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  What Proof Is There That Rutherford Was Responsible For The Pyramid Monument Near CTR's Grave?

  by JWB in

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  what proof is there that rutherford was responsible for the pyramid monument near ctr's grave?.

  "charles taze russell died in 1916, the pyramid marker was installed in 1921 (5 years after his death), and the the masonic temple was built in the mid 1990s, these items have nothing to do with pastor russell's grave.

  the masonic temple is not even on the cemetery grounds, it is a different property altogether.

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  The Souvenir Report presented was not prepared by Russell, and thus only presents the what Rutherford and his associates claimed. It may be that Russell actually had approved the building of that monument, but Russell himself never wrote any about building such a monument in the Rosemont Cemetery.

  I have reworded one of the paragraphs quoted as follows:

  This pyramid monument is not Russell's gravestone, tombstone, or grave marker. Rutherford had this monument constructed in the middle of the plot owned by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, not just to honor Russell, but to honor all who died while working at the Watch Tower headquarters. There are numbered spaces for many names that were to be inscribed on that monument, not just Russell's. Rutherford, however, abandoned the witness of the Great Pyramid before the names could inscribed, so that the pyramid shows a lot of numbered blank spaces. Nevertheless, there is no one buried in or under that monument.

  I will also present the following paragraphs:

  It was claimed that Bohnet, before Russell had died, received authorization from Charles Taze Russell for the building of such a monument. Russell's written instructions, however, never mentions the building of such a monument, so it may be that Russell never actually authorized such a monument. Such an extravagant use of funds would seem to be out of harmony with the character of Russell; on the other hand, Rutherford came to be known for his flamboyant methods.

  Whether Russell was buried in or under a pyramid, however, is not as important as realizing why many wish to have Russell buried under such a monument, that is, to further the false claims that Russell was an occultist, or that Russell was into some kind of spiritistism, Satanism, demonism, etc. In reality, the Biblical study of the Great Pryamid has nothing to do with such.

  Other than the extravagance, however, we find nothing concerning Rutherford's monument to be objectionable, although many, by use of imaginative fanaticism, seem to see "occultism", "Masonic symbolisms", "astrology", "spiritism", and many other evil things regarding Rutherford's monument, as well as in or on the books and publications of Charles Taze Russell. It is not that the graphical symbols, such as the "cross and crown", are actually "Masonic", or "occultic", etc., but this is what many are being led to believe through imaginative assumptions that they are; and what is being imagined is then presented to be fact and proof, for instance, that Russell was a member of the Masons, and/or that Russell was, as they usually put it, "into" some kind of occult/spiritistic/demonic/evil/devious/deceptive "practice" and/or "plot".

  http://ctr.reslight.net/?p=1212
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  The Proclaimed and (later) Rejected anointed one: A TIMELINE

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  charles taze russell was born in 1852 (february 16) in pittsburgh, pennsylvania.

  he was raised in a strict presbyterian home.. .

  1868 (age 16) in an encounter with a non-believer he became disillusioned over the subject of whether god as a heavenly father would burn his children in hell.

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  The statement is made:

  "1880 (Age 28) Russell declares that his system of theology had been "revealed" to him directly from God."

  Since the word "revealed" is in quotes, I did an e-search of the Watch Tower for the year 1880 for the word "revealed", but could not find any such statement made by Russell. Is there an an exact reference available?
  
  The statement is made:

  1897 Russell is convinced Jehovah reveals his Truth to him alone.

  Again, I searched for two key words that appeared to be significant regarding this, that is, the word "alone" and froms of the word "reveal", but I could not locate any place in the Watch Tower for 1897 wherein Russell claimed that Jehovah reveals his truth to him alone. Is there an exact reference to what is being claimed?
  
  The statement is made;

  1903 (Russell is age 51) Maria Russell filed for legal separation. (Maria claimed she was tortured by Russell who denied her sex. She accused Russell of kissing and fondling his "special friend" who was stenographer and foster child.) J.F.Rutherford's words: "Miss Ball came to them in 1889, a child of ten...She was an orphan."*

  Facts: Russell never accused her husband of having sexual relations with anyone. Maria had agreed to the terms of the marriage, and by those terms could have requested sexual relations with her husband at any time, but she never requested such.

  The statement is made;

  Charles Russell had been moving his/their assets into the corporation for the previous 19 years to avoid alimony.

  Actually, all those assets held in Russell's name were by agreement being held in the interest of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. In other words, although they were in Russell's name, the assets actually belonged to the WTS. This arrangement was made because some believed that WTS itself should not be involved in the buying and selling of property, etc. Thus, for many years, monies derived from investments would go into the WTS funds. Finally, however, all the assets were put in the name of the WTS.

  Christian love,

  Ronald
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  any truth 2 Russell funded by Rothchilds

  by mind blown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is any of this true?

  historian, historian, david icke states, "...it was the rothschilds who funded the jehovah's witness operation into being, along with other illuminati bankerz (ie, kuhn, loeb, and co.), through "contributionz" by organizationz like the rothschild-controlled b'nai b'rith.

  this was proved in a court of law in 1922. one of the key people involved in this was frank goldman who later became president of b'nai b'rith.

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  "Old Goat" wrote:

  Russell saw the pyramid apex as representing Christ as "head of the corner." The cap stone of God's organization. The rays represent Christ's guidance. Read earlier comments in this post for more.

  I am not sure what is meant by "God's organization" in the above, but for many it would leave the impression that Russell believed in the organization that Rutherford called "Jehovah's organization." Russell never believed in such an organization.
  See:
  http://ctr.reslight.net/?cat=64
  
  I did an electronic search of Russell's works for the phrase "God's organization", and it produced no results at all; the same for the expression "Jehovah's organization". He did use the expression "the Lord's organization" a very few times, but not in the sense that Rutherford meant when he spoke of "Jehovah's organization".

  Russell believed that the apex of the pyramid would not be positioned in place until the age to come. He was not using the Great Pyramid to illustrate what Rutherford later called "Jehovah's visible organization" in this age, since Russell did not believe in such an organization for this age.
  
  As regarding "rays", I assume that this is in reference to lines spreading out from the small pyramids that appear on Plane "K" of the "Chart of the Ages" that appears in the First Volume. Russell's study and explanation of the various planes presented on that chart may be found at:
  http://mostholyfaith.com/bible/volumes/A12.asp

  The chart itself may be seen at:
  http://www.biblestudents.com/clickable_chart_of_the_ages_043004.cfm

  There are small pyramids on that top plane, as with all the various planes, except that the pyramids on this top plane have what one could call "rays" emitting from them. Russell never uses the word "rays" in his study, but he describes plane "K" as follows:

  We do not here refer to a glory of person, but to a glory of power or office.The reaching of plane L brings full personal glory; i.e., glorious being, like unto Christ. But after we are thus perfected, and made entirely like our Lord and Head, we are to be associated with him in the "glory" of power and office--to sit with him in his throne, even as he, after being perfected at his resurrection, was exalted to the right hand of the Majesty on high. Thus shall we enter everlasting glory, plane K .

  And he later states:

  Forty days after his resurrection, Jesus ascended to the majesty on high--the plane of divine glory, K (pyramid k ).During the Gospel age he has been in glory ( l ), "set down with the Father on his throne," and Head over his Church on earth--her director and guide. During this entire Gospel age the Church has been in process of development, discipline and trial, to the intent that in the end or harvest of the age she may become his bride and joint-heir. Hence she has fellowship in his sufferings, that she may be also glorified together with him (plane K ), when the proper time comes.

  The small pyramid "k" represents Jesus before the topstone is set in place, before the full pyramid is completed. The joint-heirs are elsewhere identified as the 144,000 or Revelation 7 and 14. It is not until the age to come that the topstone is set in place which is represented on Plane K by pyramid "x". Only then will Jesus and the joint-heirs rule over the whole creation; only then will the true theocratic kingdom function, since Satan will have been abyssed so that the heathen will no longer be blinded and deceived. It is then that sons of God will be revealed to the groaning creation (Romans 8:19-22) and will shine as sun. -- Daniel 12:3; Matthew 13:43.
  
  I cannot find any place that Russell directly mentions the lines drawn that exend outward around the small pyramids of Plane "K" (he may have somewhere, but so far I have not been able to find any mention of this); it appears that Russell probably meant those lines simply to represent that high office of glory.
  
  At any rate, there are some things I disagree with concerning Russell's chart as related to his explanations. My point here is that Russell did not believe that Jesus and the 144,000 begin to rule as the apex of the full pyramid until the age to come, after Satan is abyssed, to which I agree.
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  any truth 2 Russell funded by Rothchilds

  by mind blown in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is any of this true?

  historian, historian, david icke states, "...it was the rothschilds who funded the jehovah's witness operation into being, along with other illuminati bankerz (ie, kuhn, loeb, and co.), through "contributionz" by organizationz like the rothschild-controlled b'nai b'rith.

  this was proved in a court of law in 1922. one of the key people involved in this was frank goldman who later became president of b'nai b'rith.

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  Old Goat

  Re: any truth 2 Russell funded by Rothchilds posted 11 days ago (6/9/2012)

  Post 138 of 152 Since 6/14/2006

  As a note to the comment: "Several years after Russell died, Rutherford had a replica of God's witness in Egypt constructed in the middle of the plot owned by the WTS in the Rosemont Cemetery. There is nothing at all about Rutherford's pyramid monument, however, that is connected with the Freemasons' organization, nor with the Rosicrucians, etc. I highly doubt, however, that Russell would have approved of such a monument." As noted earlier, a convention report shows the planning for this monument started in 1914. The design was approved by Russell. It was not Rutherford's idea. That is was his idea is a bit of Bible Student propaganda. The idea came from Bonhet, was designed by him, and approved by Russell. see: Souvenir Notes from the Bible Student’s Convention: Pittsburgh, Pa., January 2-5, 1919, page 7 . You should be able to find that online.

  I am aware of what is stated in 1919 Convention Report; Russell, however, did not write that report.

  I have no doubt that Bohnet probably already begun making plans for that pyramid before 1914; I do not accept what is written in the report, however, as being actual proof that Russell approved the building of that monument. He may have, but having studied his writings for more than 50 years, it would just seem to be a out of character for him. One will not find any mention of such a monument anywhere in Russell's writings, nor was anything ever presented from Russell's own hand by which it could be said that he had approved the building of such a monument. Rutherford had already shown how himself to be one who misrepresented Russell, which is one of the reasons so many Bible Students had already come to distrust Rutherford. After Russell died, Rutherford began to twist and distort a lot of things; kinda reminds me of "Animal Farm". I do not put much stock in what was claimed in the 1919 Covention Report.
  
  On the other hand, it really makes no difference to me as to whether Russell approved that monument or not; to me, the biggest objection I could make regarding that monument would be that it was an extravagant use of funds that could have been to better use. It certainly is NOT, however, an abomination.
  
  The Convention Report mentioned may be found at:
  http://archive.org/details/1919BibleStudentConventionReport
  
  Other Bible Students Covention Reports of 1919:
  http://heraldmag.org/archives/1919_4.htm#_Toc517708187
  http://heraldmag.org/archives/1919_7.htm#_Toc517707972
  http://heraldmag.org/archives/1919_9.htm#_Toc517707857

  http://heraldmag.org/archives/1919_10.htm#_Toc517707812
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  any truth 2 Russell funded by Rothchilds

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  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is any of this true?

  historian, historian, david icke states, "...it was the rothschilds who funded the jehovah's witness operation into being, along with other illuminati bankerz (ie, kuhn, loeb, and co.), through "contributionz" by organizationz like the rothschild-controlled b'nai b'rith.

  this was proved in a court of law in 1922. one of the key people involved in this was frank goldman who later became president of b'nai b'rith.

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  ScenicViewer posted:

  Found on pages 1342 and 1343 of Watchtower Reprints.

  A letter to Barons Rothschild and Hirsch was given, which may seen in an earlier post. There is nothing in that letter that gives any evidence that Russell received funding from the Rothschilds. Evidently, those who cite that letter are either misunderstanding what Russell wrote, or else deliberately twisting what he wrote. Russell did made some suggestions, but, as far as I have been able to determine, as Russell later stated, no response was received from that letter. Other than that, I haven’t been able to verify any contact that Russell had with the Rothschilds.

  Followup to the above appeard in the March 1, 1892 Watch Tower, which I reproduce below:
  
  ROTHSCHILD PURCHASING LAND IN
  PALESTINE.
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  In answer to queries on the subject, we reply:
  We have not yet received a reply to the
  letters to Barons Rothschild and Hirsch, proposing
  a plan for the organization of Palestine
  as a nation. It appears, however, from the
  clipping below, that one of the gentlemen is
  already acting on a part of the suggestions offered.
  It reads as follows:--
  "Jewish exiles from Russia and Poland are
  really to have a home in Palestine after all.
  Through Baron Edmond de Rothschild a tract
  of land forty miles east of Lake Tiberias, and
  said to be extremely fertile, has been bought.
  No families will be sent until some young men,
  who are to go as pioneers, have made the
  country habitable."--Milwaukee Sentinel.
  
  It is evident from this notice that, at the time of that writing, he had not received any reply to his letter; doesn't at all sound like that Russell was close friends with them.
  
  As far as "Illuminati" is concerned, the only illuminati that Russell believed in of was the illumination of the Bible by means of the Holy Spirit.

  Charles Taze Russell, however, was never a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses organization; he did not believe in such an authoritarian organization. C. T. Russell did not believe that Christian congregations are subject to any central "governing body." He believed that each congregation should autonomous. Nor did Russell preach the bad tidings of great woe of eternal destruction in Armageddon for most of the peoples of the earth that the JW leadership teaches.

  Charles Taze Russell was most definitely never a member of the Freemasons' organization. I have tens of thousands of pages of Russell's works that provide overwhelming evidence that he was not a Freemason, whereas no one has presented any factual evidence yet that shows that he was a member of the Freemasons. All that is ever presented is what is being imagined and assumed, usually related to his Biblical study of the Great Pyramid (which has nothing at all to do with any kind of demonic occultism, spiritism, the Mason organization, etc.), some of the illustrations he used (cross and crown illustration, sun of righteousness with wings illustration, etc., again none of which illustrations are of themselves either of the occult, paganism, demonism, etc.). C.T. Russell did not believe in Enochian Magic, Enochian Magic Planes, astrology, Satanism, occultism, spiritism, demonism, witchcraft, etc. Indeed, he actively preached against such, although he never mentioned "Enochian Magic" at all by name.
  
  Several years after Russell died, Rutherford had a replica of God's witness in Egypt constructed in the middle of the plot owned by the WTS in the Rosemont Cemetery. There is nothing at all about Rutherford's pyramid monument, however, that is connected with the Freemasons' organization, nor with the Rosicrucians, etc. I highly doubt, however, that Russell would have approved of such a monument.

  I don't know a whole lot about David Icke; much of what Icke says seems to mimic the imaginative assumptions of Fritz Springmeier. I have studied several of Springmeier's books in great detail. He seems to identify the Illuminati as consisting of what he calls "Serpentine bloodlines". The only "Serpentine bloodline" that could scripturally be produced in existence today is that of Adam, who became a son of disobedience, and through whom all of his descendants have been condemned. All (the whole human race) of that serpentine bloodline may avail themselves of the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. According to the Bible, there has indeed been a conspiracy against God ever since the serpent (identified in Revelation as Satan) spoke his lie of deception to Eve. The seed of the serpent (Genesis 3:15) is the whole world according to the flesh; all of us, in the bloodline of Adam, are born into this world as members of the serpent's seed, "by nature, children of wrath," "sons of disobedience." (Ephesians 2:2,3) The only way to cut that tie is by means of faith in Jesus through the sacrificial blood that he poured out. (Romans 3:25; Ephesians 2:5; Galatians 2:20; 3:26) Thus, outside of those who have been justified and made alive by means of faith in Christ (Romans 5:1), everyone in the world is of the dying serpentine bloodline. -- Romans 5:12-19; 1 Corinthians 15:21,22.
  
  Russell's works online:
  http://mostholyfaith.com
  
  My website on Russell; I have presented a lot study especially related to Fritz Springmeier's assumptions and misrepresentations of Russell.
  http://ctr.reslight.net
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  JW Origins in New Brochures

  by donuthole in

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  one of the things i noticed in the two new brochures for the public is how the couch the modern day origins of jehovah's witnesses.

  "in the 1870's a small group of bible students began rediscovering long-lost bible truths.

  " - good news from god.

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  00DAD

  But Russell had a completely different idea of what 1914 was all about than do JWs currently. He believed it would be The End culminating in Armageddon, not The Beginning of the End the meaning of which would be revised at least six times between then and now culminating in the current "Overlapping Generation" nonsense.

  Russell's earlier view was that the time of trouble was end, not begin, in 1914. Russell adopted this view from N. H. Barbour in 1876. However, as best as I can determine, some of the Bible Students did not accept this view, and presented scriptural evidence that the end of the Gentile Times would NOT see the end of the time of trouble, but rather the beginning of the time of trouble. In 1904, ten years before 1914, Russell adopted this latter view, which, in effect, was a reversal of his earlier view that the time of trouble was to end in 1914. Thus from 1904 on up to 1914, Russell was expecting that time of trouble was to begin, not end, in 1914; he died in 1916 still with the belief that the time of trouble had begun in 1914.

  Russell's view of Armageddon, however, did not include the eternal destruction of millions of unbelievers as the JWs teach; he viewed it as a period of chastisement, not eternal destruction, upon the peoples of the nations.

  See:

  The JW Organization, Armageddon, 1914, and Russell
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  1919 and Jesus' selection of the Watchtower corporation

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  does anyone know any other reason(s) jesus might not have selected the watchtower corporation in 1919?.

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  16. Promoting Masonic symbols - (1918 March 1st Watchtower)

  

  Using the spirit of imagination so as to imagine and assume that there are "Masonic symbols" does not in fact actually mean that there are any "Masonic Symbols".

  Niether the Biblical "cross and crown" illustration nor the Biblical "armor of God" illustration shown above are "Masonic" symbols.

  Russell’s Cross and Crown Symbolism — Masonic? Rosicrucian?

  The Watchtower and the Masons

  Masonic Symbols?
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  1919 and Jesus' selection of the Watchtower corporation

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  1. watchtower
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  does anyone know any other reason(s) jesus might not have selected the watchtower corporation in 1919?.

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  15. Promoting the pagan "winged sun disk" - (1918 The Finished Mystery)

  Close match?

  Evidently, the thought that is desired to read into this is that since there is a "close match", we should imagine that the sun of righteousness illustration that Russell used must be itself pagan. I do not know if the heathen first produced their symbolism, or whether the heathen obtained their symbolism from the Hebrews and then perverted it. It really does not matter to me. I do not believe that the Bible is pagan because it refers to such symbolism. (Malachi 4:2) Russell had the design on his books made to reflect Malachi 4:2 and other scriptures, nor as a "pagan symbol".

  http://ctr.reslight.net/?s=masonic+symbol
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  1919 and Jesus' selection of the Watchtower corporation

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  does anyone know any other reason(s) jesus might not have selected the watchtower corporation in 1919?.

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  10. Teaching that the "other sheep" were to be in Heaven and number approximately 411,840,000 - (1918 The Finished Mystery page 102-103)

  “The number of the Great Company (other sheep) will apparently exceed one hundred millions. Num. 4:46-48 and Ex. 28:1 indicate but one priest to each 2,860 Levites, which would make the number of the Great Company approximate 411,840,000.—T118, 119; Dan. 7:10. 5:12. Saying with a loud voice—The Great Company will be very enthusiastic workers on the other side of the veil…“-1918 The Finished Mystery page 102-103

  I am not sure why this is being posted, except that biometrics may determined to change the history of the times so as to make the quote say something about the "other sheep".

  The above adds "(other sheep)" to what is actually stated; the book does not "(other sheep)" in reference to the Great Company.

  Was ten thousand times ten thousand, and
  thousands of thousands.— The number of the
  Great Company will apparently exceed one
  hundred millions. Num. 4:46-48 and Ex. 28:1
  indicate but one priest to each 2,860 Levites,
  which would make the number of the Great
  Company approximate 411,840,000.— T118,
  119; Dan. 7:10. 5:12

  There is no evidence here or anywhere else that the authors of this book were saying this of the "other sheep", since at that time, no one I know of believed that that the other sheep were represented in the great company.
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  1919 and Jesus' selection of the Watchtower corporation

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  2. beliefs

  does anyone know any other reason(s) jesus might not have selected the watchtower corporation in 1919?.

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  6. Preaching racism - (1902 Watchtower July 15th page 215)

  

  Evidently what biometrics wishes imagine and assume is that one should take the underlined portion out of context and then say that Russell was preaching that the white race is superior; Russell was responding to those "Christians" in his time who were claiming that the white race is superior, and he was simply admitting that in some areas it has appeared, at least on the surface, that the white race is superior. Russell was saying, however, that any other race could have exhibited the same if they had been as greatly influenced by the Bible, and thus that there is no call to think that the white race, of itself, has reason to boast because its race.