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  Let J.W.'s keep their "two-witnesses" rule..................

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ................for all their sinners - but make it mandatory that all j.w.

  alleged criminals are promptly reported to the relevant authorities.

  problem solved.

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  The government doesn't even have to make reporting mandatory. JWs could do it themselves organizationally if they cared about children.
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  Leaked - Video tape inside Watchtower HQ of protest Nov 5, 2017

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i saw this on jw reddit and thought, okay that will just be one of the protesters videotaping near their security entrance but it's really from inside the hq's.

  i doubt the org.

  will be happy that this was taped and leaked.https://rutube.ru/video/2dbc8185062524a41ed8c9e2117ca39d/.

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  dubstepped

  Even if it's just security footage, it got out somehow. Pretty cool. I wonder who leaked it.
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  Let J.W.'s keep their "two-witnesses" rule..................

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ................for all their sinners - but make it mandatory that all j.w.

  alleged criminals are promptly reported to the relevant authorities.

  problem solved.

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  I've been saying this over and over. Attacking the 2 witness rule is the wrong strategy. Criminal matters should be taken to the proper authorities, then the 2 witness rule doesn't really matter. It seems so simple to me but everyone is hung up on the rule. They can argue it Biblically and honestly they can't just take one person's word over another (in most cases), but actual trained investigators can figure out things that untrained men led by "holy spirit" (lol) can't seem to do. It's almost as though they aren't led by anything but their own ignorance, imagine that. Turn it over to the proper authorities and this all goes away. Watchtower is just to stupid and narcissistic to do so. They don't care about kids, they care about control.
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  Does This Site Ever Change The Mind of “Spiritual “ Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you think witnesses who come here believe that in fact they don’t have the truth, after all.

  or are we just preaching to the choir?

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  I believed JWs had the truth when I came here. I came here with doubts about certain things, primarily issues with the CULTure, but this site was integral to helping me break down the truth about "the truth". You all spoke to me when I needed it most. I was a firm believer in the doctrine on my first visit, all nervous and shaky, with my wife's buy in on my visit.
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  Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according to the watchtower:.

  who received the ransom payment?.

  why did the ransomer need to be paid?.

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  Adam and Eve were 2 people that sinned. How could only one person be sacrificed to balance the scales?
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  January 2018 Message of Judgment - What Is This?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.

  i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.

  help a former brother out.

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  How are these numbnuts going to talk at doors when they just hide behind carts and point to jw.borg now? I doubt most can speak with any real ability to reason anymore. The Borg makes some weird decisions in their vascillation on how to carry themselves.
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  January 2018 Message of Judgment - What Is This?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.

  i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.

  help a former brother out.

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  Ah man, I was hoping for another 1975. Come on governing body, can't we at least get Tight Pants Tony to stick his neck out there and say something stupid? I was hoping this was a thing.

  Thanks for ruining my early Christmas present PE ya grinch, lol.
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  January 2018 Message of Judgment - What Is This?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.

  i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.

  help a former brother out.

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  I've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work. I saw someone on Reddit in July saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the JW message, and I've now seen two references to this in the past week. Help a former brother out. Anyone got any hard info on this? Are the magazines out yet for January?
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  I'm coming back to the forum after 10 months, and new challenges...

  by Mandrake in

  1. social
  2. family

  i haven't been here for about 10 months and just looked over some topics to update myself, well i came back for a very particular reason... my family was, father, mother, sister and i... the split up (4 years ago), only my father remained jw, my sister left but lives with him, and i've been living by myselft over the last months sharing an apartment with my girlfriend (worldly) an his brother (worldly) (we are a "modern family" hahahaha).... so the relation with my father have been in many different phases the last 4 years, having in mind that he cheated my mom with her best friend (woman) within the congregation an married her just few months ago... so today it's my birthday and i called dad and told him that i had a great time anyway and that to be "even more pagan" i set up my christmas tree today.... he had never questioned me for dating and living with my current girfriend nor tried to "bring me back to the congregation", but he replied to me: "hey, talking about being a pagan, i'm not confortable with things now because i want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now df, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them da-ing so we can share more?".

  i don't know what to do, i really mean what i wrote in my d.a.

  letter, i needed to vent what i think of the borg now, i'm no way taking it back, those are like my luther's theses ... i can't believe my father divorced my mother on no biblical ground, continued dating her best jw friend, and 3 years later they got married and are a happy respectable "christian" couple... and now he suddendly is not confortable with me because i sent a letter to the elders telling them i no longer believed the same shit they do... my sister simply stopped attending meetings and dated worldly boys, celebrate xmas, birthdays and stuff, but with me is different just because i have a clearer idea of who i really am and i'm trying to live by that.. i thinks this whole thing is unfair, he is totally blackmailing me, it's been years to get to this friendly level with my father, and now he is adding this awful pressure.

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  Just because 2 people had sex and you happened to be the product of it once doesn't mean you owe them anything. He doesn't sound like a great guy from what you've said, though he may be outside of this particular discussion. Humans pine away for the love of parents that are sometimes very broken and toxic. At some point you may determine that he is such and in my view you don't owe them. Move on. In this case, don't let him buy you monetarily. Don't let him extort you. None of this sounds particularly healthy. He seems narcissistic.
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  Death of a last Grandparent

  by ScottyRex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  still read this forum from time to time, and a long time member originally since early 2000's.

  recently lost my last surviving grandparent, my great and wonderful nan.

  what a flood of emotions that released!

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  Sorry for your loss. Love her "well that's bullshit" fire, lol. Thanks for sharing a little of her with us. They say in some eastern cuture that a person dies twice. Once when they physically die, the second time when their name is no longer mentioned. Keep her alive through story.