hi venny- thanks
but you really do need to remember all the good the society has done
- they are the only organsiation on earth preaching the good news of gods kingdom
have you read the "HAPPINESS - HOW TO COPE WITH IT"book?
BADASSOCIATE
well i haven't really posted my story here, for one reason it was too painful to write out.
well, i finally did go and write it up.
it's pretty long so i'll just link it.. http://www.geocities.com/veniceexjw/mystory.html.
hi venny- thanks
but you really do need to remember all the good the society has done
- they are the only organsiation on earth preaching the good news of gods kingdom
have you read the "HAPPINESS - HOW TO COPE WITH IT"book?
BADASSOCIATE
im new to this (or any) board and id like to introduce myself.
ive been visiting this and h2o for about a month now, and it has been so therapeutic for me.
ive been inactive for about 2 years except for memorial and assemblies and those have only been for my siblings sake to help care for an aging parent.. i decided to join in and introduce myself because yesterday i read ozzies great post on restrictions on march 23 pm and got so worked up by past memories of my experience with dfing and going through the humiliation of qualifying for reinstatement.
hi had-enough
mmmmmmmmm aint to many rules you havent broken!
still you've got to think of all the good the society does
BADASSOCIATE
i want to share a perspective, with everyone that comes here to read, for i feel it will take some of us in a new direction.
perhaps it will allow for some creative thinking and interesting discussion or maybe it simply wont go anywhere.
it does not really matter either way, for there are subjects which can only be speculated on and thoughts which can only be shared.
hey where'd you go?
BADASS
lolie - too much fun
BADASS
i want to share a perspective, with everyone that comes here to read, for i feel it will take some of us in a new direction.
perhaps it will allow for some creative thinking and interesting discussion or maybe it simply wont go anywhere.
it does not really matter either way, for there are subjects which can only be speculated on and thoughts which can only be shared.
in the spirit of rebelliously long posts
my theory is that everyone is essentially religous/spiritual - that there is this other dimension within
themselves - an infinite dimension - divinity
so back to the subject:
I think whats going on is confusion between the message and the messenger
what I mean by this is divinity is the message and the prophet - regardless of what faith you want to talk about - is the messenger
maybe it's just that the divinity (message) within these prophets (messengers) was much more transparent than with the average person -
people are attracted
(there seems to be a connection between charisma & divinity)
and they think to gain the divinity (message)
they have to be the prophet (messenger) HIM/HER WHATEVER - SELF
rather than:
be the prophet (messenger) -
by being the divinity (message) within THEMSELVES
they "see" the divinity (message)
as being one and the same as the prophet (messenger)
but it's impossible to be someone else other than yourself
by now your probably thinking
"don't type and smoke"
however ...
i think that when you see the mania that surrounded such figures as elvis marilyn monroe princess diana etc
you're looking at a comparable type of phenomonon
an enormous attractive sense of charisma/divinity emanating from those individuals
everyone wants a piece of it
everyone wants to be it
i think jesus must have had the same thing going on
that's the comparison i'm trying to make here
i dont think jesus (messenger) was saying experience me
i thought he was saying experience my divinity (message)
that is an individual experiencing his/her own divinity
so followers think they have to be the leader
literally almost
to make matters worse it's some kind of collective fantasy Cecil B De Mille version jesus
(to make matters even worse it's a wtbts version jesus)
so (generalizing profusely) the followers - (all the christians) - are trying to be the leader - (jesus) - one person
THIS ONE (FANTASY) STEREOTYPE
because how can anyone be jesus except jesus?!
anyone imagining themselves to be jesus other than jesus
is doing just that
imagining something that they aren't
CUT TO:
SCENE - FROM - THE LIFE OF BRIAN
(no not the INT. COLISEUM - AD 33 - CHILDRENS MATINEE - scene)
this one -
CUT TO:
Brian naked in a first floor window overlooking a Jerusalem back alley circa ad33 - filled with his followers - all of whom hold aloft poles with a sandle tied to the end.
BRIAN
(yelling to the crowd of followers below)
YOU'RE ALL INDIVIDUALS
CROWD
(in unison)
WE'RE ALL INDIVIDUALS!!!!!
you can't be somebody else but if you pay attention to your own divinity you may start to get somewhere
thats the one message (divinity) i think all the different messengers (prophets) were saying
BADASS
i want to share a perspective, with everyone that comes here to read, for i feel it will take some of us in a new direction.
perhaps it will allow for some creative thinking and interesting discussion or maybe it simply wont go anywhere.
it does not really matter either way, for there are subjects which can only be speculated on and thoughts which can only be shared.
JW.com CLASSIC QUOTES
"i guess that would make nostradamus a worthy candidate for the GB if he were still alive."
by dark clouds
BADASSCOIATE
yea - might spoil a few useless habits while i'm there
BADASS
......like being a watchtower salesman.. .
......like (insert your own useless habit that a ba can spoil) .
badassociate.
......like being a watchtower salesman.
......like (insert your own useless habit that a BA can spoil)
BADASSOCIATE
(bad associates spoil useless habits class)
a bozo calling itself "shiningone" recently posted on the h2o board some typically bad arguments supposedly defending the bible.
i posted a rebuttal to a number of specific points, which is reproduced below.
guess what the response was.. those familiar with jw teaching will recognize some of the bad defensive arguments.. <hr>.
ps. alan - i came to exactly the same conclusions talking to heaps of fundies myself.
BADASSOCIATE
(bad associates are a good habit class)
a bozo calling itself "shiningone" recently posted on the h2o board some typically bad arguments supposedly defending the bible.
i posted a rebuttal to a number of specific points, which is reproduced below.
guess what the response was.. those familiar with jw teaching will recognize some of the bad defensive arguments.. <hr>.
alan - sounds like shiningone just cut and pasted responses straight out of the "Happiness - How To Cope With It"
book to me
BADASSOCIATE