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The request was made by County Attorney Mark Metz. He stated in his request that the premature disclosure of the details contained in the warrant may compromise the law enforcement investigation by causing the search or related searches to be unsuccessful. He added the release of the information could also create a substantial risk of injury to an innocent person or persons or severely hamper the ongoing investigation.

“Due to Prince’s status of having been an iconic popular music superstar, there is and will be continued intense media scrutiny upon the manner and circumstances of Prince’s death,” Metz said in his argument to seal the warrant, and any related documents.

District Judge Eric Braaten ordered the document remain locked up until commencement of any criminal proceedings or 180 days from the date of Thursday’s order."

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

I said I would NOT post this until I saw it on DRUDGE REPORT.

Well, I just saw it.

Prince AIDS Death F

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/prince-dead-aids-cause-of-death/

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

sir827 hours ago

How did Michael Jackson get away with NOT being Disfellowshipped?

MJ was DF'ed in the 80's. Or disassociated. Either way, he was (or should have been) shunned by JWs.
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I have tried to find some kind of citation for the DF claim and have come up short. Do you have anything you could share?

michael jackson letter to elders 1987

Here is a pretty complete article:

http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/michael-jackson-jehovah.php

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

I found this concerning Michael Jackson and Jehovah's Witnesses:

His make up artist for 30 years Karen Faye wrote on her blog:

"When Michael arrived for his photo shoot for THRILLER, two men accompanied him impeccably dressed in suits, who sat over to the side on some cushy couches and watched his every move.

Since this was the first time I worked with him, it didn’t feel appropriate for me to ask who they could possibly be. I thought if he wanted us to know, he would have told us. I just felt their presence throughout the entire day. They left with him as mysteriously as they had entered with him. At the time I really did not give it another thought, because I had no idea of the adventure that was ahead of me.

The next shoot, there again…a mysterious gentleman, sitting in the background.

As our working relationship and friendship began to grow, I asked. He explained to me he was a Jehovah’s Witness. He was very active with the church, and these gentlemen were monitors. They watched over him. He also explained he went to bible study, and spent time going door-to-door teaching the word each week. I had to take pause for a minute and think about that one….

THRILLER had been released by the time he was explaining this to me. “You mean to tell me, that you ring someone’s doorbell, they come to answer it, and there stands Michael Jackson??????” He gave me one of his hi pitched belly laughs…and said, “yeah”. He further explained that he does it in disguise.

“Oh no you don’t.”

Still giggling, he paused and got amusingly serious. “Yeah, sure. After they let me in, they usually begin to look at me funny, so I end up admitting who I am.”

“Wow, I wish I could be a fly on the wall and watch that. I still can’t believe you do that.” I said.

“It is a big part of being a Jehovah’s Witness. We also do not celebrate holidays or birthdays. We believe that we should honor and celebrate these things daily, and not have just one day.”

So I asked “No birthdays. No Christmas?”

“No” he replied.

“Isn’t that difficult, when the world around you is decorating and singing carols?”.

“Yes, Turkle…it is always kind of sad, especially when I was a child, because it looked like so much fun. But it is okay; we have things like FAMILY DAY, where we all get together. There are hundreds of Jackson’s and we all try and be there.”

I could genuinely see the sadness in his eyes and the sense his feeling of loss, not celebrating Christmas with the other kids…so I changed the subject.

One August 29th, we ended up working. Everyone was wishing him Happy Birthday and giving him little presents. He smiled and graciously accepted them. Once we were in the privacy of the trailer, he put the gifts down on the seat, and looked down at them.

“I wish people wouldn’t do that. Please promise me, Turkle, don’t EVER say Happy Birthday to me.”

We were shooting SMOOTH CRIMINAL. I was accustomed to the monitors by now. The filming was going on longer than planned, as usual. We were preparing for a very big scene. Michael was surrounded by the alien battalion in a gully, built on stage 14.

The special weapons and ammunition team had briefed Michael on how to hold the machine gun and fire it. It was the last scene of the evening. Michael was having fun with it, like a little boy playing army. He took a strong stance, and fired as the cameras rolled.

That was a wrap for that evening, and we were given our call time for the next morning.

Michael was a little late arriving the next day. I was waiting in his trailer. He walked in so distraught. I didn’t understand, we were having so much fun the night before. He was silent as he sat in the makeup chair. I had to ask him please tell me. Please tell me what is wrong.

His eyes welled up with tears. “Mother called last night. The church called her, and told her that I held and fired a gun yesterday. They ordered that I have to make decision. I must leave the church, or leave the entertainment industry.” He was weeping as he uttered those words.

I was quite mortified. “What did your mother advise you to do?”

“She felt horrible. She told me it was up to me. She said she would stand by me with whatever I decided.”

“I see, you are here today”.

“Yes”

“Mother is supporting my choice”.

It took a while for Michael to adjust to his choice. He continued to feel uncomfortable with his birthday, but attended fan events in his honor, and truly enjoyed them.

When I was around him during Christmas, he would hide in his own closet to secretly wrap presents. He still held a tinge of guilt. I knew it was difficult for him, but I know he loved all the decorations that NEVER came down. He could freely give his children the birthdays that he never had. I knew deep down inside the Jehovah Witness teachings continued to hold a sacred place inside of him. That is why I was forever torn by not saying “Happy Birthday”. He never released me from my promise to not say it to him."

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PRINCE's Playlist (Only for the curious)

by Terry in

jw
friends

i'm so old, i can remember when these things were called mix tapes!https://drive.google.com/folderview?.

i've compiled the above into .mp3 below:.

id=0b6a8sp5_psf-mfrys0lxcvracwm&usp=sharing.

Terry

Thanks, Talesin.
My problem was that I was JW and a Nerd who never went to parties (except JW parties back in the day when such things existed.)
Even after leaving the Dubs, I never went to clubs or parties or bars.

Pop music didn't appeal to me.
Now that I am older, what Pop music represents to me is that "other" life I never led, or poetically: The Road Not Taken.

I can wax nostalgic when I listen to pop songs because they were everybody else's roadmap in their youth but I never formed emotional connections.

I listened to the entire Playlist, however. I downloaded every one of those files.
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-TkkycGhYMm5NNG8/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-TWk2dDRDc2ZqQWc/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-LU5FQVNuMFdwT2s/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-ZnpoTEM1TEM1dFU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-UTBWaWVXWHZkX3c/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-WXlydDRxb2E2QnM/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-aVhDc2VMUHc3MGM/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-MFc1SzF1Yjh2NVk/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-Zl9xelIxRXJuYTg/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-S19MM0h0M3l0bFU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-cUVmXzZUeUNBRFU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-aXFZVTRyX25iaGc/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-bDJVamJfRXl5Ukk/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-R19lWVRJS3NVVHc/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-bUZNX3JzUU5CaFU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-N2YtbWh0WEVWckU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-c2gxZVV3UV9BVWM/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-RXRfUkotMkNoTXM/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-OE82Z0ZMenNCUDQ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-S3VXVDRRT0R6bkE/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-bTFnVVhyNDR2djA/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-VEZTdmx1TlhGdUk/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6a8Sp5_PSf-d2FGZlpjdEhPTFE/view?usp=sharing

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

What if [and you don't know this] he himself did not see himself as the Celebrity JW ?
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Two things we should be able to agree upon:
1. Prince was a Jehovah's Witness

2. Prince was a celebrity

If we are in agreement on those two things, does it really matter how Prince saw himself IF it was at odds with these two facts?

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Maybe somewhere in his humanness he really was fighting his own demons?

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The most obvious struggle Jehovah's Witnesses have is between their humanity and the control exerted by the Watchtower Society.
Prince was a creative, sexually liberated human straddling the judgmental oversight of fellow JW's and the expectations of his fans.
As we all know, cognitive dissonance allows people like Prince to hold two contradictory sets of ideas and pretend they can live with them.
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He too was just a victim of victims - maybe he desired an escape ?
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A rich man with a mind is a victim?
He is just as accountable as the rest of us, except he has money and privilege which makes life a lot easier if you ask me.
Prince pretty much got away with being a celebrity JW, didn't he?

He was untouchable because of the Governing Body's horror of bad publicity. If Prince desired "escape" all he had to do was publicly announce he wanted to leave and the GB would be powerless to stop him.
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You have let me down on this one !
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Why? Because you don't like the title of this topic? I don't understand your objection. I let the video speak for itself.

How did Michael Jackson get away with NOT being Disfellowshipped?

How did Prince?

The sort of people celebrity JW's turn out to be is not infrequently:
Nutty, eccentric, narcissist, and privileged. They are rich because their fans admire what they do and that is how Capitalism rewards them.
The GB doesn't hold them to the same standards as rank and file JW's and that makes them an Elite.

Why are you so eager to excuse celebrity JW's? They are not better and no worse than any of the rest of us. Hero worship seems to cause people to allow bad behavior with alarming regularity. Is that a good thing?

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Here is what kind of person (Prince) a celebrity JW is

by Terry in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhcparuzpc

Terry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LhcParuzpc

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VETTING your source of information (or, how Conspiracy Theories are transmitted)

by Terry in

i'm not black but i grew up in a black neighborhood.. well--wait!

that's not exactly correct.

i grew up in what was called a "colored".

Terry

It takes a determination and dedication above average to ferret out ambiguous claims, false connectors, tenuous flim-flam and preposterous nonsense when it is delicious, mysterious, titillating and falls in with your own taste for the prejudicial bias.

I gave up wondering how these stories get started when I joined FACEBOOK, because that is about all I see on a daily basis!

People make stuff up and other people repost it--and away we fly!

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PRINCE's Playlist (Only for the curious)

by Terry in

jw
friends

i'm so old, i can remember when these things were called mix tapes!https://drive.google.com/folderview?.

i've compiled the above into .mp3 below:.

id=0b6a8sp5_psf-mfrys0lxcvracwm&usp=sharing.

Terry

I'm so old, I can remember when these things were called MIX TAPES!

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At one time or another, I think most of us have compiled Mix Tapes or Party Tracks.
I went through the above list and listened to Prince's Party mix.

I experimented years ago with making tapes with varying strategies.
The craziest one was the idea of a graduated tempo, which is to say, I began with slow music and track by track accelerated the pace.
It turned out to be a lousy idea.

DJ's are quite popular in clubs and what they do is keep the groove going.
A vast collection of tracks and a good memory and sense of continuity seem to be the most important talent.

What was your best mixed tape strategy?