I guess "everyone" does not include apostates in the people who are invited. I was once asked politely to retire from a convention in Mazatlan because I was apparently making the JW's uneasy just with my presence. I just wanted to count how many were baptized and their demographics (male/female, approximate age).
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Almost three months since Crisis of Conscience Cease and Desist
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am very interested in getting crisis of conscience being fully available as soon as possible.
march 12th will mark exactly three months since the cease-and-desist letter was written.. i understand that things are slow and that deborah may be sick, but i was just wondering if anyone knew the status.
i have been asked twice already where the book can be obtained in spanish and i have told people that the book is not available.. there are ways to make ebooks extremely hard to share.
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I am very interested in getting Crisis of Conscience being fully available as soon as possible. March 12th will mark exactly three months since the cease-and-desist letter was written.
I understand that things are slow and that Deborah may be sick, but I was just wondering if anyone knew the status. I have been asked twice already where the book can be obtained in Spanish and I have told people that the book is not available.
There are ways to make ebooks extremely hard to share. Adobe Digital Editions, for example, is used to "borrow" a book.
I hope that the book is available soon, in many accessible formats, and in many languages.
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How the Churches got the ‘End of the World’ wrong in 1492.
by fulltimestudent inin 1453 constantinople (also known as byzantium), the last remnant of the once mighty roman empire was a christian island in an islamic sea.
the city had been seriously weakened during the holy fourth crusade (1202-04), when fellow christians of the catholic brand had besieged the city, captured it, and savagely sacked it.. ( who needs enemies when you have christian friends?).
a miniature of the siege, artist unknown.
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A step in the right direction: Denmark banning circumcision as a cruel, barbaric and archaic ritual not fit for modern civilised lands
by Gilbeath Haaraloth inas you may know, this makes me very happy.
ban on religious circumcision.
relate to a ban in all probability will not stop the millennium old core tradition in many parts of islam and especially judaism.
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The article talks about the POSSIBILITY of making a ban on circumcision. I wholeheartedly agree with a ban on any sort of circumcision, both male and female.
There are religious considerations for male circumcision, if there was a ban, it would make a lot of Jewish and Muslim people angry, they would see it as an affront against their religious beliefs.
So while I respect the 1st amendment and what it stands for, I also think that the government should protect children. I highly doubt that, if given the chance, an adult would voluntarily go through circumcision. When circumcision is done, the future adult's opinion is not taken into consideration.
Unfortunately I cannot go back to being uncircumcised, so I cannot know the difference it makes regarding sexual pleasure. But if the scientific studies are right, then I now feel like I was unnecessarily robbed of something.
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UNDERSTANDING money and the history of the Watch Tower
by Terry intoday the watch tower corp. is changing a long-standing policy in regard to donations which had been in place a long, long time.. to understand the original policies (about money) and the changed (new policy) we have to take a peek into the past.. .
i don't want to bog you down in history.
you can research on your own using google.. here are salient facts.. _________________________________________________.
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CRA screwup for WT Canada?
by berrygerry inokay, they've posted their 2015 return - i am very confused.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form23-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&fpe=2015-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada+%2f+la+tour+de+garde+soci%c3%a9t%c3%a9+de+bibles+et+de+tracts+du+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3fk%3dwatch%2btower%26amp%3bs%3dregistered%26amp%3bp%3d1%26amp%3bb%3dtrue.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on?.
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Wow OrphanCrow you're amazing at finding scandals!
If what you are saying is correct, it would be a HUGE deal!
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Ladies: Circumcision or not?
by Wonderment inthe topic of circumcision has been brought up a few times recently.
then i wondered... .
how do women really view circumcision?
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There may be exceptions, but I guess KateWild hadn't thought of the damage male circumcision does with a Jewish background as JW's have probably not thought of the damage shunning does if they have never seen "apostate" literature. It is "just the thing you do". It is only once you are out and start considering facts, figures, etc... that you realize that what you have thought of as innocuous could actually be very harmful.
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Ladies: Circumcision or not?
by Wonderment inthe topic of circumcision has been brought up a few times recently.
then i wondered... .
how do women really view circumcision?
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This thread is very interesting because it highlights the differences in thinking between different cultures, backgrounds, sexes, etc.
Kate wild has a Jewish background, so it makes sense that she has only seen male circumcision as a positive thing. Like most topics, we generally have not researched them and have the opinion that was imposed upon us from our religion or culture.
Simon and everyone who has a European (but not Jewish) background will likely see male circumcision as abhorrent.
People who are of an American, born in the 60's or 70's background, will likely see male circumcision as OK, because they have up to a 90% likelihood of being circumcised.
Most people who have ever watched porn will know that most penises in porn or circumcised, possibly because of the fact that a lot of the porn industry is US-based. Since porn has a great influence on people's sexual expectations, it's likely that American women expect a circumcised man. (I am speculating here).
I was born in El Salvador, where apparently less than 10% of men are circumcised. My mother was a JW when I was born, and I have a strong suspicion that because of a WT article being very pro-circumcision at that time, that I was circumcised.
After reading the many reports of how there is so much sexual pleasure lost because of circumcision, I am outraged at the fact my mother chose that for me.
Also, after watching for a few seconds a video of a circumcision being done, I am firmly opposed to it, it should be banned. The baby was screaming in pain, because of the injections required to put anesthesia. I stopped watching after a few seconds it was very painful to even watch.
The WHO recommends male circumcision in places where there is a high incidence of HIV because it has been proven that male circumcision reduces by about 60% the probability of transmission from a female to a male of HIV. But this is ridiculous, a condom, properly used, is 100% effective.
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JW History in Pictures #1
by Wild_Thing inthe death of a cult leader.
the gaudy and ostentatiousness of the proceedings following the death of charles taze russell is really interesting to look at.
i can't decide if it is further proof of how much of a cult they were, even back then, or how much they are just like other religions, like the catholics.
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Hi Wild thing,
Thank you so much for posting! I had only seen the first and the third picture, where did you get the second and the fourth? Are they in some other WT publication?
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Brooklyn Eagle November 12, 1911: Shows that this cult has been breaking up families at least for 105 years
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am doing investigation on the early history of the bible students / jehovah's witnesses.
one resource that is turning out to be extremely useful is the brooklyn eagle.. .
the brooklyn eagle was a newspaper that had a lot of animosity against the watchtower society.
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By the way, $45,000 in 1911 comes out to $1,110,608.23 in 2016 dollars. So the Russellites managed to swindle at least $1M from this woman. This shows a man worried that his wife was going into a cult!!