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  I'm sick to death of talking about the Memorial

  by GetBusyLiving in

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  lets talk about sex or something funny.

  or just make fun of scholar or something.

  gbl

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  Did scholar go to the Memorial this year?
  
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  If JWs Are A Cult, I Believe Roman Catholicism Is Too

  by minimus in

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  i believe that jehovah's witnesses are a "cult".

  to be a "good roman catholic" you have to be "cultic", that's for sure!

  their beliefs and practices, rites and ceremonies are simply weird!

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  All I can say is that if my country was (even only officially) 95% Jehovah's Witnesses I would probably have a tough time as a former witness here. In fact my country is 95% Catholic and I have no problems living here as a former Catholic.
  
  Can you imagine a world with a billion Jehovah's Witnesses?
  
  EDITED to add: This label/definition talk really makes no sense. Let's take a pragmatic view.
  
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  Scholar, 607 and Evolutionary Change

  by AlanF in

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  jehovah's witnesses have recently done an about-face on their teachings about god, the bible, creation and evolution, and are about to announce major changes in their teachings on these things.

  on their website, they say that "faith in god is merely an emotional experience.

  " "god is not an explanation" of the universe, they now teach.. as regards the question of origins, "our universe is all a matter of chance.

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  Great quotes, AlanF. They say it all! LOL :-).
  
  Here is another one from *** w04 2/15 p. 15 Guard Against Deception ***:
  

  8 As Christians, (...), what methods do (we need to ) use to achieve the(...) aim? We (...) often resort to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehoods. Jesus knew that (some of his) his followers would (...) ?tell all kinds of evil lies.?.

  
  
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  I hope this memorial doesnt backfire ...........

  by fleaman uk in

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  well,ive decided to go tomorrow night after all.not to my local cong but another one in the city where i have a very good friend and a few distant family members.i dont agree with much of the orgs teachings or promotions,but i do believe in jesus and really just have a very,very powerful urge to pay my respects to him.. i have been telling my "worldly"girlfriend about the religion and naturally,she is quite interested as this was part of my life since an early age.. blow me down she really wants to come with me!so when she walks into the hall tomorrow and gets a very warm welcome it will possibly shock her,after some of the stranger stories i have told her about the faith(vague stories including no xmas,disfellowshipping,no after school activities etc).i have told her that the welcome she receives will be warm and imho genuine too.she is quite a spiritual person anyway and will enjoy the occasion.. my worry would be that she will enjoy it too much and go to a follow up.it is quite probable.she has never had anything to do with jw,s before, till going out with yours truly .. i,m interested in your comments?.

  thanks for listening.

  flea.

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  Pole

  fleaman,
  
  I can't disagree - I'm sure many witnesses are happy to see new faces at the KH, but this still doesn't make up for the fact that they are misguided. I still don't know which of their beliefs attract you to the Memorial.
  
  I mean, I'm not a Christian so I can't say if Jesus is properly respected there, but I certainly find the whole idea of dividing people into the "participating" and "observing" classes discriminating and rather preposterous. I mean do you really believe many of those few participating will first help Jesus kill 99% of the world (including the members of this forum (apostates)) and then rule the Earth for a thousand years? I guess not. And if not, then what makes you want to go there? Sentiments? Anyway, this may be a personal question.
  
  As for your girlfriend - if you are taking her there I guess you are giving the JWs some credit in her eyes, so she may start thinking the religion is ok and the fault is somewhere with you.
  
  
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  I hope this memorial doesnt backfire ...........

  by fleaman uk in

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  well,ive decided to go tomorrow night after all.not to my local cong but another one in the city where i have a very good friend and a few distant family members.i dont agree with much of the orgs teachings or promotions,but i do believe in jesus and really just have a very,very powerful urge to pay my respects to him.. i have been telling my "worldly"girlfriend about the religion and naturally,she is quite interested as this was part of my life since an early age.. blow me down she really wants to come with me!so when she walks into the hall tomorrow and gets a very warm welcome it will possibly shock her,after some of the stranger stories i have told her about the faith(vague stories including no xmas,disfellowshipping,no after school activities etc).i have told her that the welcome she receives will be warm and imho genuine too.she is quite a spiritual person anyway and will enjoy the occasion.. my worry would be that she will enjoy it too much and go to a follow up.it is quite probable.she has never had anything to do with jw,s before, till going out with yours truly .. i,m interested in your comments?.

  thanks for listening.

  flea.

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  s"but however misguided they are...JW,s (at least in my experience)are pretty genuine.

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Has The CIA Infiltrated The Upper Echelon Of The Watchtower Organization??

  by frankiespeakin in

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  the watchtowers call to all congregations for accountants and lawyers especially those familiar with tax laws makes me seriously think they may be in hot water.

  since the watchtower organization has been very vocal especially in the past about its anti-government stanse and its df'ing of persons that join the military,or other government jobs, i'm willing to speculate that the united state counter intellignece agency has seen the need to sneak some of its agents inside the wt, for internal security purposes.

  also i'm sure that the internal revenue has been keeping a close eye on the gb,, the reason being that they are a huge cash cow, and a dishonest coniving mind control cult.

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  I don't know about the CIA but the communists were much better at that. They attempted to infiltrate the witnesses in the communist block.
  
  Can you imagine there were a few cases of men who became elders and had been agents from day one?
  
  But then, we lived in a totalitarian system which didn't tolerate other totalitarian systems within it. Hundreds of thousands of Poles were recruited for some kind of collaboration with the Security Agency (not always full-time employees of course, but still...).
  
  Same goes for the former Czechoslovakia, Eastern Germany and the Soviet Union. There were even a few cases of wives reporting to the authorities about their husbands for years of their relationships, and vice versa.
  
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  I need an ISO image of the 2004 WT CD

  by nicolaou in

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  2. bible

  i had been sent a copy some months back but the file seems corrupted.

  if anyone here would be kind enough to share a download link or is willing to ftp to my private, anonymous webspace that would be great!

  pm me with questions or offers.. nic'

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  PM ME
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  Slimboyfat

  by calamityjane in

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  check your pm.

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  Pole

  What on earth is going on???

  The JWs might be right.

  Seriously, it seems to be some kind of a "game" (?) People use other poster's names to start a thread and tell them they have PM. Check the active topics. See the pattern? Undertand? Me neither. BUt I think I'll start one of those myself.

  Sincerely,

  Pole
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  Come quickly, Lord Jesus

  by myelaine in

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  i have found myself saying this more frequently lately.

  do you want an end to this system, or do you want proof of god?

  for myself, i am just broken hearted by the state of the world.

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  hi,
  
  For thousands of years people have wished a Saviour (Jesus or whoever else it could be) would come and put an end to such tragedies. Without a single exception, they were all dissapointed. Most of them continued to believe there must be "a secret reason" which stops Jesus from preventing a man from raping his daughter. I personally don't get it.
  
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  When the "Great Tribulation" and Armaggeddon strike How will we know?

  by booker-t in

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  i have always wonder even as a young child growing up is how will we know that the world has entered into the "great tribulation"?

  how will we know when it is armaggeddon?

  will jehovah or jesus announce from the heavens that it is the time?

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  How will we know that the world has entered into the "great tribulation"? How will we know when it is Armaggeddon?

  
  
  Only a select few will ever notice it. These events will take place invisibly. Or did I get it wrong?
  
  Pole - of the "just like in 1914" class