Posts by Terry
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579Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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SUPERMAN'S GLASSES, the perfect disguise for people who think like comic book characters: Jehovah's Witnesses
by Terry inwhat will happen when 8 million jw's look on the witness stand before the royal commission this friday?
will they see superman.
or only clark kent?___________in the comic books, when superman shows up, readers of the comic already know clark kent has made an excuse to disappear.
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What will happen when 8 million JW's look on the witness stand before the Royal Commission this Friday? Will they see Superman. . . or only Clark Kent?
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In the comic books, when Superman shows up, readers of the comic already know Clark Kent has made an excuse to disappear. Neither Jimmy Olson, Lois Lane, Perry White or anybody else is able to see through the ridiculous "disguise" of black, horn-rim glasses.Have you ever thought about what state of mind is necessary for this subterfuge to work?
Whatever that is, Jehovah's Witnesses have it when they look at their Governing Body as though it is Superman but fail to see they are only ordinary men (Clark Kent) who are bumbling nerds.
SUPERMAN'S GLASSES = a special blindness to the obvious, and without it the comic book premise simply doesn't work.
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The Faithful and Discreet Slave is a comic book fiction.
The Governing Body is a kind of alternate identity.
If anybody took even a moment to think rationally they would have to become entirely skeptical, wouldn't they? But, they don't.
How can reasonably intelligent people (8 million) all over the world be so easily fooled?
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Let me tell you a little story which is true, from my life, which best illustrates this blindness. . .
In 1972, I worked for an employment agency as an Employment Counselor who, for a fee, assisted clients in finding a better job with a good company which offered benefits.
One of the other employees at this agency, (ABC Employment Agency) was named John Day. He was one of the most professional people I had ever met. He dressed well, spoke softly with authority, worked well with clients and exuded a charisma most people found irresistible.
He was a total phony! (I didn't know this yet.)
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Long story short, everything I liked and admired about John later turned out to be a pretense, a lie, a swindle and a counterfeit. He was a consummate liar.
I saw him as a fine, dedicated family man. He was a serial cheater.
I saw him as a man of wealth and success. He was "white trash."
I saw him as a great father. He abandoned his wife and two kids and left them in poverty.
I saw him as a professional magician hobbyist who was friends with the great magicians out in Hollywood, and who had a membership to the Magic Castle. None of this was true.
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I won't go into all the details. Suffice it to say, I was completely and totally taken in by John Day whose real name turned out to be John Faris and not Day.
When he was finally revealed to be Clark Kent and not the Superman I had taken him for, I was dumbstruck!
How, I asked myself, could I have been so completely fooled?
The answer to this, as it turns out, is rather simplistic: I took him at face-value. He acted the part. He spoke the part. He dressed the part---and that, my friends--was enough to pull off the charade successfully.
Why SHOULD I have been skeptical?
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What is my point in referencing this failure of perception on my part?
I think the principle of SUPERMAN'S GLASSES is not a mysterious one to understand.
When people look and act the part, we grant them the benefit of the doubt and we sustain our first impression of them.
The Faithful and Discreet Slave present a facade of "faithfulness" which is seen as a rare virtue in this world.
They present a fiction of humility, meekness, and lowliness of mind. This is quite admirable as well.
The Governing Body quite recently have emerged out of the shadows of anonymity. This was after 70 years of constant preparation by text in Watchtower publication. The drumbeat of their connection to Jesus and Jehovah had been steady.
The responsibility of all true Christians in listening to and obeying this fictitious concoction had been building and building into a dynamic crescendo of mythic proportions.
JW-TV flashes their images all over our planet in a constant bombardment of firm determination and resolve.
WHY SHOULD ANYBODY DOUBT THEY ARE SUPERMEN?
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This celebrity status is certainly a myth, but why would any JW see beyond the flat image into the deception?
Hint: it is dangerous to contemplate doing so!
A divine equivalency has been portrayed: Jehovah's Authority = the Governing Body
Kings and Priests who rule with Jesus = the Faithful and Discreet Slave
Loyalty, obedience to the GB = everlasting blessings and reward.
Opposition and skepticism of the GB authority = death at Armageddon and everlasting cutting off.
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Believing in SUPERMAN'S GLASSES brings a potential reward of fellowship with larger-than-life fellowship.
Seeing behind the disguise destroys the fantasy world and all its counterfeit promises leading to disfellowshipment.
Disfellowship brings LOSS of family and friends and hope and paradise. This is a huge gamble and disincentive to skeptical inqurity!
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I don't know if you've ever been dead wrong about a person like I was with John Faris (aka John Day), but it causes such self-doubt and denial, a loss of self-confidence can result which is hard to shake off.
I think 100% of you out there reading my words have experienced this stunning misperception at least once. Perhaps it has only been when you began to "wake up" to the 'truth about The Truth'.
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The thing is, in Superman comics nobody jumps up and points at Clark Kent shouting his secret identity for a very good
reason. The entire fictional world would be destroyed and the premise of Clark Kent would instantly crumble.
Let us hope this Friday, if and when a Governing Body member takes the "witness" stand before the Royal Commission, by the time questioning is over, 8 million people who are looking at Superman will suddenly begin to see how much similarity there is to a mere Clark Kent.
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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"
by Terry ini always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
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It will look handsome sitting on my dust laden bookcase alongside my scale model of a Pennyfarthing bicycle and my Roku device! -
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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"
by Terry ini always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
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I came out of prison thinking memorization of JW materials would make me an "expert in the Truth."
Yes, that was my goal at the time! Today I blush.
There is a political term called "useful idiot." That is really what I was for the Watchtower Society.
DEFINE: USEFUL IDIOT
useful idiot is a term for people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they are not fully aware of, and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause.
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For example, I had memorized Fred Franz's chronology chart (Babylon the Great Has Fallen-God's Kingdom Rules!)
I memorized the 843 scriptures from The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life book.
I could 'prove' (barf!) 1914 by cherry-picking scriptures and using screwy arthimetic.
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Is it Jehovah, Jesus or fallible men who make excuses who are DIRECTING Jehovah's 8 million witnesses?
by Terry inimagine you are standing in the shoes of a person living in the year 1879.. if you were in ireland you'd have heard about an appearance of the virgin mary, st.joseph and st.john the evangelist to locals in the town of knock.. you'd have heard that an inventor, thomas edison, was performing his first experiments on something called a "light bulb.".
reading your local newspaper you'd be astonished to discover that an american aviator, cal rodgers, had actually flown clear across the three thousand miles of the american continent all by himself!.
in the same year a haberdasher's son, charles taze russell, begins publishing zion's watch tower and herald of christs presence.
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I think the best, most accurate accusation we can make of Watchtower leaders is in their failure to actually lead.
In the Branch Manual, they do not consider themselves "leaders" so we can call it self-awareness.What the do is MISlead.
They guess. They conjecture. They opinionate. They vote. They enforce belief.
And finally: THEY ARE WRONG.
No transparency follows as they let the corpses of decaying Truth and Light swarm with flies and maggots while they blithely roll out the next conjecture, painted white for purity and labeled once again "New Light."
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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"
by Terry ini always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
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Marvster: Maybe once in a while we had the daunting misfortune of coming across somebody who could actually 'think' and stop us in our tracks, but that may have seldom been the case... so, we thought we can handle anybody,
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Back in the days of the dinosaurs, when I was a Pioneer, I encountered a Mormon Elder. He cleaned my clock in a religious argument. I was stunned. I really was. This was post parole from prison where I'd had an intensive indoctrination and was at my "sharpest" level or rebuttal skills.
This Mormon Elder was better informed. Who'd have seen that coming?
It snapped me into a meta-analytical mode of thinking.
I began looking at how I was thinking. I quickly realized I was NOT really thinking--I was in my traces like a good plow horse.
That scared me a little bit.
Maybe if I'm realistic in remembering I can see a crack in the facade and a thin ray of sunlight from that incident.
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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"
by Terry ini always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
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Terry
I've kept my eyes open today; sort of like a duck hunter :)
I fantasize too.
I can see in my mind's eye one of the Dubs coming back to talk with me.
But--no. Hasn't happened. At least, not yet.
By the same token, I haven't seen our Mormon boys either. I think the hot weather (106F) in Texas is too punishing for guys on bicycles. I should know--I am a guy on a bicycle!I've got my antennae up listening, straining to listen, eavesdropping on everybody's casual conversations . . .
I'm now some kind of voyeur!
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WAKING UP A DUB : effective communication
by Terry inwords that motivate.
our communication has to pass through the mind of another human being and survive what his or her mind is going to do with it!.
wordsby themselveshave to motivate the listener in the same way a combination lock will open if the correct numbers are dialed in exactly the correct sequence.
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I think of it this way: everybody has a right to know reality.
Decisions and choices--in order to be actual decisions and choices--have to be real.
When reality is distorted, what happens? Choices become like spending counterfeit money.
We all want what we want and most of the time reality is harsh, uncomfortable, and daunting.
But--it is NOT A SOLUTION to pretend we have a 3rd choice (unreality) which solves real problems.
This is what Jehovah's Witnesses offer: a 3rd (counterfeit) choice.
How do they do it? They offer black and white views. This or that; Good and Evil.
Guess which side they place themselves on?
If you have an Ex-JW friend who is still living inside of counterfeit choice #3--the only thing you can offer is reality. At least, if you are truly a friend.
"Life doesn't work that way, friend. Here are the real choices: A. B. C. D.E.F."
We live in the EFFECTS we have CAUSED.
If we embrace a counterfeit reality, and our life is shitty--the shit is the result.
Just because we don't like it, doesn't change it or our choices.
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WAKING UP A DUB : effective communication
by Terry inwords that motivate.
our communication has to pass through the mind of another human being and survive what his or her mind is going to do with it!.
wordsby themselveshave to motivate the listener in the same way a combination lock will open if the correct numbers are dialed in exactly the correct sequence.
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WORDS THAT MOTIVATE
Our communication has to pass through the mind of another human being and survive what his or her mind is going to do with it!
Words—by themselves—have to motivate the listener in the same way a combination lock will open if the correct numbers are dialed in exactly the correct sequence. Obviously 4-13-7 can’t open the lock unless they come in specific order: Left- twice around to Right- half turn to Left.
Human beings are far more complex than combination locks. Duh.
Imagine a combination lock with EMOTIONS or PREJUDICES!
(“Did you just say 4? I hate 4! And 13 is a very unlucky number, you imbecile. I’ll accept 7, however.”)
WORDS AND EXTRACTION OF VALUE
Words almost always trigger EMOTIONS. Emotions exactly = values held by the listener.
If you talk to a Southerner about a Yankee or an old black person about the Ku Klux Klan, you release an emotion which exactly equals their personal experiences with those words. Emotions are like a burglar alarm going off warning or signaling something. Emotions can be buried so deep they are beyond our conscious ability to retrieve the reason behind the attached VALUE. You better believe that value IS there!
When a JW thinks about an Apostate, what happens?
A little search engine goes to work looking for VALUE equivalency. Apostate=????
Every message that you bring into the world is subject to the interpretations and emotions of the people who receive it. Like it or not, this is why miscommunication happens.
Have you ever heard about a husband who gave his wife a microwave oven for their anniversary? His intentions are the best, but the way the gift is received is badly interpreted! Once the words leave your lips, they no longer belong to you.
Words undergo extraction of value by the listener which motivates an EMOTION.
_________________________________________________________________________________WHAT IS INDOCTRINATION?
Each time a Jehovah’s Witness receives a signal message from the Governing Body they have been steadily conditioned over many years to drop any personal barriers of skeptical review before taking it to heart as a motivating force. Governing Body = Surrender of Will.
If your doctor prescribes medicine you trust in the physician’s expertise. You take the pill as prescribed with full and automatic confidence of its effectiveness. All of your life the idea of a doctor as somebody with healing skills has been constantly reinforced. So too with Jehovah’s Witnesses. There has been indoctrination targeting issues of TRUST. Who are JW’s supposed to distrust--almost everybody else but Jehovah’s Organization. Outsiders equal the concept of corruption and untruth. The emotion motivated is FEAR.
Along comes an Apostate and what happens? How are words received? Fear and suspicion soon follow.
FIGHT OR FLIGHT
When it comes to communicating with Jehovah’s Witnesses, the critical task, as I’ve suggested, is to go beyond your own understanding and to look at the world from your listener’s point of view. If you self-identify as an Ex-JW, you motivate the Apostasy issues which triggers fight or flight in your listener.
JW’s are partisans. They are also contrarian. The average JW is like a little kid who brags about how his big brother can “beat anybody up.” JW’s are emboldened to go out and do this actively. These are not highly-educated people, but rather, are practiced and conditioned to bait—troll like—and run away if things go against their arguments. FIGHT or FLIGHT is their pattern. The things which they cannot adequately defend against turn out to be mountain-sized lies told to them and accepted as TRUTH.
Now hear this: if you can expose an obvious disconnect between the J-Dub’s trust in TRUTH and the obvious LIE it is built on—the “little kid” has to run back to his “big brother” for help! Suddenly down is up and black is white and the sky is falling!
BULLY SMACK DOWN
We can seek to listen, then understand, and ultimately win over the doubter, the fence-sitter, the straddling skeptic only by beating up their “big brother” because bullies are basically cowards. Make no mistake about it—for all their willingness “to die” for their faith, or allow their own children to expire rather than offend the All-Powerful Oz in the sky—all this is conditioned on the VALUE which has been placed on ORGANIZATION’s ability to tell the TRUTH! The magical, mythical FDS or GB is big brother.
Expose the lying deceit, misrepresentation, and double-speak of their leaders and what happens? The scales fall from their eyes and they wake up! The connection between trust and truth is delicate. It only takes one obvious example to crack the bond.
Creating that wedge and bringing about the crack in trust and confidence brings down the house of cards. The question now becomes, “How is this best accomplished?”
LANGUAGE THAT MANIPULATES
It is very important to explain the difference between language that convinces and language that manipulates. Are you ready? THERE IS NONE!
Read the words of writer Aaron Sorkin:
“There’s no difference. It’s only when manipulation is obvious, then it’s bad manipulation. What I do is every bit as manipulative as some magician doing a magic trick. If I can wave this red silk handkerchief enough in my right hand, I can do whatever I want with my left hand and you’re not going to see it. When you’re writing fiction, everything is manipulation. I’m setting up the situation specifically so that you’ll laugh at this point or cry at this point or be nervous at this point. If you can see how I’m sawing the lady in half, then it’s bad manipulation. If you can’t see how I did that, then it’s good.”
What is Sorkin telling us?
As long as the words of the Watchtower Org aren’t seen to be manipulative by JW’s, those words are CONVINCING because they are trusted to be from Almighty God—but when they are exposed as manipulations by ordinary men—the conviction and trust vanish!Our task is to expose the manipulation and make it too obvious to ignore.
ROYAL COMMISSION = EXPOSED MANIPULATION BY THE G.B.
In recent weeks, the entire Ex-JW community has been electrified by the investigation by Australia’s Royal Commission into child sexual abuse in Jehovah’s Witness churches.
This is by far the most obvious example of how the FDS or GB has lied about being “led by holy spirit” or guided by a Divine Jehovah figure. Logically, if Holy Spirit had any part in channeling JW policy in handling cases of child sexual abuse—well—it’s simply unthinkable, impossible, and instantly falsifying as an acceptable premise!
1006 files certifying pedophile activity in JW congregations were covered up from authorities, police, child protective services as well as blocking psychologists, counselors and all moral support. Rather than demonstrating “love among themselves” the very opposite has been uncovered and brought to light.
TV broadcasts from the RC lay bare how clueless, braindead, non-empathetic Elders inside Kingdom Halls “are only following orders” which prevent their own consciences from operating in a practical, common sense manner. Why? They have been manipulated in an evil way. How? Publications and legal advice from the Watchtower Society deliberately distorted the nature of what it means to be a Christian minister tending the flock of God. Legalistic double-talk has short-circuited reporting an obvious crime to police. Old Testament injunctions have been distorted into Catch-22 obstacles to justice.
Jehovah’s Witnesses will be coaxed, manipulated, urged and threatened into avoiding all contact with this spotlight on corrupt GB activity as revealed in the RC hearings.
The only protection for these lying policies is the total ignorance of Jehovah’s Witnesses. This is where the Ex-JW community can be most effective at destroying the counterfeit bonds of trust. Ex-JW’s will NOT be effective AS APOSTATES. No. In the mind of vulnerable Dubs, connecting Apostate to the RC will nullify any possibility of awakening because the link between FEAR and APOSTATE is too strongly inculcated.
I posit and suggest that we in the Ex-JW community perform our education of the rank and file as anonymously as possible! Otherwise, we are the enemy and they will fight anything we say as being lies, distortions, and Satan-inspired.
TO BE EFFECTIVE, WE MUST AVOID TRIGGERING THE REVULSION and conditioned reflex toward apostates implanted in JW's everywhere.
Fight fire by using fire. Employ the "Theocratic Warfare" principle of "only those who need to know" are told the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Once the JW awakens to the GB manipulation--then and only then--full disclosure is possible.
Only then will it be received, processed and undistorted.
FOR COMMUNICATION TO BE EFFECTIVE IT MUST MOTIVATE.
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"And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"
by Terry ini always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.
i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.
so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".
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azor9 hours ago
Terry how old are they?
Well, I am guessing here . . . Dub number one was probably in his 40's and not too healthy looking. Dub number two was in his twenties, I'd imagine.
I still think they are some kind of Pioneer duo--but they are an odd couple. I can't see them being father and son, though.