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  Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?

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  i am writing an article on whether c.t.

  russell was a mason.

  i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.

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  Thank you, Wifibandit! That means now that I know the author is a "he", his name is Bruce.
  Now to find out if he is/was a JW or what relationship he has had with the Watchtower.

  Thanks!
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  Who is B.W. Schulz? Anyone know?

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i am writing an article on whether c.t.

  russell was a mason.

  i am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.. i just bought b.w.

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  I am writing an article on whether C.T. Russell was a Mason. I am of the opinion that he was not, given the evidence.

  I just bought B.W. Schulz's book, A Separate Identity: Organizational Identity Among Readers of Zion’s Watch Tower: 1870-1887, I can't wait to get my hands on it, it seems like it's going to be quite a dense read.
  
  The thing is, I have no idea who B.W. Schulz is. I don't know if the author is a man or a woman, if he/she is a JW, a Bible Student, an exJW, or what. (I am going to refer to the author as a "he").
  
  Certainly his website doesn't give me too much confidence that he's not biased. It's a blog called truthhistory...
  
  From the reviews, however, it seems to be a "neutral" book. We'll have to see.
  
  Does anyone know about the author?
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  The Governing Body wishes you...

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  happy ash wednesday!.

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  Happy Easter!

  
  
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  Potential New Article for JWFacts: Iglesia Ni Cristo

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  paul has allowed me to write up two articles for jwfacts: iglesia ni cristo, and why russell was not a mason.here is my iglesia ni cristo article.

  “we believe that there is only one true god, the father, and no one else besides him”.

  thus, faith alone is not enough.. about baptism.

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  1. Are there members outside the Philippines? Where and how many? Any in the U.K. For example.
  
  Yes, there are members. It is unknown how many members since the church doesn't publish member numbers.

  2. Have JWs and the Iglesia ever discussed or acknowledged each other in literature or otherwise?
  
  JW's discussing INC: Not that I am aware.
  INC's discussing JW's: Yes. There are a few videos even of people who were JW and converted to INC.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPd7GguO1cE
  

  3. How did they arrive at 1914, with the same WT chronology or another method?
  
  The INC sees 1914 as important because it was the year in which the religion was established. Different reasons for holding the year as special, but same end result: 1914 was the beginning of the Last Days.
  
  http://theiglesianicristo.blogspot.mx/2013/02/iglesia-ni-cristo-why-only-1914.html
  

  4. When was their best period of growth? JW/BS have been around since nineteenth century, but their growth before 1945 was slow. Is it similar for the Iglesia.
  
  No idea.

  5. What is the proper short way of referring to them? Iglesia?
  
  INC I believe.

  6. What Bible translation do they use? Since the NWT would probably fit their needs better than mainstream translations.
  
  They use various as needed. They use Moffat's translation to prove that Felix Manalo is the Last Messenger.
  
  Isaiah 43:5-6 in the Moffat version is specially useful to them:
  He will call from the Far East in these last days.
  Far East: Phillipines.
  Last days: Starting when he calls in the far east... i.e. Felix Manalo, from the Phillipines, in 1914.

  7. Are they still growing or in decline?
  No idea. Probably still growing.

  8. Have they received support or persecution from the government?
  
  HUGE support in the Philippines. Because they vote, and more importantly, because they block vote, they are an important political tool. So I guess there is lots of quid pro quo going on.

  9. Do they have a Memorial celebration?
  
  Good question. Not sure.

  10. How does their structure compare with JWs? Elders, circuit overseers, governing body, assemblies, congregations?
  
  Very similar.
  
  According to: http://www.watchman.org/profiles/pdf/iglesianicristoprofile.pdf
  
  Organizational Structure: The group is hierarchical in nature with ultimate authority resting in the Chief Executive Minister (CEM), Eraño Manalo, the son of Felix Manalo. A Church Council of 17 executive officers oversees church matters and issues tagubilin or circulars that cover everything from personal behavior to approved political candidates.

  11. Do they preach and how?
  Not sure.

  12. Do they use Jehovah's name or say it is important?
  No, see below:
  https://iglesianicristoreadme.blogspot.mx/2011/12/is-name-of-god.html
  

  13. Do they teach a paradise?
  Don't think so.

  14. Do they say the "end is near" now or have any prophecy to back it up?
  
  Yes. 1914 was the beginning of the last days. Their eschatology is quite convoluted like the JW's. They try to interpret Revelation in modern times.

  15. Are they creationists? Young earth or old earth?
  
  Young Earth Creationists, see:
  
  http://theiglesianicristo.blogspot.mx/2015/06/is-evolution-scientific-and-will-person.html
  

  16. What's thier views on sex and homosexuality?
  Pretty much identical to JW's. Wrong.

  17. Is there a big community of former members?
  Yes. There is a "jwfacts" for them, mentioned in the article.

  18. Any good books on the subject by former members or academics?
  
  Not that I know of.

  19. How many numbers are these questions going to go up to?
  
  Too many.

  20. What prompted your interest in the subject?
  
  Filipina JW girlfriend, she mentioned them to me years ago...
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  Potential New Article for JWFacts: Iglesia Ni Cristo

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  paul has allowed me to write up two articles for jwfacts: iglesia ni cristo, and why russell was not a mason.here is my iglesia ni cristo article.

  “we believe that there is only one true god, the father, and no one else besides him”.

  thus, faith alone is not enough.. about baptism.

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  tithing. reportedly strictly enforced.

  
  

  Should I put that as a difference?
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  The Governing Body wishes you...

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  happy ash wednesday!.

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  Happy Orthodox Good Friday!

  
  
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  Have a friend who only speaks Spanish and want him/her to learn TTATT? www.verdadtj.com

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  if you have a friend who only speaks spanish, or they speak english but spanish is their preferred language, i am pleased to tell you that there is a spanish translation of jwfacts in progress.

  so far, these are the completely translated articles:asociación de la watchtower con las naciones unidas - un ngo associationcelebración de los cumpleaños - birthdayslas transfusiones de sangre - bloodpredicción fallida de 1975 - 1975¿por qué está mal el ser un testigo de jehová?

  - what's wrong with being a jw?escándalos de la watchtower - watchtower scandalsexpulsión y rechazo - disfellowshippingfolleto general acerca de la watchtower - pdf - general pdf about wtvideo - crecer como testigo de jehová - growing up a jw¿debería estar jehová en el nuevo testamento?

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  Hi Skepsis,

  Sent you a message.
  
  If you want to check out ExJW stuff in Spanish on Facebook:
  
  https://www.facebook.com/ExTestigosDeJehovaMundialMente

  https://www.facebook.com/groups/EXTJEXP/
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  Potential New Article for JWFacts: Iglesia Ni Cristo

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paul has allowed me to write up two articles for jwfacts: iglesia ni cristo, and why russell was not a mason.here is my iglesia ni cristo article.

  “we believe that there is only one true god, the father, and no one else besides him”.

  thus, faith alone is not enough.. about baptism.

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  Here is the preview of the site with the correct formatting, but in verdadtj...
  
  http://verdadtj.com/atalaya/iglesia-ni-cristo-english.php
  
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  Potential New Article for JWFacts: Iglesia Ni Cristo

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paul has allowed me to write up two articles for jwfacts: iglesia ni cristo, and why russell was not a mason.here is my iglesia ni cristo article.

  “we believe that there is only one true god, the father, and no one else besides him”.

  thus, faith alone is not enough.. about baptism.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  I guess I should change it to:
  
  INC disfellowships when members marry outside the church.
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  Potential New Article for JWFacts: Iglesia Ni Cristo

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paul has allowed me to write up two articles for jwfacts: iglesia ni cristo, and why russell was not a mason.here is my iglesia ni cristo article.

  “we believe that there is only one true god, the father, and no one else besides him”.

  thus, faith alone is not enough.. about baptism.

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  ILoveTTATT2

  The article actually states:
  
  

  There are some differences between the religions:

  · INC approves of voting

  · Disfellowshipping for marrying outside the church

  · INC approves donating blood and receiving blood transfusions, but not eating blood.

  · INC members can join the military

  · INC members wear a uniform

  · INC members cannot dance or drink alcohol