Posts by dubstepped

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You Can Encourage An Inactive Christian!

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/april-2017-mwb/meeting-schedule-apr10-16/encourage-inactive-christian/.

this is part of the clam meeting this week.. how contradictory is it?.

first, they instruct people to avoid inactive ones and to shun them and to treat them the same as da'd or df'd ones, .

dubstepped

I don't think they ever made a blanket statement to shun inactive ones in the first place. They said to avoid inactive ones that lead an immoral life that would be disfellowshipped if they were in the congregation. People ran with that as though they said to shun all inactive ones. Inactive ones are not all equal in their eyes.

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Confused trying to understand JW GF or soon to be EX

by James87 in

i dont know where to start so why not at the beginning.

i was seeing this girl and we hit it off great chemistry.

it went from a physical to a deeper relationship.

dubstepped

She's a super damaged person in a cult. People here can't get their spouses out. People lose their entire families. Don't underestimate what you're up against. The cult alone is devastating. This girl will likely always be attracted to it. She's damaged and it offers denial and false hope that will be in the back of her mind until she gets healthy, and that's not likely with her current trajectory.

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Confused trying to understand JW GF or soon to be EX

by James87 in

i dont know where to start so why not at the beginning.

i was seeing this girl and we hit it off great chemistry.

it went from a physical to a deeper relationship.

dubstepped

I think it is easy to confuse wanting to save someone with loving them. If you take away your feelings about what she could be and focus on what she is, I think you'll see that you don't love her, you love a version of her that just isn't reality. You have invested a lot, which makes it hard to walk away from. Kind of like how she has an investment in the JWs that she struggles to fully walk away from. If you met her today and had a crystal ball that showed you this future you'd run, but you're in it now and rationalizing the future. You need to do a sunk cost analysis. Look at it with fresh eyes. You met her for the first time today. Would you pursue this. I doubt it.

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Go bags?

by punkofnice in

i heard recently that there was a talk given at the kh about having a 'go bag' ready because the big 'a' must be soooo close as evidenced by syria and the russian jobo thing.. does anyone know if this 'go bag' thing is substantiated in publications or just a local nut job being paranoid and attention seeking?.

i also wonder about this 'go bag' thing, apparently, you need to make sure your biscuits (that's cookies to my over the pond friends), are not out of date.

don't carry water, it's too heavy.. too many questions do i have.

dubstepped

What I liked was the way that the Borganization acted like they created the idea of go-bags in the first place. I remember people in congregations freaking out about them. My wife and I have one each. It took a few years but I put some together. It's not a bad idea and is endorsed by various governmental agencies. Where I live tornadoes are a possibility, and if disaster struck it would be nice to have some kind of supplies, in a backpack or otherwise. I don't like relying on anyone anyway, and like to camp and such, so it wasn't a waste. But I don't think it was ever an Armageddon preparedness situation other than what people ran with it, which shows the mentality of those that did so. I remember looking it up and seeing that it was a good idea in certain situations and a town was devastated north of us in a tornado, so I figured why not. I actually had fun putting it all together.

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Maddox v Integro USA, Inc, et al

by Richard Oliver in

i know that this is old but going through and posting about every lawsuit that i can find in this decade with watchtower either good or bad if it has not already been posted.

this lawsuit was brought in the federal district court for the eastern district of louisana.

it involves a family whose mother had died at a district convention in 2011. the mother, patsy, was descending stairs at the convention which was held at the mitchell center in mobile, alabama when she fell and was fatally injured.

dubstepped

I agree that it's an issue that the dubs are so broken up. It's a move to displace responsibility and funds in such a way that their liability is limited, and it is disgusting. They did all kinds of this in Australia from what I understand so that they don't have to pay for anything. It probably is legal though. It just shows that the dubs have no ethics and morals and only care about protecting that almighty dollar, their real savior. That is concerning, but nothing new. That isn't necessarily what the thread was about either. I get the issues with it though.

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Disfellowshipping decision to go before Canadian Supreme Court

by Simon in

high court will examine whether judicial review applies to membership decisions made by religious groups.

the supreme court of canada has agreed to hear an appeal involving a calgary man who was kicked out of his jehovah's witness church.. randy wall, a real estate agent was "disfellowshipped" from the highwood congregation for being drunk on two occasions and allegedly verbally abusing his wife.. as a result, he says his clients refused to do further business with him, so he argued his property and civil rights were affected.. after losing three internal church appeals of his expulsion, wall made an application with the court of queen's bench in calgary which ordered a hearing to first determine if there was jurisdiction for the court to hear the application.. decisions and appeals.

a judge decided the superior court did have jurisdiction to hear the application.. the church then appealed wall's decision to the alberta court of appeal, which upheld the court of queen's bench, affirming the court has jurisdiction to hear the matter.. one of the three appeal court judges dissented — arguing that congregations are private organizations akin to bridge clubs, whose decisions "are not enforceable promises and have limited, if any, impact outside its small circle.".

dubstepped

Ugh, any dub with a business will often quickly find out that brothers and sisters are the worst customers ever. I tried to stay away myself.

I'm glad to see this case go up the ladder. I think the guy will lose, but it exposes the policies of the JWs and ties up resources, so I'm happy regardless of the verdict.

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Maddox v Integro USA, Inc, et al

by Richard Oliver in

i know that this is old but going through and posting about every lawsuit that i can find in this decade with watchtower either good or bad if it has not already been posted.

this lawsuit was brought in the federal district court for the eastern district of louisana.

it involves a family whose mother had died at a district convention in 2011. the mother, patsy, was descending stairs at the convention which was held at the mitchell center in mobile, alabama when she fell and was fatally injured.

dubstepped

And neither the Mitchells nor the WT should be held liable for someone falling down the stairs unless something was done wrong to cause it. People today just look for deep pockets and hope to get a payoff for unfortunate events. Unless someone pushed her or a step gave way or somehow they caused her to fall there's nobody at fault but the person that fell, and it unfortunately had catastrophic results.

I'm all for tying the WT up in any way possible and wasting their resources, but this one is a stretch.

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Maddox v Integro USA, Inc, et al

by Richard Oliver in

i know that this is old but going through and posting about every lawsuit that i can find in this decade with watchtower either good or bad if it has not already been posted.

this lawsuit was brought in the federal district court for the eastern district of louisana.

it involves a family whose mother had died at a district convention in 2011. the mother, patsy, was descending stairs at the convention which was held at the mitchell center in mobile, alabama when she fell and was fatally injured.

dubstepped

Honestly if there was nothing wrong with the steps then there's no reason for a lawsuit. That one isn't hard. She fell, it's tragic, but that doesn't mean someone has to pay.

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Does God really care about mankind?

by Sour Grapes in

i am dying of cancer.

yesterday i asked my full blown jw wife if she could snap her fingers and make me well would she do so?.

she replied, "yes.