::which church do you belong to rex? ...and don't lie, jesus is watching you.
LMFAO!!!
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9Comparing the 'one, true churches'...
by Shining One inhere is a interesting article on churches that claim they are the one, true church: .
http://www.theholdemans.com/compare.htm .
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Do you still use Jehovah's name in prayer assuming you still pray?
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if you do pray, will you use the name that's above all other names....says the watchtower.. if not, what name do you use?.
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::I've noticed that people from the UK are more likely to say the divine name more than the Americans!
American apostates are basically more demon-possesed than the British ones.
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The 12-Member Governing Body - Pics, info and analysis on the new additions
by Neo inguy pierce samuel herd gerrit losch david splane.
"no more additions!".
"no, no more additions!
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what tetra said. How many of us would think looking at bro Barber: "He's just about to become a heavenly king - a real Jesus' buddy! Wow!".
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Do you still use Jehovah's name in prayer assuming you still pray?
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if you do pray, will you use the name that's above all other names....says the watchtower.. if not, what name do you use?.
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::...By the way, did you know that Satan (not even once!) uses God's name? Not even once!
This is because the name is so holy that Satan might disappear struck with a beam of holy anti-matter by even mentioning it! That's why the name works so well as a demon repellent!
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Poverty in Poland
by katiekitten inim watching the bbc now, and theres a report about ex coal miners in poland.
they have no jobs, and so instead they attack coal trains, hang onto the side and pull the wagon doors open while the train in moving.
then people move in and collect the spilled coal from the side of the tracks.
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::I think im allowed to flirt now you are in the EU?
I'm sure there is even an EU directive on the free movement of flirters ;-)
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Poverty in Poland
by katiekitten inim watching the bbc now, and theres a report about ex coal miners in poland.
they have no jobs, and so instead they attack coal trains, hang onto the side and pull the wagon doors open while the train in moving.
then people move in and collect the spilled coal from the side of the tracks.
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katie,
My suggestion to get started with Poland is: Krakow - Wieliczka - Oswiecim (Auschwitz) - and (possibly) - Zakopane. These places are within a reasonable distance from each other, so you can visit them in a single trip.
Krakow - the second historical capital of Poland. Lots of medieval architecture, old churches, one of the oldest universities in Europe, and a castle with tombs of Old Polish kings and a dragon (according to the legend at least). Krakow is basically the historical heart of Poland. Tonnes of foreigners make a nice atmosphere. Cheap dentists :-) (I've heard lot's of Brits and Germans come here to treat their teeth and travel around ;-).
Wieliczka Salt Mine (World Heritage site) - 1 million tourists per year go there for a reason. "Spread over nine levels, it has 300 km of galleries with works of art, altars, and statues sculpted in the salt, making a fascinating pilgrimage into the past of a major industrial undertaking."
The Auschwit Concentration Camp Museum - I don't think I have to explain much here. A visit to this place may have a "purifing" effect.
Zakopane - a bit further to the south, it's the capital of the Polish Tatra Mountains and the distinctive Polish Highlander ("Gorale") culture. Beautiful mountains, lakes and lots of folk culture.
You could start with Krakow and then see how many places you can visit from there (Wieliczka and Oswiecim are a must, Zakopane is an option).
I live in Lodz (central Poland). Let me know, if you happen to be passing by.
Cheers,
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Poverty in Poland
by katiekitten inim watching the bbc now, and theres a report about ex coal miners in poland.
they have no jobs, and so instead they attack coal trains, hang onto the side and pull the wagon doors open while the train in moving.
then people move in and collect the spilled coal from the side of the tracks.
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Narkissos,
::PARIS - Live in France? Got leaky pipes? The Polish plumber — muscled, square jawed and downright handsome — won’t be there to help.
Hehe. And don't cry for l'infirmiere polognese either! Honestly, the fact that many people in France seem to have bought the Polish plumber argument against the EU Consitutional Treaty (??) has ruined the myth of the democratic maturity of Western societies that I had cherished for some time. Populism may be effective anywhere.
Danny,
I share your view and not just because I'm Polish. I believe "exporting wealth" is the best way to fight frustration and secure your own country's future. Poland has been really screwed up for the 45 years of communist rule, so I guess a temporary wave of Polish workers is a really small price to pay for our contribution to the fall of communism. Although I'm sure you don't get to see it much in your media, Poland is doing a lot to export Western values to the east (Ukraine and Belarus), thus stabilizing this region in the long run and reducing frustration there. (sometimes stabilizing things may require a peaceful revolution, though ;-).
As for Polish workers in Western Europe - there have been waves of Spanish and Portugese workers too when these countries entered the EU. Now it's no longer so attractive for them to leave their own countries looking for jobs. So, it's a small price to pay as I've said. Edited to add from the article linked by Narkissos:Even Lech Walesa, the electrician who became Poland’s president after founding the Solidarity union, provided advice for Adamski before his Paris trip, telling him to ask the French “why the devil they encouraged Poles years ago to build capitalism since as we see now they themselves are communists?”
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Poverty in Poland
by katiekitten inim watching the bbc now, and theres a report about ex coal miners in poland.
they have no jobs, and so instead they attack coal trains, hang onto the side and pull the wagon doors open while the train in moving.
then people move in and collect the spilled coal from the side of the tracks.
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Sorry to have got excited about it, but I've just noticed this:
::Has anyone set up a fund for the unemployed Polish miners?
YES!!! The Polish government. 15,000 USD to each miner made redundant. Sounds good for the start doesn't it? LOL.
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Poverty in Poland
by katiekitten inim watching the bbc now, and theres a report about ex coal miners in poland.
they have no jobs, and so instead they attack coal trains, hang onto the side and pull the wagon doors open while the train in moving.
then people move in and collect the spilled coal from the side of the tracks.
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Avengers,
The beer's here. Cool as ever. And the invitation is still valid. BTW, I visited Maastrich recently. I wonder if you live far away from there.
Poland is a pretty safe and stable place. One problem here is the quality of the roads. SO be carful when you're driving to visit me.
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Poverty in Poland
by katiekitten inim watching the bbc now, and theres a report about ex coal miners in poland.
they have no jobs, and so instead they attack coal trains, hang onto the side and pull the wagon doors open while the train in moving.
then people move in and collect the spilled coal from the side of the tracks.
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Thanks for btt'ing this thread misanthropic. I've only noticed this now.
I'm watching the BBC now, and theres a report about ex coal miners in Poland. They have no jobs, and so instead they attack coal trains, hang onto the side and pull the wagon doors open while the train in moving. Then people move in and collect the spilled coal from the side of the tracks.
They live on less than £2 a day. They are supporting families and children from the coal they manage to scavange and sell from the side of the tracks.
I haven't seen this report, but the problem reported must be a very limited one. Didn't they also show a horse-pulled cart and a bunch of elderly ladies grasping rosaries and praying to a figure of Mary ;-)
For the record: miners are one of the more priviledged social groups in Poland. They have very strong trade unions. For instance they had a special social support scheme when a large number of miners got laid off. According to the scheme they got the equivalent of 15,000 USD when they got fired to start a new life. And 15,000 USD is a lot of money here, because the costs of living are much lower than in Western Europe. You can easily live here making $400 a month. Miners retire after 25 years of work and they get pretty good pensions by Polish standards.
I don't think the report was about ex-miners. Most probably, it was about tramps who steal coal to support themselves (some of them may have been ex-miners especially if it was a report about the Silesia region) .
So don't jump to conclusions. Poland is a relatively safe place to live in in social terms. You get full health insurance even as a homeless person and it's quite difficult to end up as a tramp if you have family.
I saw many more tramps during my last visit to Boston than I've seen anywhere in Poland.
Go figure.
fleaman,
Yes. The "Polish plumber" problem was an example of unjustified French xenophobia. At that time there were only less than 1 hundred Polish plumbers in France (a market of 60,000,000 consumers). On the other hand there are some 250,000 Polish workers in Britain at the moment and they seem not to disturb the Brits too much because they take up the "less attractive" jobs.
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