Here we have the EXACT same reasoning by an Islamic scholar answering
a question posed to him as to whether the earth revolves or remains motionless.
you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.
belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.
in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.
Here we have the EXACT same reasoning by an Islamic scholar answering
a question posed to him as to whether the earth revolves or remains motionless.
you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.
belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.
in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.
you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.
belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.
in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.
I guess my sense of "fun"is different.
I never realized how FRAGILE factual knowledge has become in our modern world and how susceptible to disruption and mistrust we become if we aren't on guard.
http://www.space.com/20514-apollo-moon-landing-hoax-poll.html
20 percent of Republicans believe that President Obama is the Anti-Christ, compared with 13 percent of Independents and 6 percent of Democrats who agree. -
Still, about 7 percent of Americans polled in the study think NASA did indeed fake the Apollo moon landings, the study found. Seriously...7 percent.
This Flat-Earth and Faked Moon Landing movement exists mostly among young college age persons who weren't alive when the moon landing took place.
Young people have little life experience. They are highly susceptible to "inside" information.
What do cults and conspiracies have in common?
The Governing Body is what? It is a SECRET SOCIETY with special inside knowledge unavailable to everybody else.
Guess what? We fell for this crap!
The 'anointed' the 'faithful and discreet slave' and the 'remnant' were spooky terms I'd never heard before I began studying with my friend Johnny in 1959.
It all sounded silly. It WAS silly. But after I had heard it a thousand times and began to associate with people at the Kingdom Hall who accepted it as true---the novelty of the stupidity vanished.
Have you heard the old saying, "Perception is Reality"?
That should scare us into vigilance.
These documentary-style propaganda videos on YouTube I posted are manipulative and interestingly so. Maybe not to you--but to plenty of others.
WHY?
Because, if you just let a tiny doubt creep in that you have been lied to--it triggers a survival mechanism!
Us vs. Them kicks in.
Who lied? What else did they lie about?
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jan/20/flat-earth-believers-youtube-videos-conspiracy-theorists
A New York magazine piece on flat-Earthdom is skeptical of some who claim the mantle: “The line between actually believing the theory and enthusiastically entertaining is unclear. Being a Flat Earther exists in the same online space as chemtrails and the notion that 9/11 was an inside job: there are some who believe it sincerely, and magnitudes more who entertain the notion ironically.”
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How does this happen?
Gradually, insidiously and on purpose.
Asking one simple question after another which undermines authority and trust disables our certainty and balance and triggers curiosity about more and more.
Vetting sources and doing research is NOT easy if you are diligent, tireless and thorough. But, if you are lazy, you fall prey to false information and go down the rabbit hole with the rest of the low-hanging fruit,.
You see, lots of very "trustworthy" leaders are j-u-s-t fake enough to lie about a little all the time. If you call them on it and they cover- it- up, you never trust them again.
If we are not wary, once we leave the JW's we can easily become drawn into the next swindle and the next cult and the next phony cause or conspiracy. How?
Our brains have been wired to do so by years of habit!!
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Remember this, to current JW's the "apostates and their videos" are exactly the same as Flat Earth believers!
We are all bent, twisted and messed over in some way as a result of our meat-grinder experience among the Dubs.
It's all too easy.
Being an individual rather than part of a 'belief group' is difficult for many of us.
Every day outside a Control Group is a test.
Like quitting any other habit or addiction, maintaining healthy skepticism without becoming a nutjob just ain't easy! :)
you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.
belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.
in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.
you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.
belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.
in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.
I'm fascinated by the HOW of how people are seduced, persuaded, convinced against their societally conditioned sense of what's true.
If somebody is able to get you to consider for one minute any one thing which you are convinced is true / not true AND POINT OUT a DISCREPANCY--it draws you in.
"How can this be?"
If you watch the above video all the way through--I guarantee you'll be in a tender position of semi-doubt.
That is a joyous and giddy thing!
The off-balance sense of losing your certainty for even a tenth of a second is alluring as hell :)
you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.
belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.
in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.
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For me, Simon, it is the way the riddle is proposed with a quiet elegance and careful tone of non-hysteria and j-u-s-t enough tangible shadows-of-doubts that it becomes like working a Crossword Puzzle in which clues are propounded which cause you to stop and reflect on what you know / don't know.
Please just watch THE BIGGEST LIE video above and you'll see what I mean.
It's quite a fun lark!
you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.
belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.
in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.
you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.
belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.
in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.
I'm not kidding--you REALLY must stay with it because it doesn't go where you THINK it is going.
This is something different altogether. If you hang in you get a weird thrill at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Zjc5TH0Vs&index=2&list=PLcjQVpaEjyM3gxnx7DZ8fS7nRES0icKyP
you can't unring a bell once rung.. you can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.. the truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about the truth' is the death of wonder,.
belief, and absolute certainty that you know what life is all about.
in fact, for most of us the path is the same.we begin investigating our foundational belief system.
You can't unring a bell once rung.
You can't unknow nor can you forget being deceived, tricked, lied to and misled.
The truly awful aftershock of waking up to the 'truth about The Truth' is the death of wonder,
belief, and absolute certainty that YOU KNOW what life is all about. In fact, for most of us the path is the same.
We begin investigating our foundational belief system. Instead of looking for which religion or denomination is teaching the "True" truth from the Bible--we do the unthinkable: we investigate the veracity of the Bible instead!
With great alarm and wonderment our faith and belief crumble before our wondering eyes!
Not even the Bible is the kind of miracle--the kind of supernatural, pristine roadmap to true knowledge from a heavenly being we always believed.
What happens after that? We turn to education in all we neglected as we invariably read up on Science, Logic, Philosophy, and such which inevitably trickles down to the pond of Rational Thinking and Humanism.
Many of us realize there just isn't any Grand Idea behind life; we are all on our own. If there is "meaning" it is because WE put it there. The wonderment, the mystic 'tingle' is dead forever unless we can find meaning in that very act of creating it for ourselves.
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BUT WAIT!
The human intellect is vast when it turns up the power behind imagination and clever resourcefulness.
Today out of nothing but a boring afternoon of poking around on YouTube I found it!
What is "it" which I found?
It is very similar to the crazy, weird and wild ride I had when I was 1st hearing from my Jehovah's Witness buddy all the "secret" information which only those who "Know" explain life in that magical, inside revelation sort of way!
Yes--it was MADNESS--but, as we all know now (and couldn't know back then) the intricate nonsense which makes the "Truth" begin to sound plausible and then increasingly possible begins and a kind of creepy thrill goes down your spine--right?
I'm offering you a CREEPY THRILL!
WHAT IS THAT THING that happens when craziness becomes no longer crazy because it has been explained in a 'certain' way where your rational mind just throws in the towel and your heart beats a little faster?
Well, I'm going to share it with you because it is so much FUN!!
Remember, what's great about this is how incredibly stupid it starts being, in exactly the same way as when you heard the named JEHOVAH and then somebody showed it to you in the Bible and it was just wee bit unsettling.
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The Rules
But there are rules, of course! You can't skip around.
You have to give up and give in and spend 2 hours of your life!
If you can't or won't--then skip this altogether.
Go away and do something profitable--because this is TRULY INSANE, okay?
Sit and watch this documentary from start to finish.
Gradually, bit by bit, little by little, you'll begin to get giddy and feel silly until you are hooked--completely hooked.
But, you can't cheat.
You cannot just stop and say "That's stupid" because I already told you IT IS STUPID!
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What I found delightful was how wonderfully intricate and well-plotted and sincere it all is! This is the kind of cult story plotting which can be enjoyed because there is definitely no danger you'll be sucked in to join. However, you find delight in taking the tour--as it were.
It is so much damned fun I could have delighted in watching people's faces as I told them with total conviction the Earth is FLAT and covered with a Dome!
Then, I'd begin to explain it all to them in the same way every cult indoctrinates people with silly information until a plot--a GRAND STORY emerges every bit as fascinating as a novel or science-fiction film.
If you are inclined to do so, here it is.
IF and ONLY IF you watch all of it please comment. Otherwise, naturally you'll be compelled to ridicule the whole thing. Why wouldn't you? It's totally NUTS in hypnotic, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings kind of silliness which, for me, was just what I needed today :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4YqPtvJao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itjo7voxe8w
Talesin: I would like to see a 'real' journalistic investigation into this whole thing, including the Bohemian Grove (fascinating, with their huge owl statue
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Here is the book you want to read. It is one of my favorites of all time.
THEM: Adventures with extremists by Jon Ronson
Click on this and read:
http://www.jonronson.com/coldtype_ronson_05.pdf
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0p-e2ng0SI