread on such an "unnecessary" bolstering term that showed your true colors:

Landy: So, on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is absolutely pro-JW, 5 is neutral and 10 is youtubing nutjob apostate, where do you stand?

Why isn't a 1 an "absolutely nutjob pro-JW" but a 10 includes such terms as nutjob as a qualifier? Data-dog nailed you. I believe somewhere on here fisherman and Richard Oliver are having a compassion-less technicality orgy and your presence is likely requested. It shows a lot that you would nitpick at the terms used to compassionately describe children while inserting your own in other contexts. You really know what the important things are, don't you.

Just for the sake of answering the question, removing the word nutjob that was merely there to indicate Landy's own prejudices, I vacillate between a 7 and 9, most likely, depending on my mood that day and what has hit me. I have no plans to be an activist, i.e. a 10 and to go all in, but I like to help people that are trying to leave and I do hate the organization that I left some days.