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september 22, 1995 p19-23 .
many hardships, many blessings .
I don't know I have a hard time laughing at this... this cult mentality that she spent hours scrubbing floors to buy shoes so she could spent more time selling magazines and books (back then they charged) it's just sad make me want to weep...
wonder where she is now... did she ever wake up? Did she end up working until the day she died due to putting nothing aside for her old age?
yes a great example of a true servent of god... how can these mother f*ckers sleep at night...
spoilers?
for anybody who knows the story of jesus, it should be like watching titanic---the ship sinks, get over it.
spouse: "nobody in the movie saw the hooded creature.
I think the satan/demon dude was sad because he hadn't been able to turn J's away into sin maybe? His look was like "Well I'll be d*mned the mother f*cker pulled it off, well it's off to hell for me." *poof*
Of course I think of Jesus as merely the David Koresh of his day so what do I know!
this woman was later found dead, and it was deemed a suicide after she shot herself in the head.
from the moderate independant (http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i15death.htm).
november 18, 2003 ?
This is how the headline SHOULD HAVE read
Schizophrenic Prostitute Found Dead in Bath
Apparent suicide...
"The story i read about this said that the woman was harassed in all ways. Her diploma dissappeared, her businesses were guaranteed to fail"
Ahe probrably never graduated all you have to do is contact the school you graduated from and get a new one!
80% of ALL new businesses fail. Businesses run by schizo's 100%.
I'm more than happy to discuss the issues in the upcoming elections but lets try to keep the crazies at arms length...
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
Funkyderek- that was one of the best illustrations I have EVER read thanks very much
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
Ok my two cents (or so)
Penny number one! The whole account is a myth the garden of eden existed no more than the white elephant that shat out the universe for the hindu's
Penny number two! The none of the threads that I've read have really hit this issue on the head
First there were TWO trees not one!
9 And out of the ground the LORD God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
God told man not to eat of the tree of good and evil because if he did he would die THAT DAY
17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die
Then the serpent said!
4 But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die"
So the bottom line is that SATAN DIDN'T LIE! Eating the fruit of the tree of good and bad DID NOT KILL THEM! Gods refusing to allow them to continue to eat from the tree of LIFE killed them!
An aside, if I stand out by the street and watch a woman being dragged out of her car right next to me and raped and murdered and her body left in the gutter and I just stand there ten feet away smoking a cig and watching I will be guilty of a crime! I will go to jail! Don't believe it you better check your good samaritin statues in your state. God has stood by with the POWER TO STOP all the crimes in HISTORY he is absolutly the guiltiest POS in history (if he exist)
last thing this is what we should REALLY be debating!
14 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life.
HOW THE F*CK DID HE GO BEFORE!!! HE'S A SNAKE RIGHT?
mark,.
at one time in my career i was exposed to an apostate tape.
i found it very unsettling and began to wonder about the truth.
Mark,
At one time in my career I was exposed to an apostate tape. I found it very unsettling and began to wonder about the truth. But then I went home and actually looked up everything they had talked about. And you know what, they were the liars. Yes, there was a grain of fact in what they were saying but it was very cleverly twisted. I am not saying you have but IF you have listened to "facts" about Jehovah's Witnesses BUT have not done the research you have tasted of poison but not gotten the antidote. You are smarter than that. Do the research. Don't be so lazy. And don't be too proud to change your mind if you find things are different than what you thought. You know we all love you and really do want what is best for you.
SO BEING A GOOD SON I REPLIED!
"And don't be too proud to change your mind if you find things are different than what you thought."
I no longer believe that this religion is the truth. I am not trying to change your beliefs. You are happy with them and welcome to believe whatever you wish. I choose not to, my reasons are my own, there are many of them not just one. As I don't wish to cause waves I don't attempt to discuss religion with the family at all. As to what "apostates" say who cares, believe what you wish. If you have questions then you seek answers, but be aware that if you seek you may just find!
I haven't really heard back from her... what do you guys think?
since the watchtower has regularly disseminated "false prophecy" over the years and has given truly silly reasonings for their beliefs, let's give the society some ideas as to what they might put into the next watchtower.....i'll start----"since the elders are representatives of christ jesus himself, we should give them glory too.
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little1 that was the funniest f*ing thing I've ever read I laughed until I cried BECAUSE I KNOW SOMEONE THAT HAD THAT HAPPEN!!!
They had the book study in their house and were told that the "wild colors" were inaproprate and had to be changed... awesome post!!
what's the most outrageous thing that you were personally told ,while in the organization??
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I heard a sister say that she couldn't wait until the new system so she could stop shaving her legs and armpits because women haveing hairy bodies was a sign of imperfection... I couldn't have agreed more!
what's the most outrageous thing that you were personally told ,while in the organization??
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I was raised in the troof and still have most of my family in so I heard and still here lots of good one's lets see...
In the new system we won't have cars because they didn't have cars in the garden of eden
Wearing bathing suits is wrong, going to the beach and seeing women IN bathing suits is wrong
Oral sex is wrong (this from an 80 year old virgin)
Seeing your wife or husband naked is wrong (this from the same virgin comment during a meeting noone corrected her)
One idiot elder in north jacksonville claimed to have been personaly visited by satan while studying and being offered the ability to play drums on a professional level if he would stop studying (wouldn't that make you study more? what is satan a retard? oh no wait YOU are)
After being abused by a 23 year old the elders aproched me (at age 11 or 12) and said that this guy had come to them and said that I had forced myself on him and they wanted to know why I would do such a thing...
Had an elder get up and for a "local needs" part read an article out of better homes and gardens IN IT'S ENTIREITY with no scriptures or any other comments just read the worldly mag from the platform for 20-25 min
Once had a elder tell a guy dieing of AIDS (this was 87 or 88) that this was god punishing him (no shit he said that right to his face)
The very first time I ever tried to do a door in service the householder stated screaming that I (8 maybe 9) was a murder because I wouldn't let my kids (I was 8 remember) take blood! chased me down the street! He turned out later to be a HUGE pedophile.
Saw a sister slap a kid in the face (hard) in the hall because she said he was lieing to her (he wasn't she just didn't like the answer) nothing said to her she was a pioneer so it was ok
Watching or reading books would make you demonized- this changed every other month harry potter, lord of rings, smurfs, def leopard, you name it
The new blood stuff has been pretty funny to listen too, you can take any part of the blood so long as they've been seperated...
AHHHHHHHH so many memories
and you knew who it belonged to, would you view it as "finder's keepers"?
would you tell the person they just threw away a winner?
would you tell him, hoping for a reward??
as soon as the ticket hits' the trash it's public domain. all mine baby!!!
