I do also remember that the accounts report given on the afternoon of the second day of the circuit assemblies never took in the lunch time donations (or even lunch money back when they charged for food). So when they would talk about a "deficit for this convention", it was taking the full expenses for the convention plus the per capita for brooklyn minus the contributions received thru Sunday morning only, but if the noon contributions had been counted, there was usually enough to cover. Of course after this announcement people would pony up more dough that created this surplus.
Then they have the nerve to trumpet the fact they are unlike are religions that don't pass the hat!
mjarka911
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Behind the Scenes: An Elders Point of View
by WTLies ini've been a member of this fourm for quite sometime although i rarely post.
i do however, have my story posted on shauns' site http://jwfiles.com/jws-leaving/william.htm i also wrote and article for that site comparing the prophecies of 1925 and 1975. http://jwfiles.com/1925-1975.htm just a little background on me: i served as an elder in philadelphia.
i was the cong sec.
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Behind the Scenes: An Elders Point of View
by WTLies ini've been a member of this fourm for quite sometime although i rarely post.
i do however, have my story posted on shauns' site http://jwfiles.com/jws-leaving/william.htm i also wrote and article for that site comparing the prophecies of 1925 and 1975. http://jwfiles.com/1925-1975.htm just a little background on me: i served as an elder in philadelphia.
i was the cong sec.
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Luna, I couldn't agree with you more!
I rose only to the level of MS - so my knowledge is limited; but I also thought everyone else was a true believer like me. If anything bothered you - just continue to serve "whole souled" and wait on Jah to correct it, but the more I learned the more I saw that you couldn't reconcile an organization being led by a perfect god with what the jw's were doing. Once that domino falls, the rest come crashing down! -
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Convention Delegates (I use that term loosely)
by mjarka911 ini'm a union firefighter and just went to my first state association union convention as a delegate and it gave me pause about how we were all called delegates at assemblies.
as a delegate to the firefighter convention, i was able to debate resolutions on the floor and in committee as to the diretion of the organization.
then, most importantly, i was able to vote my choice.
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Are there any resolutions this year?
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Convention Delegates (I use that term loosely)
by mjarka911 ini'm a union firefighter and just went to my first state association union convention as a delegate and it gave me pause about how we were all called delegates at assemblies.
as a delegate to the firefighter convention, i was able to debate resolutions on the floor and in committee as to the diretion of the organization.
then, most importantly, i was able to vote my choice.
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That's what I thought too, Sass. Today at the firefighter convention if the "Aye's" shouted out from the convention floor sounded pretty equal to the "Nay's", the chairman would then call for a standind roll call. Imagine if enough witnesses shouted "NO!" to the resolutions at the DC, would the speaker still say the resolutions were "adopted". It's ridiculous - they think they are a united democratic theocracy but are actually a totalitarian cult! It makes the head spin.
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Convention Delegates (I use that term loosely)
by mjarka911 ini'm a union firefighter and just went to my first state association union convention as a delegate and it gave me pause about how we were all called delegates at assemblies.
as a delegate to the firefighter convention, i was able to debate resolutions on the floor and in committee as to the diretion of the organization.
then, most importantly, i was able to vote my choice.
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mjarka911
I'm a Union Firefighter and just went to my first state association union convention as a delegate and it gave me pause about how we were all called delegates at assemblies.
As a delegate to the firefighter convention, I was able to debate resolutions on the floor and in committee as to the diretion of the organization. Then, most importantly, I was able to vote my choice. As a true delegate - I have a say and a meaningful voice.
I contrast this with the meaningless designation of "delegate" at an assembly. Imagine if a resolution was read and, instead of clapping like a seal, you stood and disagreed with the resolution and offered an ammendment to change the direction of the organization (i.e. child abuse, blood doctrine, shunning). We all know a judicial committee would be convened before the day was out and you would be pressed with questions like: Do you believe God is using the FDS to direct the organization? Any answer other than yes and you would risk not being in "good standing".
I know I'm rambling, but it just struck me today that they try to use these democratic constructs like "delegates" and "resolutions" but they are false and empty words!
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360 Furman now a luxury condo bldg (Get out Bethelites so we can sell!)
by mjarka911 ingoogle updates sent me this link: .
http://www.curbed.com/archives/2006/06/07/development_du_jour_one_brooklyn_bridge_park.php .
i would be really pissed if i spent years of my life working to improve this building for the "truth" only to have it sold for a huge profit i never see and then be told to leave.
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Hello dismembered, nice to meet you
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Try to make it to your meetings!
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keep trying to get to your meetings remember the sister who walked 2 hours one way to feast at the spiritual banquet , or the bro who crossed crocodile infested waters to get to his meeting.. anyone remember any other guilt trip inducing illustrations?
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I remember when my old congregation had to change sunday meeting times to 3:30 pm. For decades, they had the KH to themselves and always had morning meetings, but with the influx of Spanish witnesses - 2 new congs had been formed. Suddenly, the Spanish brothers wanted to rotate meeting times (the gall of them!).
So anyway, one elder was complaining and the CO told him about some woman from the Congo who had to start out the night before and traverse 2 rivers, a jungle and several hostile miles just to get to a meeting. The elder replies:
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360 Furman now a luxury condo bldg (Get out Bethelites so we can sell!)
by mjarka911 ingoogle updates sent me this link: .
http://www.curbed.com/archives/2006/06/07/development_du_jour_one_brooklyn_bridge_park.php .
i would be really pissed if i spent years of my life working to improve this building for the "truth" only to have it sold for a huge profit i never see and then be told to leave.
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Google updates sent me this link:
http://www.curbed.com/archives/2006/06/07/development_du_jour_one_brooklyn_bridge_park.php
I would be really pissed if I spent years of my life working to improve this building for the "Truth" only to have it sold for a huge profit I never see and then be told to leave.
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Should I admit to JWs that I am disfellowshipped?
by jwfacts ini know about 2000 jws in sydney, and have 50 that are tax clients, so barely a week goes by without bumping into someone i know.
it seems that few of them realise that i am disfellowshipped because they talk freely to me.
last week i accidently sat next to an elder on the train and we engaged in small talk for over 30 minutes.. should i admit to these people that i am not a jw?.
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I like the choice of not playing by their rules. Think about it if you:
a. Tell them your DF'd, they shun you or
b. Don't tell them. Then they either:
1. Find out and Shun you
2. Don't discover it and continue normal relations
It's their dumbass rules, not your anymore!
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Sunday notes at the District Convention: Avoid an independent spirit!
by truthseeker infinally i am free.
i wandered outside the convention around mid-afternoon, returning for the concluding song, so i didn't get to hear "summary of the botchtower" nor the final talk (which gets all the seals clapping).. .
know that the kingdom of god is near .
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It's funny how, when you look close, you can see the mind contol now. That point about criticizing how things are done is immediaetly linked with "Diotrophes - who wanted the first place". As if legitiment critics of the child molestation policy, blood doctrine flip-flops, UN membership and on and on are the same as complaining because you want to be first.