I agree with KLS.
You made the effort, they can't be bothered.
Forget about them, and get on with your life.
(((hugs))) from Hubert
it appears i am being shunned.
i have been trying to establish a relationship with my father's family back in scotland.
i have sent letters, emails, phone calls, none of which have been returned.. i found out the reasons why too, get this.
I agree with KLS.
You made the effort, they can't be bothered.
Forget about them, and get on with your life.
(((hugs))) from Hubert
based on "official" bible based doctrine, were you "illegally disfellowshipped?
i have been reading many threads on disfellowsipping, and it makes me wonder if there were many who were disassociated, or thrown out of the org.
for reasons other than what the watchtower officially teaches?
Based on "official" Bible based doctrine, were you "illegally disfellowshipped?
I have been reading many threads on disfellowsipping, and it makes me wonder if there were many who were disassociated, or thrown out of the org. for reasons other than what the Watchtower officially teaches?
How did you handle it?
Thanks....Hubert
today, i was on the scene of the local congregation of jw's where my ex-wife and her husband attend.
physical, emotional and mental abuse has been purpetrated upon my kids for eight years now.
they have been victims of alcoholism, verbal bashings and they have been made to watch their stepfather beat the hell out of their mother and then be halled off to jail without saying a word to anyone for fear fo reprisal from him and their mother.
Corvin, Sorry to hear you are going through this with your kids. May it comfort you to know I will be there in spirit rooting you on.
I sincerely wish you the best. Good luck, and God bless you for what you are doing for your children.
Courage, Man !! Keep at it !!!
Hubert
i am wondering... how did you first come across this board?
..... searching the web?
a friend?
Thanks for all the great replies on this thread. I am getting a lot of ideas from these replies, on how to help my daughter out of the clutches of the org., with your true experiences.
I find that this is a subject that I can really work on to help me.
I am benefitting a great deal from your experiences, and I hope I will get many more responses to this thread, as they are all beneficial to my "quest" of seeing my daughter and her husband eventually out of this destructive cult. They may not be baptised yet, but it doesn't matter because they are totally involved in whatever the w.t, tells them.
Sincerely.... Hubert
so dubbies.......do you really believe your dedication is to jehovah .....or to the society?.
...the witnesses are dedicated to god not to any legal agency.... .
...the legal corporation and "the faithful and discreet slave" are not interchangeable terms.
My favorite dumb quote....
"You Can Live Forever" book, Page 191....
"Why can we be certain that God has a visible organization"?
"One reason is he has an invisible organization".
i am wondering... how did you first come across this board?
..... searching the web?
a friend?
I am wondering... How did you first come across this board? ....
Searching the web? A friend? etc.?
Also, what were your feelings at that time?
Hubert
hi i was just wondering, is it really different being in the witness religion as a full- fledged member than when you are studying with them.
are you treated differently or is all this "control" people talk about over exaggerated?
Welcome, Sam and Karategirl !!
Sam, another good site to learn about the Watchtower cult (Yes, it is a cult) is "Shaun's Research". I can't seem to link sites, but if you type in Shaun's Research, you'll find it, or someone else on this thread might bring it up for you. It's a good site for "beginners", like you and me.
Sam and Karategirl, stay with this site too, as you will find tons of info., and tons of good people that will help you to see the "Truth" here. (The REAL truth).
Hubert
.. and it might not seem important to anyone else.
i just put the best cat in the world to sleep this morning, and i feel like a murderer.
he had cat aids, and he was so sick this last year.
Sorry to hear about your "feline friend".
A few years ago, my wife and I had one cat that we truly loved. A small cat, and very, very clean. It was our daughter's cat, and when she moved, My daughter couldn't keep it, so we grudgingy took it in. I'm not usually fond of cats in the house, but this one became another "kid" to us. As soon as I came home and sat in my chair in front of the t.v., she would either jump up and sit on my lap, or on the top of the back of the recliner, next to my head, and just stay there and pur. we'd find her in the funniest places at times, like if you left a bureau drawer open, she'd climb in and go to sleep. In the morning, when my wife would let her in off the breezeway, she would jump up on the bed, give me a tiny 'me'ew, and curl up at my feet and sleep, till I woke up again. On one occasion, she just sat 4 inches from my face, and stared at me until I woke up. What a surprise to wake up and see a cat that close. I gasped, and jumped, and she took off. LOL !! She was great for catching spiders, too. Not one bug in the house. She ended up with feline leukemia, and we had to bring her to be put to sleep. I cried when they handed us the box that she was in. We'll never forget her, and never will find a cat that great again, but we have lots of memories of her. We buried her in our back yard, next to my wife's flower garden. ......((((hugs))))
Hubert
while searching the web, i happened across a site, and discovered it is a pro-j.w.
message board.
as i read some of the posts, i realized that there were a lot of "apostate" posts in here.
Thanks, Stefanie, for the info on that site. I'll stay away from it, too. I won't post on it.
I am getting lots of help on this site, and I wouldn't want to take a chance on hurting anyone here, if that could happen.
Are there any other forums out there that have j.w.'s and ex-j.w.'s on it together, that would be a good site for someone studying with the j.w.'s, to get them to see apostate material, as they are not supposed to do otherwise?
while searching the web, i happened across a site, and discovered it is a pro-j.w.
message board.
as i read some of the posts, i realized that there were a lot of "apostate" posts in here.
Skally <How about posting the link to the site>?
Hubert.... Sorry, Skally, I can't link sites to this post, for some reason. I can give you the information about it, and maybe you could link it for me? Thanks, if you can, and don't mind doing it.
It's an "AOL PEOPLE CONNECTION"
Find.."Message boards".
Click on 'Interfaith"
Click on "Jehovah's Witnesses".
That should do it. It's on AOL only, I believe.
Hope I helped enough... Thanks....Hubert