Posts by noko59

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Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

noko59

No need to, at least yet I take it. Do you think I speak for God? His son is the one for that.

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Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

noko59

I think Genesis 10:5 answers your question there. The children of the parents spoke the same tongue. Also in short the plans of Babel kinda fell apart in the end.

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what do you read at Matthew 27:52,53 ?

by evergreen in

reading my bible daily ,i am enjoying what i read, especially not having to constantly refer to wt literature all the time .but simply reading what is in black and white in the holy scriptures.. i came across this portion of scripture at matthew 27:52,53 .

and the memorial tombs were opened and many bodies of the holy ones that had fallen asleep were raised up,(and persons,coming out from among the memorial tombs after his being raised up,entered into the holy city,)and they became visible to many people.. two things that come to my mind from this portion of scripture.

1/ dead people are raised ie holy ones.. the society says that these were bodies that became visible that fell out from the tombs because of the earthquake ??.

noko59

Paul writtings:

1th 4:15	For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep.

1th 4:16	For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first;

1th 4:17	then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

To me this reflects more about those dead in Christ will be resurrected. Yet king David reflects that his Lord is Christ in Psalm 110

Ps 110:1	Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Ps 110:2	Jehovah will send forth the rod of thy strength out of Zion: Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

Ps 110:3	Thy people offer themselves willingly In the day of thy power, in holy array: Out of the womb of the morning Thou hast the dew of thy youth.

Ps 110:4	Jehovah hath sworn, and will not repent: Thou art a priest for ever After the order of Melchizedek.

So is this saying that those that died before Christ can also have died with Christ?

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Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

noko59

Why yes, remember this was a totally new thing so to speak. The slave drivers later knew what it took to force someone into complying and had centuries to figure it out. Now if the new languages could get along so well then why would they split to all of the earth and not just locally? How about a total collaspe of the command structure of the city where people ended up banding together due to their language. I guess I could conjecture all night and that is not the point. It became obvious to most folks then that populating the earth was probably the more prudent thing to do I take it ;).

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Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

noko59

Why sure, in short Nimrod was the founder of Babel or Babylon who's name means opposer to Jehovah. Those who follow him would also oppose Jehovah or be mislead into it. The city being built which I take was forced upon some of the people, since once the language was confused the work did stop and the different families did split to the far reaches of the earth, as in "lets get out of dodge while we can". In a way it was deliverance from pure slavery to Nimrod and allowed those who where with Jehovah to be left alone and to show their true heart and inclination.

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Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

noko59

So in your own words you judge God in the Bible as an Asshole if the Bible is true? Correct? I would dissagree with the message the Bible gives with your witnessing of it. Also didn't you put your own interpretations into what you read and then gave your belief of it? Like so many others that you claim do? Consider the Bible like a mirror reflecting back your heart, building bricks on top of another isn't the story at hand.

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Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

noko59

Well if that story is indeed a myth, then what other stories in the Bible are just myths? If the foundation faulters doesn't the building collapse? Is the Bible a collection of writtings truthfully representing God's interactions with mankind or is it just a fable? Is it partially true? Mostly true or what? Didn't Jesus read and quoted from the bible or the scriptures? Used them? As recorded by the Bible Jesus says "Before Abraham came into existence, I have been". John 8:58. So if the scriptures was really corrupted and a myth wouldn't Jesus know that and say so? That wasn't the case.

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Can someone explain to me the story of the tower of Babel?

by tippysock in

in genisis 11:6 jehovah appears to be worried that mankind will be able to do anything they desire.

did jehovah scatter men and use different languages as a controlling measure to make us dependent on him?

what happened to freewill?

noko59

Paul writtings reflects the almighty nature as this:

For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all chruches of the saints. 1Cor 14:33

Seems a bit contrasting from Genesis does it not? Then again who is God of this world? The US in chapter 1 of Genesis and Jehovah in chapter 2 is also reveiling.

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Raphael and Jesus

by peacefulpete in

randel helms in gospel fictions has surmised that the story of jesus' appearance to mary at the tomb is dependent upon the raphael story in tobit.

at tobit 5-12 the character encounters the archangel raphael yet does not recognize him as such.

when he identifies himself, the human characters (tobias and wife) fall upon their faces.

noko59

So how old is Tolbit, is that Greek mytholog?