Why not simply join Mensa?
You meet people who can think. Superstition isn't required. There are meetings to attend.
1+1+1=3 instead of 1
It's Win-Win
Posts by Terry
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34JW to SDA anyone do it ?
by Introvert 2 ina couple friends pointed me to some info on the sabbath and i just plain like it, being the workaholic i am it's a lifesaver for me and gives me the motivation to be more balanced about my business and work schedule.
so from there i looked into the adventists and found a hall near my place and went last week.
i honestly enjoyed myself and the meeting time is not disruptive and the people were great and pretty laid back.
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The Romans did not crucify robbers
by purrpurr ini've been reading a book called nonsense from the bible.
in it it makes the point that the romans did not crucify robbers.
having since researched this it seems this is true.
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All of which--at this distant remove of years--strikes me as lunatic reasoning.
After all, the Romans were Pagans!
Would you expect Romans to use non-Pagan means of execution??
It's all so laughable.
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The Romans did not crucify robbers
by purrpurr ini've been reading a book called nonsense from the bible.
in it it makes the point that the romans did not crucify robbers.
having since researched this it seems this is true.
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The Jews were not allowed to execute criminals under Roman rule.
How is it then Stephen managed to get stoned to death?
How is it Jesus interrupted the imminent stoning of a woman taken in adultry?
You see--there are worse problems in the NT than you might imagine!
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GEOFFREY JACKSON and the JUNCTION of DYSFUNCTION
by Terry inin the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.. _____________________.
in the watchtower society, there is a point where heaven and earth meet.. 100+ years of historical evidence will show it is a junction of dysfunction; a mental construct; a shadow of imagination indwelling like a spirit of possession.. the shaman who invoke this shadow spirit are seven men in number; an elite cadre of self-described anointed kings and priests whose ultimate destination is heaven itself.. or so they are eager to insist!.
while cloaking themselves in the ragged raiment of mere slaves, their actions, words and deeds betray this subterfuge.
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In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
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In the Watchtower Society, there is a point where heaven and Earth meet.
100+ years of historical evidence will show it is a junction of dysfunction; a mental construct; a shadow of imagination indwelling like a spirit of possession.
The shaman who invoke this shadow spirit are seven men in number; an elite cadre of self-described anointed kings and priests whose ultimate destination is heaven itself.
Or so they are eager to insist!
While cloaking themselves in the ragged raiment of mere slaves, their actions, words and deeds betray this subterfuge. Indeed, this elite Governing Body is the nexus of perplexity and the hub of hubbub.
How so? These 7 pretenders to the throne of God have been sorely tested as to what sort of "slaves" they really are. Christ's description of true Christians as those who have "love among themselves" has been a proving ground of despicable acts of child abuse and executive complicity in what is called misprision of felonies.
What is misprision, gentle readers? It is deliberate concealment of one's knowledge of a felony.
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King Geoffrey Jackson has deigned to appear before the Australian Royal Commission inquiring of responsibility toward victims of child sexual abuse in Jehovah's Witness churches (of Australia). His sworn testimony in now on the books. Let us all confer upon his pronouncements as to what sort of King/Priest 8+million Jehovah's Witnesses must yoke themselves to in abject obedience.
His words were stern. They were also flat and cold, not unlike a coiled serpent on stone, concealed in shadows.
As the shepherds of shepherds, executives in charge of all policies and bylaws, each of the seven Governing Body members is accused or acquitted on "love among themselves" and their flock of 8 million.
How did they fare?
Let us turn our gaze to that damning stack of folders on Judge McClellen's bench. Do we not see, can we not watch the tower as it rises-- a tower of child rape cases unreported to any civil authority numbering one thousand and six?
This tower must be watched--if for no other reason than it is a curse and accusation of malfeasance, indifference, and inhumanity.Can we not hear the hollow, false concern in Jackson's voice? At one moment, he cannot imagine how a child victim of incest must feel when faced with her molester (entirely due to Governing Body edict!) At the next moment he feigns compassionate empathy for what the victims have suffered.
Perhaps if he had troubled himself to read her impassioned pleas or taken a few moments to watch excerpts from the RC hearing we might forgive him his casual befuddlement and detachment. But, no. He could not be bothered. And that icy fact should indeed bother the rest of us sorely!
Why not? His compassion extends only to his own family, apparently.
Any glimpse of actual love for the flock of God on the part of Jackson is buried someplace inaccessible to mere mortals. We who are not heavenly can only shrug our shoulders in disbelief at such a cold, harsh 'divinity' in a man. (Anointed? My ass!)
I would urge you to watch the hearings--as many as you can. Take notes for yourself. Ask yourself time and again as each elder and attorney representing Watchtower interests testifies, do these men actually love the people they pretend to shepherd?
If they do love the flock--where the flaming hell is one spark of evidence in their words and deeds?
Where is evidence of a conscience acted upon?
I fear you'll find none--as I was unable to find a hint, trace or clue of it.
MARK 9: 42"Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea.
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I would love to see that!
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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SUPERMAN'S GLASSES, the perfect disguise for people who think like comic book characters: Jehovah's Witnesses
by Terry inwhat will happen when 8 million jw's look on the witness stand before the royal commission this friday?
will they see superman.
or only clark kent?___________in the comic books, when superman shows up, readers of the comic already know clark kent has made an excuse to disappear.
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What will happen when 8 million JW's look on the witness stand before the Royal Commission this Friday? Will they see Superman. . . or only Clark Kent?
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In the comic books, when Superman shows up, readers of the comic already know Clark Kent has made an excuse to disappear. Neither Jimmy Olson, Lois Lane, Perry White or anybody else is able to see through the ridiculous "disguise" of black, horn-rim glasses.Have you ever thought about what state of mind is necessary for this subterfuge to work?
Whatever that is, Jehovah's Witnesses have it when they look at their Governing Body as though it is Superman but fail to see they are only ordinary men (Clark Kent) who are bumbling nerds.
SUPERMAN'S GLASSES = a special blindness to the obvious, and without it the comic book premise simply doesn't work.
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The Faithful and Discreet Slave is a comic book fiction.
The Governing Body is a kind of alternate identity.
If anybody took even a moment to think rationally they would have to become entirely skeptical, wouldn't they? But, they don't.
How can reasonably intelligent people (8 million) all over the world be so easily fooled?
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Let me tell you a little story which is true, from my life, which best illustrates this blindness. . .
In 1972, I worked for an employment agency as an Employment Counselor who, for a fee, assisted clients in finding a better job with a good company which offered benefits.
One of the other employees at this agency, (ABC Employment Agency) was named John Day. He was one of the most professional people I had ever met. He dressed well, spoke softly with authority, worked well with clients and exuded a charisma most people found irresistible.
He was a total phony! (I didn't know this yet.)
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Long story short, everything I liked and admired about John later turned out to be a pretense, a lie, a swindle and a counterfeit. He was a consummate liar.
I saw him as a fine, dedicated family man. He was a serial cheater.
I saw him as a man of wealth and success. He was "white trash."
I saw him as a great father. He abandoned his wife and two kids and left them in poverty.
I saw him as a professional magician hobbyist who was friends with the great magicians out in Hollywood, and who had a membership to the Magic Castle. None of this was true.
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I won't go into all the details. Suffice it to say, I was completely and totally taken in by John Day whose real name turned out to be John Faris and not Day.
When he was finally revealed to be Clark Kent and not the Superman I had taken him for, I was dumbstruck!
How, I asked myself, could I have been so completely fooled?
The answer to this, as it turns out, is rather simplistic: I took him at face-value. He acted the part. He spoke the part. He dressed the part---and that, my friends--was enough to pull off the charade successfully.
Why SHOULD I have been skeptical?
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What is my point in referencing this failure of perception on my part?
I think the principle of SUPERMAN'S GLASSES is not a mysterious one to understand.
When people look and act the part, we grant them the benefit of the doubt and we sustain our first impression of them.
The Faithful and Discreet Slave present a facade of "faithfulness" which is seen as a rare virtue in this world.
They present a fiction of humility, meekness, and lowliness of mind. This is quite admirable as well.
The Governing Body quite recently have emerged out of the shadows of anonymity. This was after 70 years of constant preparation by text in Watchtower publication. The drumbeat of their connection to Jesus and Jehovah had been steady.
The responsibility of all true Christians in listening to and obeying this fictitious concoction had been building and building into a dynamic crescendo of mythic proportions.
JW-TV flashes their images all over our planet in a constant bombardment of firm determination and resolve.
WHY SHOULD ANYBODY DOUBT THEY ARE SUPERMEN?
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This celebrity status is certainly a myth, but why would any JW see beyond the flat image into the deception?
Hint: it is dangerous to contemplate doing so!
A divine equivalency has been portrayed: Jehovah's Authority = the Governing Body
Kings and Priests who rule with Jesus = the Faithful and Discreet Slave
Loyalty, obedience to the GB = everlasting blessings and reward.
Opposition and skepticism of the GB authority = death at Armageddon and everlasting cutting off.
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Believing in SUPERMAN'S GLASSES brings a potential reward of fellowship with larger-than-life fellowship.
Seeing behind the disguise destroys the fantasy world and all its counterfeit promises leading to disfellowshipment.
Disfellowship brings LOSS of family and friends and hope and paradise. This is a huge gamble and disincentive to skeptical inqurity!
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I don't know if you've ever been dead wrong about a person like I was with John Faris (aka John Day), but it causes such self-doubt and denial, a loss of self-confidence can result which is hard to shake off.
I think 100% of you out there reading my words have experienced this stunning misperception at least once. Perhaps it has only been when you began to "wake up" to the 'truth about The Truth'.
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The thing is, in Superman comics nobody jumps up and points at Clark Kent shouting his secret identity for a very good
reason. The entire fictional world would be destroyed and the premise of Clark Kent would instantly crumble.
Let us hope this Friday, if and when a Governing Body member takes the "witness" stand before the Royal Commission, by the time questioning is over, 8 million people who are looking at Superman will suddenly begin to see how much similarity there is to a mere Clark Kent.
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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"
by Terry ini always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
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It will look handsome sitting on my dust laden bookcase alongside my scale model of a Pennyfarthing bicycle and my Roku device! -
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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"
by Terry ini always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
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I came out of prison thinking memorization of JW materials would make me an "expert in the Truth."
Yes, that was my goal at the time! Today I blush.
There is a political term called "useful idiot." That is really what I was for the Watchtower Society.
DEFINE: USEFUL IDIOT
useful idiot is a term for people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they are not fully aware of, and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause.
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For example, I had memorized Fred Franz's chronology chart (Babylon the Great Has Fallen-God's Kingdom Rules!)
I memorized the 843 scriptures from The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life book.
I could 'prove' (barf!) 1914 by cherry-picking scriptures and using screwy arthimetic.
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Is it Jehovah, Jesus or fallible men who make excuses who are DIRECTING Jehovah's 8 million witnesses?
by Terry inimagine you are standing in the shoes of a person living in the year 1879.. if you were in ireland you'd have heard about an appearance of the virgin mary, st.joseph and st.john the evangelist to locals in the town of knock.. you'd have heard that an inventor, thomas edison, was performing his first experiments on something called a "light bulb.".
reading your local newspaper you'd be astonished to discover that an american aviator, cal rodgers, had actually flown clear across the three thousand miles of the american continent all by himself!.
in the same year a haberdasher's son, charles taze russell, begins publishing zion's watch tower and herald of christs presence.
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I think the best, most accurate accusation we can make of Watchtower leaders is in their failure to actually lead.
In the Branch Manual, they do not consider themselves "leaders" so we can call it self-awareness.What the do is MISlead.
They guess. They conjecture. They opinionate. They vote. They enforce belief.
And finally: THEY ARE WRONG.
No transparency follows as they let the corpses of decaying Truth and Light swarm with flies and maggots while they blithely roll out the next conjecture, painted white for purity and labeled once again "New Light."
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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"
by Terry ini always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
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Marvster: Maybe once in a while we had the daunting misfortune of coming across somebody who could actually 'think' and stop us in our tracks, but that may have seldom been the case... so, we thought we can handle anybody,
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Back in the days of the dinosaurs, when I was a Pioneer, I encountered a Mormon Elder. He cleaned my clock in a religious argument. I was stunned. I really was. This was post parole from prison where I'd had an intensive indoctrination and was at my "sharpest" level or rebuttal skills.
This Mormon Elder was better informed. Who'd have seen that coming?
It snapped me into a meta-analytical mode of thinking.
I began looking at how I was thinking. I quickly realized I was NOT really thinking--I was in my traces like a good plow horse.
That scared me a little bit.
Maybe if I'm realistic in remembering I can see a crack in the facade and a thin ray of sunlight from that incident.
So, that's how it happens after all.