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  Guardians of the Doctrine... Illustrated

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Data-dog, having you laugh at one of my memes... is an honor sir!

  I love yours!!
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  Stats of conventions in Mexico

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i just went to a convention in mazatlan, mexico.. i had wanted to do this for a very long time, it left me shaken a bit (because i had a confrontation of sorts with one jw who recognized me), but i got some stats that give some insight into the borg.

  it really is crumbling, even in the places where they have arguably had the best, wildest success in the world: mexico.. just so you can see how much they have success in mexico compared to the us or anywhere else:.

  top three countries in 2014 were:.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  I just went to a convention in Mazatlan, Mexico.

  I had wanted to do this for a very long time, it left me shaken a bit (because I had a confrontation of sorts with one JW who recognized me), but I got some stats that give some insight into the Borg. It really is crumbling, even in the places where they have arguably had the best, wildest success in the world: Mexico.

  Just so you can see how much they have success in Mexico compared to the US or anywhere else:

  Top three countries in 2014 were:

  US: 1.2M max pubs
  Mexico: 829k max pubs
  Brazil: 794k max pubs

  But look at the ratios, way more important measure of success in a country:

  US: 1 JW per 259 people
  Mexico: 1JW per 149 people
  Brazil: 1 JW per 256 people

  So, ratio-wise, the JW's in Mexico do 70% better than the US or Brazil. In a few years, Mexico will be the #1 JW country in the world.

  And yet, even there:

  There were 2900 people in attendance. 28 people baptized. If all were JW, this is a ratio of ~1%. Assuming that 80% of people attending are publishers or baptized JW's, this means that, at best, this is a 1.2% increase in publishers.

  This is anemic growth! GREAT NEWS!

  What was sad was the demographics of the people getting baptized.

  Out of the 28 baptized, 17 were women, 11 men.

  of the men:

  3 looked under 18
  7 looked from 18-65
  1 looked 65+

  of the women:
  8 looked under 18
  8 looked 18-65
  1 looked 65+

  The man that was obviously 65+ had a very hard time getting baptized, he said he almost choked after the first dipping, but they had to dip him again because his hands were out. I just thought... stupid, fundamentalist idiots...

  I feel so sad for the 11 young people who have potentially just ruined their lives.
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  GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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  2. child-abuse

  okay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.

  but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.

  so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.

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  You can watch the rerun here:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUUd_f1jr7E&feature=youtu.be
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  Part 1 Video UP Geoffrey Jacksons questioning at the Australia Commission

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  1st half to nights video .

  higher quality later.

  http://youtu.be/quud_f1jr7e .

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Gotta love the internets.... all those series of tubes!!
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  GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  okay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.

  but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.

  so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.

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  So... I predict (in full JW style, I might be totally wrong, so I will pretend I didn't say this)...
  
  That perhaps... next week... we will hear "Geoffrey Jackson is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

  Done. They got rid of him, and back to usual.
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  Guardians of the Doctrine... Illustrated

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  Need the hardest evidence possible that humans have lived for more than 6000 years

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  since coming out of the witnesses, i have gone through a transformation in thought and in mind.

  i started with the usual: i thought that jesus was god.

  then i investigated more about the bible and thought that the bible was not true, given the many contradictions, failed prophecies, etc.. then i investigated evolution and read lots and now i accept evolution and natural selection as things that are true.. now, i need to make my dad rethink everything.

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  I found a book that might be of interest to everyone. It is academic and it told me exactly what I wanted to know. Cofty's book is great but it focuses on why the Earth is 4.5 billion years old (and it is something that the Watchtower agrees with), not on why mankind is more than 6000 years old (which is a major teaching point for the Watchtower).
  
  http://ww2.valdosta.edu/~dmthieme/Geomorph/Walker_2005_QuaternaryDatingMethods.pdf

  The interesting thing is that there are over 40 different dating methods, and they overlap in the times that can be dated... so there are, for every time period in the Quaternary, multiple methods of dating an artifact. The book is very detailed, but just by reading a bit of it (and other websites), we find that C14 dating usually errs on the side of dating something too young, not too old.
  
  The Watchtower needs to kill any confidence in the dating of artifacts because it just cannot accept that the Bible is wrong on the chronology of mankind.
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  Need the hardest evidence possible that humans have lived for more than 6000 years

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  since coming out of the witnesses, i have gone through a transformation in thought and in mind.

  i started with the usual: i thought that jesus was god.

  then i investigated more about the bible and thought that the bible was not true, given the many contradictions, failed prophecies, etc.. then i investigated evolution and read lots and now i accept evolution and natural selection as things that are true.. now, i need to make my dad rethink everything.

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  Thank you cofty, I will read it slowly. Yet again, the Watchtower promotes extreme scientific illiteracy.

  I am impressed by how many different ways there are to date something nowadays, and that the methods agree and are trusted.

  Interestingly, if there are any errors, the errors are generally dating something too young. So perhaps the 10,000 year ago pottery is more likely 12,000 years ago, not 8,000 years ago.
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  Need the hardest evidence possible that humans have lived for more than 6000 years

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  since coming out of the witnesses, i have gone through a transformation in thought and in mind.

  i started with the usual: i thought that jesus was god.

  then i investigated more about the bible and thought that the bible was not true, given the many contradictions, failed prophecies, etc.. then i investigated evolution and read lots and now i accept evolution and natural selection as things that are true.. now, i need to make my dad rethink everything.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Thank you. I will take the time to read the various dating methods available.

  Thanks!
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  Need the hardest evidence possible that humans have lived for more than 6000 years

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since coming out of the witnesses, i have gone through a transformation in thought and in mind.

  i started with the usual: i thought that jesus was god.

  then i investigated more about the bible and thought that the bible was not true, given the many contradictions, failed prophecies, etc.. then i investigated evolution and read lots and now i accept evolution and natural selection as things that are true.. now, i need to make my dad rethink everything.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Found this too:
  
  An answer to creationist's attacks on c-14 dating:
  
  http://ncse.com/cej/3/2/answers-to-creationist-attacks-carbon-14-dating