Posts by dubstepped

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In theory, can one be disfellowshipped for attempted suicide?

by Saename in

so i was recently reading the reasons for disfellowshipping as listed in shepherd the flock of god.

the handbook is available online here: https://thetruthofjehowaswittness.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/jehovas-vitner.pdf.. on page 59, point #4, it lists attempted suicide as a reason for disfellowshipping.

has it ever been removed?

dubstepped

I either heard a podcast story or read an account that spoke of a posthumously. If they can be that monstrous, why not do it for an unsuccessful attempt. The cult often lacks any heart, and if a JC is formed, anything can be on the table.

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A woman without a voice

by SunnyOne026 in

this is my story in a nut-shell.

i hope some of you can relate.

if you can..i would love to hear from you.. i have been crushed and heartbroken more times than i can recount by a religion that claims to be based totally on love and mercy and most of that harm has come from the so called "shepherds" who or are supposed to lovingly take the stray lambs in their arms and lead them gently back to safety.

dubstepped

Whoa, that's quite a story and I'm sending internet (((hugs))) your way. I'm so mad for you, for all the years lost and the tears shed.

My story is found at thisjwlife.com and my podcast called thisjwlife. So far it's helped people heal, so maybe listen to my 9 part story and it can help you.

You can also go to shunnedpodcast.com and that podcast is just called "shunned" and listen to the stories of others told one atva time.

You aren't alone. We've all been broken by that religion but many have come through it and found true happiness. You can too. You just have to give up on the notion that you can control what happens and start doing humble research, ready to accept whatever you find, even if it goes against everything you've held dear.

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Episode Three - Emily is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses - Is now live!

by dubstepped in

there are many ways to be shunned as one of jehovah’s witnesses.

emily’s story highlights a path that many take, a path of personal growth with stumbles along the way that result in ostracism, a path that deviates from the prescribed path of a cult that requires everyone to walk the same or face the consequences.

this story shines a light on the spectrum of the jw experience.. you can subscribe on itunes (apple podcasts), google play, or wherever you get your podcasts.. you can also stream directly from my website, and leave comments of support for emily and see what song she picked as one that signified her journey at:.

dubstepped

Can't imagine why someone negged you for that one, unless it was a scrolling mistake. Hope you enjoy, or at least find something that resonates with you. She was fun to interview, and although she didn't think her story was worthy of telling and that it would resonate, I think it will a lot. People lived all kinds of stories in the cult. My family was very much uber JWs, but not all were, and people's families came from all types of backgrounds and went in all types of directions even in the cult.

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Episode Three - Emily is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses - Is now live!

by dubstepped in

there are many ways to be shunned as one of jehovah’s witnesses.

emily’s story highlights a path that many take, a path of personal growth with stumbles along the way that result in ostracism, a path that deviates from the prescribed path of a cult that requires everyone to walk the same or face the consequences.

this story shines a light on the spectrum of the jw experience.. you can subscribe on itunes (apple podcasts), google play, or wherever you get your podcasts.. you can also stream directly from my website, and leave comments of support for emily and see what song she picked as one that signified her journey at:.

dubstepped

There are many ways to be shunned as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Emily’s story highlights a path that many take, a path of personal growth with stumbles along the way that result in ostracism, a path that deviates from the prescribed path of a cult that requires everyone to walk the same or face the consequences. This story shines a light on the spectrum of the JW experience.

You can subscribe on iTunes (Apple Podcasts), Google Play, or wherever you get your podcasts.

You can also stream directly from my website, and leave comments of support for Emily and see what song she picked as one that signified her journey at:

http://shunnedpodcast.com/episode-three-emily-is-shunned-by-jehovahs-witnesses/

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California Tubbs Fire photos you might not find find anywhere else...

by La Capra in

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friends

to quote someone near and dear: they should have built the whole kingdom hall out of the same thing they built the signs.... i had to wait nearly two weeks to get into the neighborhood to get these pictures for your voyeuristic interests...this is peanuts compared to the over 5,000 homes that were destroyed (this number includes individual units in large apartment complexes that were completely razed).

those pictures and videos are available in the media.

wine country is a community devastated..

dubstepped

Should have built the cult center there out of "fire resistant materials" like that old talk outline. Very representative of the organization as a whole, including cult members. Crumbles under heat, hollow inside, all the while things that don't matter like that stupid logo stand tall, signifying nothing.

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Witness Royalty and the last day at the "Towers"

by Lynnie in

my uber elder cousin and his wife got the "privilege" of having one last "toast" of wine at the rooftop garden at the towers in nyc since the jw's are vacating to warwick.

his oldest daughter and son in law are quite high up in the inner circle so they get invited to all the "inner circle" activities.

even though they aren't supposed to toast to anything it was pretty darn close.

dubstepped

Hey Fishy, since you know so much and everything you say is truth in reply to what eveyone else says, and since you like to dominate other people's threads with your blather, I have a challenge for you.

Why don't you start a thread where you can, in one cohesive space, tell your story. I challenge you to do so. Where did you come from? Where have you been in the organization? What did you make of what you saw? Where are you now in life, in your spiritual walk, officially within the organization? Why have you been here for 14 years? What do you have to hide?

Other people are vulnerable here and put their lives out there. If you want credibility, instead of jumping around scrutinizing things you don't like that others say and trying to dominate and obfuscate, build trust by putting your own story out there. Man up and get vulnerable and show courage. Be willing to give an answer to anyone that should ask it of you. Who are you, other than someone that defends the cult at every turn, including trying to derail talks of child sexual abuse in the group. Surely there is more to you than that. You post some things that allude to interesting travels. Share brother Fishy, do share.

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Facing My Mortality And Becoming A Donor

by pale.emperor in

this thread is quite morbid so i apologize in advance.. a few days ago i was having a conversation with my girlfriend in which she mentioned in passing that she's signed up to donate her organs after her death.

i was quite surprised because she mentioned it like it was no big deal.

i asked her which organs.

dubstepped

Good for you. I have a friend that works for the local "donate life" group and have always seen her Facebook posts but it's just now hitting me too.

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Faced with the reality of mortality

by stuckinarut2 in

how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.

most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.

we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.

dubstepped

So I was just thinking about this, as I do far too much, and was struck by something that I often say to people when they lose someone. If it hurts that means you had something worth losing. When my dad died it didn't hurt much. I probably mourned more for the dad I never had than the one I did.

So if I flip that around, I guess maybe if it hurts more to leave this planet it's because your life was worth something. If it didn't mean much and was one of resignation, then maybe it doesn't hurt as much to leave unless one has regrets. I have too much to do and experience to leave. I want my life to mean something now that I can see clearly, and it devastates me on a level to know that will end someday.

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Faced with the reality of mortality

by stuckinarut2 in

how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.

most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.

we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.

dubstepped

I see things kind of the opposite of punkofnice above. For me my brevity here on this earth imbues MORE meaning into this life that I have. This is it and I want to make the most of it.

Additionally, I see life today as that magic I always looked for in the promised future. The odds that the sperm and egg made me, that there was a successful birth, that I made it out of childhood, didn't kill myself in a car wreck when first driving, that I didn't commit suicide when I wanted to in 2008 because of this awful cult, that I made it to 40, etc.... are the things I try to focus on. They keep me grounded and present. It's hard to be grateful and miserable at the same time.

And yet I still struggle with that eventual goodbye that will come.

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matured mentally

by Akid48 in

i dont know if any one else is feeling this but after waking up i feel like i matured mentally etc.. im only 13 maybe its just me but i wanted to know if any had this feeling just a quick post..

dubstepped

Absolutely, and for you this young to see things clearly while surrounded by delusional adults, you've got to feel so much more mature. Good for you.