So I was interviewing a guy for a podcast episode today and he went and saw his grandmother over Christmas to gather some history. He wasn't raised a JW but it turns out his family was actually opposed to the JWs because they went all the way back to Russell. According to him (from her stories), they refused to follow Rutherford and that's where the split took place. But before that he said that Russell's followers had photos of him in their homes (kinda culty) and that many sold their earthly possessions and lived in some commune in British Columbia.
Anybody else heard of this? I'm trying to research this commune or whatever it may have been. Sounds interesting, and admittedly the history of all of this still escapes me on many levels I'm sure, things I just don't know.
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Russell's followers in British Columbia?
by dubstepped inso i was interviewing a guy for a podcast episode today and he went and saw his grandmother over christmas to gather some history.
he wasn't raised a jw but it turns out his family was actually opposed to the jws because they went all the way back to russell.
according to him (from her stories), they refused to follow rutherford and that's where the split took place.
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Upon learning of a terminal illness would you return to being a JW to appease your family?
by NVR2L8 inthis is an hypothetical question...i am doing well.
but i was thinking about how my jw family, grandchildren and all will feel when their inactive grandfather dies with no hope of being reunited in paradise.
of course there would be immediate rejoicing if i came back to the "truth" and a surge of conditional love from the "friends".
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dubstepped
Why lie to your family right at the end? Would that make a person feel better somehow? No, I wouldn't return to be a JW for any reason.
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Need to vent. I am thinking of leaving my wife.
by goingthruthemotions ini am so sick of this cult, this religion has such a grip on her.
since i left in 2014, things just are getting progressively worse.
and she it's just getting deeper and deeper.
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dubstepped
Can you be yourself in this relationship? If you can't, you need to express that and see how it goes. If she can't accept you for who you are and you're stuck walking on eggshells among a JW maybe it's time to leave. A friend of mine came to me talking about something similar. He tried so hard but the cult dominated his marriage still, and he left after 20 years or so. It was hard to tell his kids. But the sense of relief and freedom was immeasurable and he came back later lamenting why he took so long to do it.
Only you can decide where you are. Not us. I think holding you to percentages is silly. If the 15% of the time it was miserable she was hitting you we'd all tell you to leave. So percentages don't matter. What are you putting up with? What is she putting up with? What happens if you're authentically you? You say that you don't think she cares if the marriage falls apart. Why do you say that? Be you. Let her be her. If that isn't tenable, and often it is the JW that can't abide by the ex-JW being themselves, then you have to decide if that is worth enduring more of for whatever payoff you see.
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Greta Thunberg...what’s your view of her?
by minimus inshe certainly is passionate about climate change.
🤔.
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I think she's perfect as a pawn in someone else's game. She's got Asperger's so she's likely obsessed with this topic (they tend to get fixated on things) but because she's got a mental illness of sorts she's now free from criticism in the politically correct mind. She's untouchable. Any criticism will be seen as making fun of her illness. It's perfect to draw people in. She's also a child so that makes her untouchable to many.
I see her like AOC. Someone chose her to fit a role, literally from what I read or heard somewhere. She's a young woman of color and certain people will love anything she says, no matter how stupid, simply for those facts, in groups that celebrate those qualifications over any other.
The world we live in is weird.
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Does anyone remember?
by dubstepped inso back when the borganization took over the congregations and their money when "forgiving" the loans for the mortgages, i seem to remember there was a congregation that stood up to them.
it didn't work, of course, but they caused quite a stir.
does anyone remember what congregation it was or any details where i could search and find more about it on here?
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Wow, I had never heard of the incident in Bonham Texas. Cool. Thanks for the info.
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Does anyone remember?
by dubstepped inso back when the borganization took over the congregations and their money when "forgiving" the loans for the mortgages, i seem to remember there was a congregation that stood up to them.
it didn't work, of course, but they caused quite a stir.
does anyone remember what congregation it was or any details where i could search and find more about it on here?
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Thanks peoples! My friend found it on his own somewhere with the court documents. He just let me know and I came here to let you know and you already let me know. :)
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Does anyone remember?
by dubstepped inso back when the borganization took over the congregations and their money when "forgiving" the loans for the mortgages, i seem to remember there was a congregation that stood up to them.
it didn't work, of course, but they caused quite a stir.
does anyone remember what congregation it was or any details where i could search and find more about it on here?
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So back when the Borganization took over the congregations and their money when "forgiving" the loans for the mortgages, I seem to remember there was a congregation that stood up to them. It didn't work, of course, but they caused quite a stir. Does anyone remember what congregation it was or any details where I could search and find more about it on here? I've tried to find some of the discussions but I'm not great at searching on here and can't remember any terms specific enough to locate it. I did some searches but could have done that forever and never probably would have found it with the generic terms I had in mind. I can't remember enough specifics.
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'Experiences(tm)'! Made up or totally true??
by punkofnice inat one assembly(tm), i was asked to relate an 'experience(tm)' which i did.
however, during rehearsals, the geezer in charge elder or co or some such title, told me that i shouldn't tell it the way it was.
i did a 're-enactment(tm)' with another 'brother(tm)'.
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Mine were changed by circuit overseers to make them "more encouraging", essentially to embellish them so they sounded more grand. Whether it was a part where I gave a personal experience, where I played a friend and it was supposed to be his experience, or whether I was giving my goals from the platform, none were ever good enough on their own merits without their manipulation of what I was to say.
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"Get Over It!"
by The Bethelite inthis is what my children tell me... get over the whole jehovah's witness thing!
yes, they tell me they have gotten over the whole thing and they tell me that and i need to also.
my exgirl friend who was raised as a jw also has said the same thing.. my children say they got over it, however they are quick to point out how messed up their lives are now because of no college education and other missed opportunities.
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Some people don't get it because they have nothing to compare it to.
When exjws are dismissive I find that it's often projection. They tell you to "get over it" because they totally aren't dealing with it and when you mention it this makes them look at something that hurts them. They're just trying to shove it down, they aren't processing it or working through it. They don't want to because it hurts, so they don't like you doing it.
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Make Shunning A Hate Crime
by Lost in the fog inthe humanist organisation in the uk wants to protect non-religious people who leave their church/religion from being punished for doing so.
they want the religious hate crime legislation in the uk to be extended to people who are not religious.
i hope they will succeed.
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I'm not sure if I'm in favor it it being criminal but I certainly don't think that organizations like Jehovah's Witnesses that promote it from the top down should be given charitable status.