Hahahaha I was like wtf? one day when I figured out that you could keep pressing the upvote or the downvote. I think for one I upvoted like 25 times... to see what would happen. Then I hit refresh and I was like... darn...
You probably got one of those "server logs" from me. LOL
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Just a reminder about voting
by Simon inthere appear to be some people who are of the mistaken opinion that endlessly clicking the like or dislike button 20x will mean 20x votes.. it doesn't !!!.
only one vote is ever counted.
1 user, 1 vote, each post.
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Past Watchtower Claims
by Giordano ini’ve been reviewing the scientific claims that the society promoted through the golden age magazine (later replaced by the awake).. each statement comes from an official publication of the wtbts.
while this material goes back many years so do jw’s beliefs that were and still are promoted as the ‘truth’.. a more up to date account of jw science and medicine and many other great topics........ can be found on jwfacts.com.
the science of the watchtower plus an occasional face palm i couldn’t resist.. “color and physiognomy..........a blue nose..... is a symbol of austerity, with perhaps a prudish tinge.....the size of the nose, as also the size of the eyes, is not without significance.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santonin
Santonin was an agent which (compared to more modern anthelminthic drugs) was very complicated to use and entailed rather serious risk to the patient. Nearly every formulary and herbal which lists santonin or santonin-containing plants lists the real risk of yellow vision and of fatal reactions; even small doses of santonin cause disturbances of vision, usually yellow vision or perhaps green (xanthopsia or chromatopsia). Even the Encyclopædia Britannica noted:
...These effects usually pass off in a few days. Large doses, however, produce toxic effects, aphasia, muscular tremors and epileptiform convulsions, and the disturbances of vision may go on to total blindness.
More typical is the warning given regarding side effects of santonin in King's American Dispensatory:
Santonin is an active agent, and, in improper doses, is capable of producing serious symptoms, and even death. As small a dose as 2 grains is said to have killed a weakly child of 5 years, and 5 grains produced death in about 1/2 hour in a child of the same age. Among the toxic effects may be mentioned gastric pain, pallor and coldness of the surface, followed by heat and injection of the head, tremors, dizziness, pupillary dilatation, twitching of the eyes, stertor, copious sweating, hematuria, convulsive movements, tetanic cramps stupor, and insensibility. Occasionally symptoms resembling cholera morbus have been produced, and in all cases the urine presents a characteristic yellowish or greenish-yellow hue. We have observed convulsions caused by the administration of "worm lozenges." Death from santonin is due to respiratory paralysis, and post-mortem examination revealed in one instance a contracted and empty right ventricle, and about an ounce of liquid, black blood in the left heart, an inflamed duodenum, and inflamed patches in the stomach (Kilner). . . . Santonin often produces a singular effect upon the vision, causing surrounding objects to appear discolored, as if they were yellow or green, and occasionally blue or red; it also imparts a yellow or green color to the urine, and a reddish-purple color if that fluid be alkaline. Prof. Giovanni was led to believe that the apparent yellow color of objects observed by the eye, when under the influence of santonin, did not depend upon an elective action on the optic nerves, but rather to the yellow color which the drug itself takes when exposed to the air. Santonin colored by the air does not produce this effect, which only follows the white article. The air gives the yellow color to santonin, to passed urine containing it, and to the serum of the blood when drawn from a vein, and, according to Giovanni, it is owing to its direct action upon the aqueous humor, where it is carried by absorption, that objects present this color. The view now held, however, is that of Rose, that the alkaline serum dissolves the santonin, which then acts upon the perspective centers of the brain, producing the chromatopsia or xanthopsia.
Yes... "wisdom from above"!!
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Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population
by ILoveTTATT2 ini didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.
this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.
supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.
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If you need a viable population of some thousands, how come it has been possible to re-establish animal populations based on only a handfull of individuals? In many cases, they have managed to gather the 2, 3 4 or so living individuals of a kind, make them mate and after a few years they have been successfully re-introduced on their island or in their region and now are as safe as any animal population can be these days.
Uh... no.First of all, there are very few examples of this. It is rare, but possible, in cases of extreme luck, to get a bottleneck that narrow and still have the population rebound. I read about two examples:
Cheetahs and elephant seals. In the case of elephant seals, the numbers were down to around 20, and now they are around 30,000. Cheetahs are pretty much identical genetically, and they went through an extreme bottleneck around 10,000 years ago.
But they are not "as safe as any animal population can be these days". Genetically speaking, they are at a very high risk. One disease for which they are all susceptible and they die out.So my point stands, most species need a minimum viable population that is in the hundreds to thousands of individuals to survive.
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Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population
by ILoveTTATT2 ini didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.
this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.
supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.
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Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population
by ILoveTTATT2 ini didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.
this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.
supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.
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I didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years. This is called the "minimum viable population".
Genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark. Supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.
This is interesting:
"An MVP of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.[3][4] When inbreeding effects are included, estimates of MVP for many species are in the thousands. Based on a meta-analysis of reported values in the literature for many species, Traill et al. reported a median MVP of 4,169 individuals.[5]"
4169 individuals PER SPECIES are required to have the species survive. Otherwise there is not enough genetic variation to survive, there would be massive extinction the moment the species encountered anything that would be harmful to its genetic pool (which would be very limited).
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Today I went to a JW cult meeting . Still recovering
by Watchtower-Free intoday i went to a jw cult meeting .
still recovering.
congo i was raised in.
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Hugs. It takes a lot of courage and I admire you because deep inside I am sure you hated every second but you did that sacrifice for your family.
I applaud you!
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New study - JWs by far the least educated religious group in Canada, Australia and New Zealand
by slimboyfat inthe religion of the educated classes revisited: new religions, the nonreligious, and educational levels - james r. lewis .
the measure lewis uses to compare religious groups is what percentage of members of the respective religions have graduated from college.
the findings are similar to the results of the pew survey in the united states.
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Too bad you have to buy the full text... =(
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If this doesn't make you question the Bible, I don't know what will...
by ILoveTTATT2 in1 chronicles 18:4. .
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Stuckinatut... Thank you! Same as my work but actually fun!!
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If this doesn't make you question the Bible, I don't know what will...
by ILoveTTATT2 in1 chronicles 18:4. .
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If you can't see the table well,
See this link:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gF4Mp28UzRFcejM9qixShpCn9NxL3sR0BzNhd7E9vSY
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If this doesn't make you question the Bible, I don't know what will...
by ILoveTTATT2 in1 chronicles 18:4. .
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I took the time to compare the different accounts in 1-2 Samuel and 1-2 Kings with 1-2 Chronicles.
I compared both the Masoretic Text (based on the New World Translation) and the Septuagint (based on NETS).
Since apologists usually can weasel out of contradictions in things such as whether Jehovah feels regret or he doesn't, but numbers are much harder to explain when they're different, I have made a list of the differences in the numbers expressed in the various scriptures.
Judge for yourself. How can there be so many differences in the numbers of things? There are multiple differences in the same chapter sometimes!Scripture 1 Scripture 2 Scripture 3 MT1 LXX1 MT2 LXX2 MT3 LXX3 2 Samuel 8:4 1 Chronicles 18:4 1,700 1,000 1,000 1,000 NA NA 2 Samuel 8:4 1 Chronicles 18:4 (included) 7,000 7,000 7,000 NA NA 2 Samuel 8:13 1 Chronicles 18:12 Psalm 60 (59 in LXX) superscript 18,000 18,000 18,000 18,000 12,000 12,000 2 Samuel 10:18 1 Chronicles 19:18 700 700 7,000 7,000 NA NA 2 Samuel 24:9 1 Chronicles 21:5 800,000 800,000 1,100,000 1,100,000 NA NA 2 Samuel 24:9 1 Chronicles 21:5 500,000 500,000 470,000 480,000 NA NA 2 Samuel 24:13 1 Chronicles 21:12 7 3 3 3 NA NA 2 Samuel 24:24 1 Chronicles 21:25 50 silver 50 silver 600 gold 600 gold NA NA 1 Kings 7:26 2 Chronicles 4:5 2,000 (omits) 3,000 3,000 NA NA 1 Kings 9:23 2 Chronicles 8:10 550 (omits) 250 250 NA NA 1 Kings 9:28 2 Chronicles 8:18 420 120 450 450 NA NA 1 Kings 10:26 2 Chronicles 9:25 1,400 4,000 4,000 4,000 NA NA