Posts by Terry

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Remember when you 1st learned "The Truth"? Want to experience that tingle in a new way?

by Terry in

you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.

belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.

in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.

Terry

This is like going to a David Copperfield show and watching the Statue of Liberty disappear. You know it didn't and yet . . . :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchtwf5Fvhc

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Remember when you 1st learned "The Truth"? Want to experience that tingle in a new way?

by Terry in

you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.

belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.

in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.

Terry

I'm not kidding--you REALLY must stay with it because it doesn't go where you THINK it is going.

This is something different altogether. If you hang in you get a weird thrill at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Zjc5TH0Vs&index=2&list=PLcjQVpaEjyM3gxnx7DZ8fS7nRES0icKyP

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Remember when you 1st learned "The Truth"? Want to experience that tingle in a new way?

by Terry in

you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.

belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.

in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.

Terry

You can't unring a bell once rung.

You can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.

The truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about The Truth' is the death of wonder,

belief, and absolute certainty that YOU KNOW what life is all about. In fact, for most of us the path is the same.

We begin investigating our foundational belief system. Instead of looking for which religion or denomination is teaching the "True" truth from the Bible--we do the unthinkable: we investigate the veracity of the Bible instead!

With great alarm and wonderment our faith and belief crumble before our wondering eyes!
Not even the Bible is the kind of miracle--the kind of supernatural, pristine roadmap to true knowledge from a heavenly being we always believed.

What happens after that? We turn to education in all we neglected as we invariably read up on Science, Logic, Philosophy, and such which inevitably trickles down to the pond of Rational Thinking and Humanism.

Many of us realize there just isn't any Grand Idea behind life; we are all on our own. If there is "meaning" it is because WE put it there. The wonderment, the mystic 'tingle' is dead forever unless we can find meaning in that very act of creating it for ourselves.

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BUT WAIT!

The human intellect is vast when it turns up the power behind imagination and clever resourcefulness.
Today out of nothing but a boring afternoon of poking around on YouTube I found it!

What is "it" which I found?
It is very similar to the crazy, weird and wild ride I had when I was 1st hearing from my Jehovah's Witness buddy all the "secret" information which only those who "Know" explain life in that magical, inside revelation sort of way!

Yes--it was MADNESS--but, as we all know now (and couldn't know back then) the intricate nonsense which makes the "Truth" begin to sound plausible and then increasingly possible begins and a kind of creepy thrill goes down your spine--right?

I'm offering you a CREEPY THRILL!

WHAT IS THAT THING that happens when craziness becomes no longer crazy because it has been explained in a 'certain' way where your rational mind just throws in the towel and your heart beats a little faster?

Well, I'm going to share it with you because it is so much FUN!!

Remember, what's great about this is how incredibly stupid it starts being, in exactly the same way as when you heard the named JEHOVAH and then somebody showed it to you in the Bible and it was just wee bit unsettling.
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The Rules
But there are rules, of course! You can't skip around.
You have to give up and give in and spend 2 hours of your life!
If you can't or won't--then skip this altogether.
Go away and do something profitable--because this is TRULY INSANE, okay?

Sit and watch this documentary from start to finish.
Gradually, bit by bit, little by little, you'll begin to get giddy and feel silly until you are hooked--completely hooked.

But, you can't cheat.
You cannot just stop and say "That's stupid" because I already told you IT IS STUPID!
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What I found delightful was how wonderfully intricate and well-plotted and sincere it all is! This is the kind of cult story plotting which can be enjoyed because there is definitely no danger you'll be sucked in to join. However, you find delight in taking the tour--as it were.
It is so much damned fun I could have delighted in watching people's faces as I told them with total conviction the Earth is FLAT and covered with a Dome!
Then, I'd begin to explain it all to them in the same way every cult indoctrinates people with silly information until a plot--a GRAND STORY emerges every bit as fascinating as a novel or science-fiction film.

If you are inclined to do so, here it is.
IF and ONLY IF you watch all of it please comment. Otherwise, naturally you'll be compelled to ridicule the whole thing. Why wouldn't you? It's totally NUTS in hypnotic, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings kind of silliness which, for me, was just what I needed today :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4YqPtvJao

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WEIRD. . . Dick Gregory talks about the "killing" of PRINCE

by Terry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itjo7voxe8w

Terry

Talesin: I would like to see a 'real' journalistic investigation into this whole thing, including the Bohemian Grove (fascinating, with their huge owl statue

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Here is the book you want to read. It is one of my favorites of all time.

THEM: Adventures with extremists by Jon Ronson

Click on this and read:

http://www.jonronson.com/coldtype_ronson_05.pdf

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0p-e2ng0SI

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"Death will be no more" - ONLY earthly blessing?

by TheWonderofYou in

todays daily text refers to a new?

explanation for doorkeepers that "death will be no more" would only refer to an earthly blessing, because it would be logically according to the text that in heaven no one ever died or death had never been there.

seems like wishful argument for the earthly paradise.. dont forget the 144000 members of the heavenly class that will receive heavenly blessing after death and used for decades rev.

Terry

This video is well-researched and makes a rather stunning point I hadn't thought about before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7tElizrKf0

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WEIRD. . . Dick Gregory talks about the "killing" of PRINCE

by Terry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itjo7voxe8w

Terry

If you know a person is suffering dementia and says inflammatory things, how is it respectful of them or to viewers to put them on the public airwaves? I'm more of the opinion Tavis is listening out of more than pity or respect, but I could be wrong.

Dick Gregory was a brilliant man and in some way we've both seen this sort of thing happen to others such as JW's who are intelligent and knowledgeable but who are driven into fantasy and magic-thinking by religious mania.

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Do do do do do you remember..

by tim hooper in

jw
friends

does anyone else recall the big chart that hung at the front of every kingdom hall?.

it would be about 5 feet x 4 feet.

on the side of the chart, vertically listed, were the months of the year.

Terry

Yes. That would have been about 1959 when 1st laid eyes upon it.
I scrutinized it with outsider's eyes and said to myself, "Statistical fetish!"

Turns out, I was partially right. The other part was "propaganda tool."

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Just Refused Mags from Rich Customer

by snugglebunny in

oh dear.

i have a customer - dave - who gives me frequent and profitable work sometimes.

i'm retired but am happy to do a little bit part-time.. this morning i called to rectify some work he'd had done by a not-so expert "tradesman".

Terry

I stopped for a snack at the local QT (Quik Trip) store and saw a Watchtower lying on the ground next to the trashcan. I reached down to pick it up and realized this is the 1st time in years I've held one in my hands.

First impression?

The Watchtower is NOT the Watchtower of my era (50's --79).

This new incarnation is nothing more nor less than a garish-looking tract!

It was offensive to my eyes. I was once stopped in the L.A. Airport back when Hare Krishna ran rampantly about and a devotee with a 4ft. long tonsure placed a book in my hands begging for a donation. The colors and artwork style of that Krishna book are identical to the Watchtower I held in my hand.

I thought to myself: "Why even bother with these, oh mighty G.B.?"

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WEIRD. . . Dick Gregory talks about the "killing" of PRINCE

by Terry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itjo7voxe8w

Terry

The disturbing part is not that the man fully believes so much racially driven, prejudicial poppycock--it disturbing because there are a large number of media and celebrity people who listen and believe as well.
PRINCE watched one of Dick Gregory's "Truth" videos and started talking about Chemtrails and Illuminati as a direct result.
In this particular community of True Believers, there is no rational, skeptical, logical connection admitted EXCEPT the bizarre!
I worry about people who become parents and pass along this style of thinking and speaking because neither they nor their children will be able to hold a conversation about the difference between subjective assertions and actual testable data.

Having once been in a religious cult, I am retro-ashamed that I was just like Dick Gregory spouting off nonsense just because an Organization bent on teaching weird tales from an ancient book had convinced me of their AUTHORITY and gravitas.

Dick Gregory has lots of gravitas in the Black Community from what I can piece together.
Tavis Smiley is no idiot, but he has interviewed Dick Gregory and listened like a child to everything the man said.

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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe

by Perry in

the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

whatever begins to exist had a cause.

therefore the universe had a cause.

Terry

THOUGHT EXPERIMENT:

Imagine 2 Universes.

The 1st contains absolutely NOTHING at all. Never and always nothing.

The 2nd contains something and is, in fact, THIS universe you and I exist inside.

In the 1st Universe consisting of nothing, who would ask the question, "Why is there nothing rather than something?"

In the 2nd Universe consisting of something, who would ask the same question?

We are forced to conclude, only in the 2nd universe could anyone exist to ask the question about BOTH.

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What is a Universe but a set or category inclusive of "ALL"?

(ALL of something vs. ALL of nothing.)

Perry tells us that God exists OUTSIDE of the universe and the spacetime continuum.
If a Universe is ALL there is, how can anybody or anything exist outside?

The answer is simple. Perry is forced to destroy the meaning of Universe so he can win by

inserting God.
It's like adding additional time to the countdown clock when your team is tied.
AD HOC Fallacy allows you to make up on the spot whatever you need to win!

We pause. . .

In a Universe in which nothing exists, God is inserted from "outside" of everything (which doesn't exist.)
God proceeds to create something out of-----WAIT! Out of what?

EX NIHILO (Out of Nothing)

Pulling a cosmic rabbit out of a non-existing hat is pure magic.

To be consistent, we either have to allow God to already exist WITHOUT Himself have a "cause", or

we have to allow the Universe of Something to exist without having a Creator.

Which is the simplest answer?
1. An already existing something without an even more complex living Being causing it from nothing?

2. A non-existing nothing with an "outside" existing Supreme Being ready to step in and put a created something into that "nothing"?

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1. BEFORE the Universe, this "GOD" wasn't a creator because nothing had been created.

2. BEFORE the Universe, this "GOD" was alone, therefore, He wasn't even SUPREME because you have to ask, "Superior to what or who?"

3. BEFORE the Universe, this "GOD" had no thoughts about anything because there was no anything.
A mind without thoughts of something isn't really conscious.
An unconscious God isn't much of a God at all.