that's what my wife thinks anyway.
all i had to do was get that foot in the door.
once it was in it all just rushed through.
Hi Mrs Kwin,
It was a mind boggling thoutht process when I found out I was had too! Spent over 30 years as a JW and an elder for a few years. Take it slow and use 2 Timothy chap. 3 as a guide. Also, be like the Beroeans and examine for yourself.
HappyDad
as i was walking home today (about 7pm) i passed in front of madison square garden.
there, a little boy, about 7-8 years old, hands me some literature.
the literature is eerily similar to a watchtower, but i knew that the people handing them out were not jws.
The "Worldwide Church of God" has split. There are two factions now! The "Philadelphia Church of God" is now the side that agrees with the original "crap" of the founder....Howard Armstrong. His son.......Garner Ted Armstrong has been 'exposed' a couple of times and reinvents his own ministry in Texas. The folks of both factions want nothing to do with Ted, but as P.T. Barnham said........."there is a sucker born every minute".......so Ted continues to bring in $uckers!
You can check both of these factions out by typing their names in KEYWORD.
HappyDad
someone sent me an itinerary of the convention being held oct. 22-24, 2004 at the blue mountain christian retreat, rd #2, new ringgold, pa. this is their 26th convention.
if i didn't live so far away i probably would attend.
there is no registration fee and we are told "everyone is welcome.
Kenneson,
I had all intentions of being at this convention, even to the point of having reservations. But circumstances of life happened and I had to cancel. This was disapointing to me but what can I say? I just hope that those who are there are having a good experience.
HappyDad (of the "Life Goes On" class)
http://silentlambs.org/newsletter/newsletteritem.cfm?sendoutid=294
now heroux has done a year in prison, followed by home confinement for two years on an electronic bracelet, probation for two years and parole for life.
it was later discovered after heroux was newly released from prison that an elder in his new congregation was in the process of arranging for heroux to conduct a bible study with a woman and her two small children.
P.S.
I am now visiting my daughter in Fort Myers, Florida and she just reminded me of some things I did as an elder.
Whenever I would "elder out" and try to do the "right thing", my late wife who was born and raised a jw would tell my daughter........"your father is being an a**hole again!" And you know what? She was right. I only realized that years after the fact. Oh........what one is willing to compromise for the approval of the 'powers that be"!
My daughter knows I would never argue with her as to how I was THEN! But at least...........now........she loves me unconditionally. That is a great reward.
HappyDad
http://silentlambs.org/newsletter/newsletteritem.cfm?sendoutid=294
now heroux has done a year in prison, followed by home confinement for two years on an electronic bracelet, probation for two years and parole for life.
it was later discovered after heroux was newly released from prison that an elder in his new congregation was in the process of arranging for heroux to conduct a bible study with a woman and her two small children.
What is wrong with JW elders??????????? Are they fcking morons????????????
Yes they are Else............
I know because I used to be one! And even though something like this would have made me very upset.......being an elder and wanting to do what I thought was right according to the "standards" I was indoctrinated in, I would have more than likely done the same thing.
But at least now..........I have "sense" and "human decency" and no longer follow a mentally, emotionally and spiritually diseased organisation. I thank God for that! I only hope that any mistakes I made as a JW will not be held against me by humans. I know that God forgives me, but it still hurts when I think about some of the jc's I was on and the decissions that were made.
HappyDad
i'm going to preface these comments with a disclaimer: in no way am i meaning these observations to be inflamatory, exclusionary, or to devalue anyone.
i believe everyone has a right to their opinion, and observations, and to share themwithin the terms of the board.
i also believe that there is learning to be found from a variety of sources.
jgnat,
You are very qualified to post the things you do. You are an asset to this board because you are living it every day.....being married to one! If you didn't tell anyone that you were not a JW.....they would never know. In fact....you know more about what it is to be a JW than some current dubs know! Please keep doing what you are doing.
HappyDad
i just was in touch with her.
she thanks you all for the many cards & letters, she has been moved to the london hospital...she said she has kept all the enverlopes with the addresses on & when she feels better will answer your kindnesses,.
she explained they have changed her anti-depressants-& she is not so shaky---- she realizes it is up to her now-to stop thinking of being the chief executer of herself..... i want to thank you all too.
Mouthy..........this is amazing!
Will do Quotes...Tomorrow I am going to Oakville to see a couple of Jws who were in it 60 yrs -now free!!!
I can only imaging how strongly entreanched they were in the org. But because of the information era on the internet, they were able to see through it. WOW!
Thanks for this news and thank you Quotes for your site.
HappyDad
im thinking of snagging a shirt that says "apostate!!!!
" on the back of it.
then i would walk into a kingdom hall, and put my back aginst the wall.
What happened to the web site where someone was selling the "No 1914" t-shirts?
HappyDad
...that helped the wt to recover after 1975 failure.
all of us could document the written false prophecies of the wtower, 1799, 1874, 1914 -15-18-19-1935-75.by 2000....etc but how about the unwritten ones?
can you document any?.
I remember this one.
Following this there was the implication of the birds multiplying in unusual numbers, which hinted that they were being gathered for armaggedon...
HappyDad
i was reading the post on "old radio" shows, and it brought to mind the old westerns that flooded the t.v.
stations back in the 50's.. i remember the first day we had a t.v.
installed, my sister and i were outside, and saw the "new" antenna on top of our roof, and ran in to watch the "new" black and white t.v., and enjoyed shows like milton berle, howdy doody, and others my memory forgot.
The ones I remember have been mentioned except for ANNIE OAKLEY with Gail Davis. It was one of my favorites.
Non western: How about the original ROBIN HOOD.......CAPTAIN VIDEO (with tobor the robot)........INKY DINK AND YOU (you could buy the screen cover from the show and use your crayons to help make a bridge or something so that the hero INKY could get out of trouble)?
HappyDad
