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Have a friend who only speaks Spanish and want him/her to learn TTATT? www.verdadtj.com
by ILoveTTATT2 inif you have a friend who only speaks spanish, or they speak english but spanish is their preferred language, i am pleased to tell you that there is a spanish translation of jwfacts in progress.
so far, these are the completely translated articles:asociación de la watchtower con las naciones unidas - un ngo associationcelebración de los cumpleaños - birthdayslas transfusiones de sangre - bloodpredicción fallida de 1975 - 1975¿por qué está mal el ser un testigo de jehová?
- what's wrong with being a jw?escándalos de la watchtower - watchtower scandalsexpulsión y rechazo - disfellowshippingfolleto general acerca de la watchtower - pdf - general pdf about wtvideo - crecer como testigo de jehová - growing up a jw¿debería estar jehová en el nuevo testamento?
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DPRK Asserts that USA has Declared War
by cofty innorth korea has taken president trump's recent statements as a declaration of war.
pyongyang reserves the right to shoot down american planes even if they are not inside their airspace.. i listened to trump's speech to the un with dismay.
it demonstrated a total lack of understanding of his enemy and the inevitable consequences of inflicting personal insults on kim jong-un.
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Sad times.
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I had been waiting for this video since 2013... DEFINITIVE PROOF that the Flag is placed in Kingdom Halls in Chile!
by ILoveTTATT2 innow with english subtitles!.
this is the definitive proof that kingdom halls in chile display the flag.
a brave person went inside the kingdom hall while the meeting was happening and took video of the flag being displayed inside the kingdom hall property.
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On Youtube, someone asked if they are breaking any principles by displaying the flag. I argue that they are:
According to the Watchtower, the flag is an idol.
* g93 7/22 p. 17 The Courage to Put God First * Can the flag really be considered an idol? Few would seriously argue that it is a mere piece of cloth. It is widely treated as a sacred symbol, and more. Catholic historian Carlton Hayes put it this way: “Nationalism’s chief symbol of faith and central object of worship is the flag.”* w10 5/1 p. 31 What is a Kingdom Hall? * In a Kingdom Hall, however, you will not find any of the religious emblems and fixtures typically associated with the churches of Christendom. There are no altars, images, or crosses on display. Why not? Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the use of such items conflicts with the Bible’s command to “flee from idolatry.”
So even if it is a law, They should reply with Acts 5:29: In answer Peter and the other apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men. -
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I had been waiting for this video since 2013... DEFINITIVE PROOF that the Flag is placed in Kingdom Halls in Chile!
by ILoveTTATT2 innow with english subtitles!.
this is the definitive proof that kingdom halls in chile display the flag.
a brave person went inside the kingdom hall while the meeting was happening and took video of the flag being displayed inside the kingdom hall property.
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ILoveTTATT2
LOL. Already there are comments on Youtube denying it...
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I had been waiting for this video since 2013... DEFINITIVE PROOF that the Flag is placed in Kingdom Halls in Chile!
by ILoveTTATT2 innow with english subtitles!.
this is the definitive proof that kingdom halls in chile display the flag.
a brave person went inside the kingdom hall while the meeting was happening and took video of the flag being displayed inside the kingdom hall property.
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ILoveTTATT2
Now with English Subtitles!
This is the DEFINITIVE PROOF that Kingdom Halls in Chile display the flag. A brave person went inside the Kingdom Hall while the meeting was happening and took video of the flag being displayed inside the Kingdom Hall property. Then, at least two Witnesses try to explain to the person why they display the flag, saying, essentially, "it's the law".
This video was taken while it was still light out, the flag is CLEARLY VISIBLE, and we even get an explanation from witnesses.
https://youtu.be/eetNR7fYuD8It would take the most hardened fanatic to be able to deny this video.
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2017 Kingdom Hall in Chile with Flag with Meeting
by ILoveTTATT2 infinally, after 5 years, we have received footage that shows, unmistakably, that there was a flag in the kingdom hall, while a meeting was happening.here is the video:https://youtu.be/uel3otw6gemi will post this year's pictures below.
this year we had pictures and video of three different kingdom halls with the flag!.
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Daytime and nighttime footage combined, plus an explanation within the video.
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2017 Kingdom Hall in Chile with Flag with Meeting
by ILoveTTATT2 infinally, after 5 years, we have received footage that shows, unmistakably, that there was a flag in the kingdom hall, while a meeting was happening.here is the video:https://youtu.be/uel3otw6gemi will post this year's pictures below.
this year we had pictures and video of three different kingdom halls with the flag!.
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When you think about it is it such a big deal ? According to Rom.13 ,Christians are to be in subjection to the superior authorities ,the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.
That's one way of looking at it. But, for the Watchtower, putting up the flag in the Kingdom Hall is absolutely wrong according to their own standards. Here's why:
And displaying a flag should no more be a problem than standing for a judge in a court of law .
Its just a matter of showing respect for the office in question.
*** w87 6/1 pp. 21-22 ‘My Cup Has Been Full’ *** I must confess that it came somewhat as a surprise to us that our children took a stand in school as they did. Of course, we had taught them respect for the country and the flag, and we had also taught them God’s commandments about not bowing down to images and idols.
*** w76 3/15 p. 184 par. 8 Reconciliation Through God’s Mercy Before Har–Magedon ***In modern times, opposition to worshiping anything idolatrous was demonstrated by the remnant of spiritual Israelites, whom Jehovah used his Messiah Jesus to release from Babylon the Great in 1919 C.E. They have striven to render exclusive devotion to Jehovah as their God, even to the extent of refusing to salute the flag of any nation. (Ex. 20:1-6; 2 Cor. 6:15 through 7:1) They just will not contaminate themselves with anything that looks like Baal worship.
*** w76 11/1 p. 655 Insight on the News ***The Flag—“A Living Thing?”● Rules governing the use of the American flag have been revised for the first time in thirty-four years. The new legislation affects when the flag may be displayed and its authorized location on automobiles; it also deletes the hand-over-heart salute requirement for women. The revised code also adds: “The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.”If the flag is officially considered to be “a living thing,” can it be said that Christians who respectfully decline to join in the flag ceremony are unreasonable in citing as their basis the Bible’s command to “flee from idolatry”? (1 Cor. 10:14) Author Whitney Smith, director of the Flag Research Center and considered America’s top expert on flags, advocates flying and saluting the flag. Yet even he recently admitted that “we’ve turned the flag into a civil religion.”
*** w74 1/15 p. 62 Questions From Readers ***It should be kept in mind that a national flag is more than a piece of cloth. It is officially viewed as a sacred symbol of a nation and is treated with reverence. When worn out, for example, the national practice often rules that the flag is not to be disposed of unceremoniously, but is to be ‘destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.’ There are also regulations governing the hoisting, lowering, folding, flying and displaying of flags. Saluting or pledging allegiance to the flag is considered as a reverent act, an act of sacred devotion, and since the flag is an image of the State, such an act constitutes a form of idolatry.—Compare Exodus 20:4-6; 1 John 5:21.While not discouraging others from saluting the flag of any nation, Jehovah’s Christian witnesses feel that they can give such worship only to Jehovah God. They have due respect for the flag of their respective countries, but for them to idolize the flag of any nation and engage in acts of worship to an image of the State would be an act of unfaithfulness toward God and disloyalty toward the kingdom of God’s Son.
Etc etc... there are plenty more quotes like that.
The flag is considered to be an idol.
Would the witnesses accept to "just place" or "just display" a Virgin Mary statue in the Kingdom Hall if it was a law? Wouldn't every single witness say it's definitely a case of "obeying God rather than men", and would be glad to pay the fine? -
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Just a story to share
by sinboi inguy a and guy b were in bondage for a long time.
during this period, they have endured a lot of suffering and hardship.. somehow, they managed to escape from their captors.. guy a was very happy that he regained his freedom.
he put everything behind him, work hard and succeeded in building up a career.. 10 years later, he met guy b. he asked guy b what he has been doing for the past 10 years.. guy b replied :" i can't forget how we suffered while in bondage.
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There is nothing wrong with being guy A. I am perfectly happy if most people who free themselves from the Watchtower end up being guy A, in fact.
Don't be Guy B of the first parable... that's wrong. Holding on to grudges and stuff for many years can hurt you.
But you can be Guy B from the second one without being Guy B from the first one... Be an activist but have your own life.
Now, let's all get together and have a beer and some barbecue ;)
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Just a story to share
by sinboi inguy a and guy b were in bondage for a long time.
during this period, they have endured a lot of suffering and hardship.. somehow, they managed to escape from their captors.. guy a was very happy that he regained his freedom.
he put everything behind him, work hard and succeeded in building up a career.. 10 years later, he met guy b. he asked guy b what he has been doing for the past 10 years.. guy b replied :" i can't forget how we suffered while in bondage.
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Guy A and guy B were in bondage for a long time. During this period, they have endured a lot of suffering and hardship.
Somehow, they managed to escape from their captors.
Guy A was very happy that he regained his freedom. He put everything behind him, work hard and succeeded in building up a career.
10 years later, he met guy B. He asked guy B what he has been doing for the past 10 years.
Guy B said: I've been helping others escape their captors. Although this means I have to be close to my former captors, it gives me immense pleasure to know that I have freed over 100 more people!
Guy A and Guy B then went for a beer, happy they were both out and had used their lives well.
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2017 Kingdom Hall in Chile with Flag with Meeting
by ILoveTTATT2 infinally, after 5 years, we have received footage that shows, unmistakably, that there was a flag in the kingdom hall, while a meeting was happening.here is the video:https://youtu.be/uel3otw6gemi will post this year's pictures below.
this year we had pictures and video of three different kingdom halls with the flag!.
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I think the GB instructed the Chilean congregations to go ahead and fly the flag because they were not going to pay the $400 dollar fine as of course the Chilean congregations don't have that kind of money each year.
The congregations are instructed to decide if they want to put up the flag or not. About 10 years ago, most congregations put up the flag. Now it's getting rarer for congregations to put the flag, because of tremendously bad PR now that people are taking videos and pictures of this. Unfortunately, the fine is almost never enforced... so the KH's can get away with not putting the flag AND not paying the fine... if they wanted to.