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WEIRD. . . Dick Gregory talks about the "killing" of PRINCE

by Terry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itjo7voxe8w

Terry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItJO7VOXe8w

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LEARNING how to HATE is a Jehovah's Witnesses' "Christian" duty!

by Terry in

note:.

one out of every 100 jehovah's witnesses is tossed out and 2 out of every 3 are never reinstated.

the law of the land and god’s law through christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship.

Terry

The writers of these articles are quite comfortable with their moral superiority and summary powers

of judgment. It chills the blood how sanguine they've become over the years, holding the power of life and death, as they do, by pronouncing fate behind the door in the Kingdom Hall library.

Star Chamber philosophy is everywhere in this Organization.

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LEARNING how to HATE is a Jehovah's Witnesses' "Christian" duty!

by Terry in

note:.

one out of every 100 jehovah's witnesses is tossed out and 2 out of every 3 are never reinstated.

the law of the land and god’s law through christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship.

Terry

Note:

One out of every 100 Jehovah's Witnesses is tossed out and 2 out of every 3 are never reinstated. Over 70,000 tossed out each year!

Why? Is it because there is little love, forgiveness or tolerance among JW's? Perhaps there are too many elders and rank and file members like this fellow named Diotrephes.

We read:

3 John 9,10

"I wrote something to the congregation, but Diotrephes, who likes to have the first place among them, does not receive anything from us with respect. That is why, if I come, I will call to remembrance his works which he goes on doing, chattering about us with wicked words. Also, not being content with these things, neither does he himself receive the brothers with respect, and those who are wanting to receive them he tries to hinder and to throw out of the congregation."

Elders who practice "pure hate" really like to throw people out of the congregation and label them with wicked words. Where do these elders get such ideas and encouragement?

Observe the following examples.

The October 1952 issue of Watchtower sets the stage for introducing a practice called:Disfellowshipping.
How?
By encouraging readers to consider the specific instance of HATERS of God. The thrust of the paragraph is a call to action on the part of JW members in good standing to DO something.
A binary choice is presented: What you CAN and what you CANNOT do with so-called "haters of God".

Read:

"Haters of God and his people are to be hated, but this does not mean that we will take any opportunity of bringing physical hurt to them in a spirit of malice or spite, for both malice and spite belong to the Devil, whereas pure hatred does not. We must hate in the truest sense, which is to regard with extreme and active aversion, to consider as loathsome, odious, filthy, to detest. Surely any haters of God are not fit to live on his beautiful earth." (The Watchtower, 10/1 1952, p. 599)

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Let us UNPACK all the little modules forced together in this set-up.

JW's are being assured it is OKAY to HATE and that it advisable to do so.

A peculiar binary choice of "hate" is explained.

1.Hate that stems from malice and spite (attributed to the Devil). (So-called:BAD hate.)

2.PURE hate which is justifiable because it is directed toward DESERVING souls who themselves hate God! (So-called:GOOD hate.)

Now that you are advised to hate (the right way) all you need is to have it pointed out WHO DESERVES such "pure hate".
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The answer comes roaring like a freight train in the next month's Watchtower!

"We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. . . . Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship." (The Watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703)

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UNPACK all that step by step and watch how the bomb was constructed. Okay?

The first sentence is densely hitched together in an awkward assembly of assertions.

1."We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization,"

The GB wants you to consider how lucky EX-JW's are they can't be murdered legally by summary execution in today's world of secular law and courts.

Interestingly, the Governing Body seems to envy Muslim sharia law with its "honor killings"! However, they seek "cover" by saying it was the way it was in ancient Israel. Who can argue with that? Hmm?

2. Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship."

NOTE:

What phrase GRANTS PERMISSION to the READER? This one: "...we can take action against apostates..."

But, what is the "certain extent" which is consistent with both theocratic and secular law???

Like Diotrephes, they like to throw people out of the congregation!
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Here it is: The JW doctrine of Disfellowshipping.

The previous article gave JW's permission to express "Pure Hate".

APOSTATES and linked as "God Haters". When you read the word APOSTATE you are compelled to realize it is just former members they are hating on.
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NOTE: Creepy as it reads, over and over we find a drooling preoccupation with "KILL APOSTATES" even though they keep telling us it is "forbidden" to do so reluctantly!

Read this amazing statement which you would hardly associate with people who claim to be like Jesus Christ!
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"Men can spray a field with chemicals that kill weeds but spare crops; too bad they cannot spray cities with bombs that blow the bad to bits but leave the innocent intact." (The Watchtower, 7/15 1955, p. 436)

The beginning of Disfellowship policy really began in earnest in 1952 with the above hateful series of articles.
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Alas, these modern day Diotrephes seem to be in every Kingdom Hall around the world since about 7,000 members are thrown out each year.

What do you suppose Jesus Christ would have to say about this policy and these eager Diotrephes following the GB's instructions?

Here it is right here:

Matthew 5:44-45 "But, I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust"

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I'll repeat the factoid from the top of this topic:

One out of every 100 Jehovah's Witnesses is tossed out and 2 out of every 3 are never reinstated. Over 70,000 tossed out each year!

THERE IS ALOT of HATE being taught to Jehovah's Witnesses and we can read these statistics and see how effective it is.

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"Make America hate again"

by MarkofCane in

“trump is predicting he’ll be able to do all these things, but his workload will be pretty enormous and his power would be so limited by precedent, by the bureaucracy, by the constitution,” said robert dallek, a presidential historian.

“even in trade and immigration, where trump says he will make revolutionary changes, congress has a say on those things.

a lot of people have a say.

Terry

What we will see in the coming battle for the Presidency is nothing less than a mini-revolution and a great deal of pus and blood oozing from the body politic. I really don't won't to hear about what is BAD about either of them. I want to hear ideas and strategies. I won't vote for either of them because I don't want to be responsibile for what happens when one of them gets elected.

Neither of these people should be running anything affecting the lives of millions of folks in this country or, by extension, around the planet.

I've been alive 69 years and I've seen Presidents come and go. I've heard the promises of candidates and the attacks of their enemies. I was born during Harry Truman's Presidency and saw Dwight Eisenhower at the convention against Adlai Stevenson.
I watched the debate between Nixon and Kennedy and heard Johnson refuse to run for another term. I heard the "end of the world" predictions about Barry Goldwater and what was probably the very first smear campaign of fear and character assassination.

Everybody has really nasty things to say about both Trump and Clinton. The level of nastiness is really unhealthy and unfortunate. But there are deep, profound problems with our political system and a day of reckoning is about to be had.

Whichever way it goes--it won't be a good outcome, but the ship of state will sail on, barnacles and all.
This isn't the end of the world. Greece's crisis was supposed to be that. It wasn't.
Whether the U.K. will remain in the European Union or whether North Korea will build a long range missle, or whether Vlad Putin will shoot down a U.S. aircraft---the end of the world is a long, long way off.

This is nothing compared to the E.L.E. of the day of the dinosaur:)

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Crazy timeline of the bible.

by Crazyguy in

it's interesting to me anyway to see what the bible says the timeline of mankind is in relation to reality.

abraham was born roughly 2000 bce .

let's think about this for a moment.

Terry

The Great Pyramids prior to the Flood would surely have been inundated--and yet--

there is absolutely no trace of any such thing. Falsifiable is the word!

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Were you beaten as a child?

by purrpurr in

i've been confronting my mother with her dubious parenting skills (abuse) of me as a child.

particularly the beatings i would get with the wooden spoon.

not a light smack but hitting me as hard as she could for as long as she could.

Terry

I was:

1. Slapped in the face

2. Beaten with a belt on my butt and lower back (still have the scars.)

3. Given ice water enemas

4. Spanked with open hand on my butt

5. beaten with a fist

6. screamed at, cursed as well as given the "silent treatment" for over a year.
7. made to wash my mouth out with Lye soap.

8. Given two tablespoons of Cod Liver Oil

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JEHOVAH's Witnesses Historic BOONDOGGLE

by Terry in

matthew 24:14 and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.. ________________.

north americaninformal.

noun.

Terry

Vanderhoven72 hours ago

Hope you don't mind Terry but I re-posted your opening post on two Delphi forums giving full credit to you of course.

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I've always given blanket permission for reprint on anything I write which may of benefit.

Thanks for sharing it!

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JEHOVAH's Witnesses Historic BOONDOGGLE

by Terry in

matthew 24:14 and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.. ________________.

north americaninformal.

noun.

Terry

Considering how 'recent' this event was, we should be flabbergasted at how easily Jehovah's Witnesses have been able to escape unscathed from such publicity.

We can surely state this with confidence: if it had happened in the age of the Internet, it would have made the Organization a laughingstock on a scale 100 times greater.

As it is, this is the best possible true propaganda to use against them.

The claims made in the"Truth" book were outrageous exaggerations which didn't stand up to the falsification of a mere eight years!
Entire paragraphs were rewritten or replaced.
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"By 1975 civil disorder, anarchy, military dictatorships, runaway inflation, transportation breakdowns and chaotic unrest will be the order of the day in many of the hungry nations."
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Compare all of this nonsense with what was said in 1955:

"The very fact that, as part of Jehovah's secret, no one today is able to find out how much time Adam and later Eve lived during the closing days of the sixth creative period, so no one can now determine when six thousand years of Jehovah's present rest day come to an end."

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JEHOVAH's Witnesses Historic BOONDOGGLE

by Terry in

matthew 24:14 and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.. ________________.

north americaninformal.

noun.

Terry

Matthew 24:14 And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

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boon·dog·gle

ˈbo͞onˌdäɡəl,-ˌdôɡəl/

NORTH AMERICANinformal

noun

1.
work or activity that is wasteful or pointless but gives the appearance of having value.
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In 1968, Jehovah’s Witnesses published a little blue book, The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life.

Inside the book, a controversial claim was made about the year 1975.

Specifically, it was stated 1975 would be “The end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on Earth.” _________

For the next 8 years, Jehovah’s Witnesses distributed 65 million of those books worldwide (for a contribution of .25 cents. (That’s about 16 million $$ dollars worth.) https://news.google.com/newspapersnid=1346&dat=19741218&id=caROAAAAIBAJ&sjid=0PoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7210,5306041

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HOW MANY people were actually warned about this phony boondoggle event?

For those 8 years of “warning” about the impending doom involving worldwide famine and overpopulation, the best Jehovah's Witnesses could do was sell 65 million books, with millions of people yet to be born even while the parents of those babies still were reading them!

18,144,000 babies were born while Jehovah's Witnesses were "warning" about 1975.

WE NEED TO ASK a logical question at this point. Since the majority of Earth’s population weren’t reached:

HOW EFFECTIVE was this ‘warning’?

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Let’s create a “best case” scenario just for the sake of a thought experiment, shall we?

Currently, we’ll say there are 8 million JW’s worldwide, each spending 10 hours a month.

The current population of Earth is 7 BILLION!

How effective can Jehovah’s Witnesses be failing to reach the other 6 Billion each month?

But wait--there’s more!

Women are pregnant all over the world. Every day women are getting pregnant and giving birth.

There are 9 months worth of babies on the way at any moment in time, or (5,013,000 pending).

Each day = 216,000 babies born

Each month = 657,000 babies born

WHAT’s WRONG with this PICTURE?
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The obvious conclusion is this: it is mathematically impossible to fulfill Matthew 24: 14 If God truly was using Jehovah’s Witnesses!

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Note: The little blue book, when reprinted, no longer contained doomsday predictions! Why? Not only was 1975 not the year of worldwide famine and overpopulation, it wasn’t marked by the commencement of the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ! All those man hours were spent on FALSE PROPHECY!

The entire 8 years spent by every member of Jehovah’s Witnesses contacting as many people and baptizing them as quickly as possible was ALL FOR NOTHING unless you count the $16 million dollars made off the contributions for the books or the increase in membership under false pretenses. Honestly, this was all an enormous waste of everybody’s time, energy, and efforts.
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Who set this worthless activity into motion? Where else could such an embarrassing historical failure be rewarded like this? It was the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses under Nathan H. Knorr and Fred Franz. Subsequently, Knorr died and Franz was promoted to the Presidency of the Watchtower Organization.

If you ask any member of Jehovah’s Witnesses today about these events they’ll give you a blank stare and shrug it off as mere propaganda created by former members lying and exaggerating.
But, we know who the real liars are and how feckless their activities are, don’t we?

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1968 EDITION followed by changes in the 1981 EDITION

boon·dog·gle

ˈbo͞onˌdäɡəl,-ˌdôɡəl/

NORTH AMERICANinformal

noun

1.
work or activity that is wasteful or pointless but gives the appearance of having value.

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Crazy timeline of the bible.

by Crazyguy in

it's interesting to me anyway to see what the bible says the timeline of mankind is in relation to reality.

abraham was born roughly 2000 bce .

let's think about this for a moment.

Terry

The fonts don't reproduce when you copy and paste, so go to the link:

http://www.millingtonumconthefox.org/oldtest_files/oldtestrev7.html