Posts by dubstepped

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Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

by John Davis in

i wanted to get people's opinion on something.

how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.

there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.

dubstepped

It is absolutely the right thing to do Richard Oliver.

Why do you seek so hard to protect your cult?

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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall

by pale.emperor in

has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.

@problemaddict - I *think* they did encourage people to shun non-disfellowshipped people that are living "immoral" lifestyles. In other words, there are lots of people that have faded but that lead lives that appear basically "good" from a JW perspective and you don't need to shun them. However, if a person is leading a life that would get them dfed should they go to meetings, then you should shun them. People have taken that admonishment and created "shun non-dfed" people out of it, taking it farther than what was really said. I remember discussions about it back then.

Let's face it though, Jehovah's Witnesses shun anyone they want anytime they want for any reason that they want. Plenty of people never even got baptized and are shunned, people faded or are just inactive and are shunned by family and friends, they are one shun happy organization whether or not it is all officially sanctioned.

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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

by whatisthis12 in

i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

dubstepped

The religion comes first. The most important bond is between the parent and Jehovah because Jehovah holds the keys to their very life. So when kids come around there's something in between them, often from day one. I hope that helps you see how it works. It's messed up, I totally agree. Many people that are attracted to the cult or raised in it have narcissistic tendencies.

I think you've already been given healthy boundaries to consider here as to what is on him, his parents, and you. I hope it works out for you both.

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I was impressed by part of today's symposium entitled ' Safeguard your children from what is evil'

by UnshackleTheChains in

well i have to give credit where credit is due.

it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.

the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".

dubstepped

7I have to give credit where credit is due. After the government caught my friend defrauding the government through tax evasion and froze his assets, taking control of them, he made it right by letting them keep the portion of money that had been rightfully due.

While I'm happy for the kids and hope this helps them truly, screw Watchtower and Richard Oliver under a different name (let the reader use discernment). That is all.

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Worldly people

by Akid48 in

as i have come to see i have way more friends at school than my kingdom hall but if i get asked about school and i say something about my friends or ask to hang out with my friends to my aunt she gives me a talk about not to like worldly people to much.. for example i ask to go to my friends house (that is a girl)i have known her from 1st grade and my aunt gets mad at me saying what if she says i raped her or something but she lets me go by my self with brothers to hang out if i want but theres a chance i will get raped there to.. read my other posts to understand my story .

akid69.

dubstepped

Substitute the word "black" or "white" or "Asian" or whatever for "worldly" and your aunt would think that's messed up, but she's just prejudiced for different reasons. It's ugly, isn't it? The people I've met on the outside are FAR better than those on the inside.

As an aside, a girl at my Hall growing up was pregnant. She claimed that a Hispanic raped her to the elders, who then pretty much told everyone in the congregation so we knew what was up when the baby bump showed. Because, of course, that was everyone's business.

Anyway, she's now married to him with several kiddos. Turns out she was secretly dating the guy and cried rape to stay in the organization. She was eventually disfellowshipped but she came back to the cult.

So yeah, those with glass houses and all of that.

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What masters degree would a Jw university offer?

by Chook in

masters degree in panda marketing..

dubstepped

Narcissism for Dummies

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Question for those who went to the RC

by joe134cd in

i'm just curious with all the happy clapping that is now going on with the singing at the conventions.

what has been the reaction to it with the r&f.

has anyone ever commented that it reminded them of a pentecostal revival meeting.

dubstepped

I guess going with video boards for the lyrics is step one in loosening up the hands for clapping and the body to let the spirit flow. I'm sure they had parts on the meeting where they were up front about this rather than just manipulating the masses, right?

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Our new yearly "regional convention"

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

so unstuck and myself have decided to attend a different kind of yearly convention!.

it should be fun!.

just think, anything that helps us using our "powers of reason" (romans 12:1) is approved by the bible isn't it??

dubstepped

Wow, that sounds fun. Enjoy your new convention together!

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My mums dying she refuses blood transfusion...the horror.

by Witness 007 in

mum has a mild form of lukeimia if she took blood like normal people she could live to be 100. but no, anointed sisters dont compromise jehovah wont allow it.

so here i am moving to sydney for one month going to hospital everyday putting my life on hold to watch my mother die slowly.

watching her gasp for air, struggle to breath.

dubstepped

I can really feel your pain in the words of your original post, and I'm very sorry that you're facing this. I wish there were some wise words to make you feel better, but all I can muster is to let you know that people here care and that we're all sorry about this. It was a fear that so many of us had, or still have.

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I need some help

by Akid48 in

well let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..

dubstepped

akid, one thing you have to realize is that the people teaching this to you like your aunt have been lie to also, they just can't see it. Try to have some compassion for them. You are clearly a smart young man to catch on to this. Those other people aren't stupid, they've just gone so far down a path and have so much to lose that they are blind to the actual truth. You haven't gone down that path yet, so it isn't as big of a deal to you.

Myself, I was 38 when I woke up to what was really going on. Some wake up very late in life.

Your skills at asking questions will serve you well in life. Be curious, but also be willing to challenge things to see if they hold up. Challenge yourself too. Sometimes it is uncomfortable to do so. It hurt me a lot to challenge my JW beliefs that I held for so long. But it was worth it for me. I'm not sure that everyone has what it takes to do that. Humans are very complicated.