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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

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  wow.

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  wow.someone just sent me a scan of the boonville advertiser newspaper in which it mentions j.f.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  I only pay for access to UK records, so unfortunately not able to check US censuses, but to give an idea, listed in the 1871 UK census, there are 17 different Joseph Rutherfords born around 1869 and 64 John Rutherfords . If anyone has access to the US Ancestry website, you will very likely find similar results, including the Joseph and John in question.
  The free Latter Day Saints website lists 71 Joseph Rutherfords alive in the 1880 census, including 5 in Missouri.

  So we have 5 J.R.'s in Missouri. How many J. F. Rutherfords though?
  
  We have confounding info #1 which was a John F. Rutherford, but he was in Arkansas.
  
  Confounding info #2 is J. Rutherfords, but not J.F. Rutherfords.
  
  Same first name and middle name initial, and last name, in a small town of less than 4400 people?

  Safe to assume it's him. But now I want a "smoking gun" proof.
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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  wow.

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  wow.someone just sent me a scan of the boonville advertiser newspaper in which it mentions j.f.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Population of Boonville, MO in 1900 was 4377 according to Wikipedia. Two J.F. Rutherfords among 4377 people?
  
  I highly doubt it.
  
  I need to get more clippings from this newspaper.
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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  wow.

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  wow.someone just sent me a scan of the boonville advertiser newspaper in which it mentions j.f.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  It is most likely him.
  
  Here's another time where he appeared in the same newspaper.
  
  http://truthhistory.blogspot.mx/2012/12/j-f-rutherfords-first-book.html
  
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  Welcome !

  by Simon in

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  welcome to the newest jehovah's witness discussion forum on the net.. please register so that you can post to the forum and turn this into a welcoming place for other brothers and sisters online

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Angharad is Simon's wife
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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  wow.

  wow.

  wow.someone just sent me a scan of the boonville advertiser newspaper in which it mentions j.f.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  I contacted the Knights of Pythias organization. When I have an answer I will let you all know.
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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  wow.

  wow.

  wow.someone just sent me a scan of the boonville advertiser newspaper in which it mentions j.f.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Steve,
  
  The info was passed on to me by a person who follows my exJW facebook page. Upon investigation, it seems like this person got that info from here:
  
  http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TMKD6NCLPTF6KEHE7/p2

  
  "Hi SOSSOS. Regarding Rutherford's membership in the Knights of Pythias, see the January 20, 1899 Boonville (Missouri) Weekly Advertiser (Volume 53, Number 20) page 1, lists the local membership which includes Joseph F. Rutherford. See also the January 13, 1898 Boonville Weekly Advertiser, page 1, where J. F. Rutherford was elected toastmaster for the Knights. The notice said that he was a good one.
  
  Rutherford's membership in the Woodmen of the World is mentioned in the February 17. 1899 Boonville Advertiser, page 1.
  
  This information in on microfilm and is available for researchers at the Missouri State Historical Society."
  
  When you actually look at the newspaper, however, it is only the initials, J.F. that are used, not "Joseph".
  
  Again, I have no idea how to actually prove that this JF Rutherford was actually Joseph Franklin Rutherford.

  Any ideas?
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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  wow.

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  wow.someone just sent me a scan of the boonville advertiser newspaper in which it mentions j.f.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  HB, thank you for your research.

  I am interested in finding the truth about matters. If I was wrong, then so be it.
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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  wow.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  Jeffro,

  Arkansas is one thing, and Boonville, Missouri, is another.
  
  What are the odds that there were TWO J.F. Rutherfords in Boonville, Missouri, in 1899? The newspaper source is from Boonville, Missouri.
  
  It all fits that it was Joseph Franklin Rutherford.
  
  Do you have further proof that this was not Joseph Franklin Rutherford?
  
  It is easy to believe that there were two J.F. Rutherfords in the Knights of Pythias organization, which was all around the US. It is very hard to believe that there were TWO J.F. Rutherfords in Boonville, Missouri.
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  Old Watchtower Literature

  by biblexaminer in

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  somewhere, somewhen, a dubb died.... waiting for the end no doubt.

  when they died, they left their precious watchtower literature to somebody else, another dubb.. and that dubb also waiting for the end, living some austere life as they hovered over their precious and aging watchtower library, eventually died.. and again.

  and again.. eventually, the last dubb to die left their bound 'salvation' to the congregation, who put it on a shelf, never to be read again.. and that's where i came in.. watchtower bound volume originals from the 1800's and others.. very old.. the watchtower .

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  ILoveTTATT2

  You're SOOOOO DAMN LUCKY!! I would LOVE to have those pieces of WT Literature!! They're GEMS (for different reasons than JW's consider them gems)!!!
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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  Law career[edit source]

  Rutherford spent two years as a judge's intern, became an official court reporter at age 20, and was admitted to the Missouri bar in May 1892 at age 22.[24] He became a trial lawyer for a law firm[25] and later served for four years in Boonville as a public prosecutor. He campaigned briefly for Democratic presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan.[26] He was a member of the Knights of Pythias, even being a toastmaster at the inauguration of the Golden Gate Lodge in Boonville, Missouri.[27] He was appointed as a Special Judge in the Eighth Judicial Circuit Court of Missouri,[24][28][29][30] sitting as a substitute judge at least once when a regular judge was unable to hold court.[23] As a result of this appointment he became known by the sobriquet "Judge" Rutherford. He was admitted to the New York bar in 1909 and admitted to practice before the Supreme Court of the United States the same year.[31]