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  Should I stay or should I go?

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  hello everyone, i haven't posted anything on here for a while and today i just really felt like i needed to get my thoughts together.

  (if you don't know me please read some of my previous posts).

  so pretty much not much has changed in my life, i'm still living with my parents and going to all the meetings and service.

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  You know my advice will be to move. The cult bought your parents with promises of better things and look how it turned out. Like jp said above, one of the worst things we can do is to not be true to ourself. If your parent's support depends on blackmailing you to go do dub stuff, then your parents are showing how little they really care, unfortunately.

  To thine own self be true. Your depression says it all. Get out and go be happy. You want to see how much your parents love you? Do what YOU want and you'll see that your parents are all about themselves, not you. It hurts. It sucks. But far too often in the cult it's true. If you lose them you will have to accept that fate as it's up to them. You have to be you and let them be them.

  I totally disagree with posts telling you to suck it up because your parents give you material things while ignoring who you are and how you feel. Saying that you have it good at home because you have material things while you cry every day is mind blowing. Your soul is being crushed but hey, you've got an iPhone. Yuck. Life is about more than things.
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  Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)

  by rulehayl in

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  2. friends

  hi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.

  my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.

  she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.

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  A man with an experience is not at the mercy of a man with an opinion. Piss off rulehayl. You speak of that which you do not know. Happy culting. You get what you deserve.
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  Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)

  by rulehayl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.

  my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.

  she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.

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  Beware. Merely having AN answer for nearly everything in one tidy package doesn't mean it is THE answer. Additionally, answers like "we need to wait on Jehovah" or that are written in publications with weasel words like "evidently" or "likely" are not answers at all.

  Humans have a desire for certainty and structure. It makes us feel comfortable. Unfortunately controlling people or groups that display narcissistic traits often provide those things and suck in innocent victims. An abuser never shows their hand at first, they lure you in with charm and slowly disrobe you of your armor until you're naked with no place to go and you then need them.

  Please research cult methodology such as the FOG (fear obligation guilt) and the BITE (behavior information thought emotional control) models. You're not just talking to people here that aren't knowledgeable, we've been where you are. Many of us were elders, ministerial servants, pioneers, parents that taught this to their children, etc. We've been around this block. You'd be a fool to discount what people here have to say. I hope you're not too far in to listen.

  Speaking of listening, I invite you to listen to my 9 part podcadt series called "This JW Life" on iTunes or Google Play or just go to thisjwlife.com and stream them directly. You will see what you're not being told or shown now. If you're going to commit to this religion you should know what others that were in it have gone through. You wouldn't date a person and ignore their past and then marry them. You're being given chances here to listen to the realities of experiences with this organization. Ignore at your own peril.
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  Let J.W.'s keep their "two-witnesses" rule..................

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ................for all their sinners - but make it mandatory that all j.w.

  alleged criminals are promptly reported to the relevant authorities.

  problem solved.

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  The government doesn't even have to make reporting mandatory. JWs could do it themselves organizationally if they cared about children.
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  Leaked - Video tape inside Watchtower HQ of protest Nov 5, 2017

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i saw this on jw reddit and thought, okay that will just be one of the protesters videotaping near their security entrance but it's really from inside the hq's.

  i doubt the org.

  will be happy that this was taped and leaked.https://rutube.ru/video/2dbc8185062524a41ed8c9e2117ca39d/.

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  Even if it's just security footage, it got out somehow. Pretty cool. I wonder who leaked it.
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  Let J.W.'s keep their "two-witnesses" rule..................

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ................for all their sinners - but make it mandatory that all j.w.

  alleged criminals are promptly reported to the relevant authorities.

  problem solved.

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  I've been saying this over and over. Attacking the 2 witness rule is the wrong strategy. Criminal matters should be taken to the proper authorities, then the 2 witness rule doesn't really matter. It seems so simple to me but everyone is hung up on the rule. They can argue it Biblically and honestly they can't just take one person's word over another (in most cases), but actual trained investigators can figure out things that untrained men led by "holy spirit" (lol) can't seem to do. It's almost as though they aren't led by anything but their own ignorance, imagine that. Turn it over to the proper authorities and this all goes away. Watchtower is just to stupid and narcissistic to do so. They don't care about kids, they care about control.
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  Does This Site Ever Change The Mind of “Spiritual “ Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you think witnesses who come here believe that in fact they don’t have the truth, after all.

  or are we just preaching to the choir?

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  I believed JWs had the truth when I came here. I came here with doubts about certain things, primarily issues with the CULTure, but this site was integral to helping me break down the truth about "the truth". You all spoke to me when I needed it most. I was a firm believer in the doctrine on my first visit, all nervous and shaky, with my wife's buy in on my visit.
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  Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according to the watchtower:.

  who received the ransom payment?.

  why did the ransomer need to be paid?.

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  Adam and Eve were 2 people that sinned. How could only one person be sacrificed to balance the scales?
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  January 2018 Message of Judgment - What Is This?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.

  i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.

  help a former brother out.

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  How are these numbnuts going to talk at doors when they just hide behind carts and point to jw.borg now? I doubt most can speak with any real ability to reason anymore. The Borg makes some weird decisions in their vascillation on how to carry themselves.
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  January 2018 Message of Judgment - What Is This?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.

  i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.

  help a former brother out.

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  Ah man, I was hoping for another 1975. Come on governing body, can't we at least get Tight Pants Tony to stick his neck out there and say something stupid? I was hoping this was a thing.

  Thanks for ruining my early Christmas present PE ya grinch, lol.