Posts by Terry
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Ask yourself why you don't DESERVE "kindness" (A look a the Watchtower's struggle against "Grace."
by Terry ingraceyou won’t find any in the new world translation!no no no.you only find “undeserved kindness.”(ask yourself why you don't deserve kindness.
?isn’t kindness basic decency?
?if you are one of jehovah’s witnesses you have a reason.jehovah’s witnesses are never on firm standing with their god.
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Corona-virus facts
by Terry incorona-virus facts.
in china, people generally do not wash their hands.
there is no soap in restrooms or even in hospitals.
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Immunologists have cautioned that CARRIERS of the retrovirus DO NOT EXHIBIT SYMPTOMS for the first five to seven days.
The U.S. has NOT stopped flights from China.
Instead, airports are scanning for "fever" (elevated temperature).
Duh.
Who is being paid off?
There is no excuse for this dereliction of responsibility in our CDC.
Look how long they've been aware of the danger:First Travel-related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States
Press ReleaseFor Immediate Release: Tuesday, January 21, 2020
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Corona-virus facts
by Terry incorona-virus facts.
in china, people generally do not wash their hands.
there is no soap in restrooms or even in hospitals.
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CORONA-VIRUS facts
In China, people generally do not wash their hands. There is no soap in restrooms or even in hospitals.
(Only 5 star hotels provide hand soap for tourists.)Doctors treating Corona-virus patients do NOT have proper masks to prevent the spread of contagion to themselves.
Government policy in dealing with contagion is to silence reporting and to arrest patients and reporters to avoid mention of details leaking without administration spin.
The actual spread of Corona-virus was hastened by deliberate failure to warn the public.
SOCIAL HARMONY is an insidious policy requiring zero complaints about anything going on which reflects negatively on Communism or rulers.
Patients standing on line for treatment are collapsing to the floor with virus symptoms.(Note: Chinese medicine does NOT consider the germ theory as a valid part of treatments.
So-called "Traditional" Chinese powders, herbs, elixirs are trusted and contemporary science awareness is practically non-existent.)The rapid spread of Corona-virus was hastened by government officials pretending nothing serious was happening.
Current reporting from "official" sources is definitely NOT to be trusted.
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FYI the proper medical masks to prevent transmission of this respiratory virus is 3M 8210V Particulate Respirator.THE PRICE on Amazon is going up up up UP UP!
OUT OF STOCK because unscrupulous punters have bought them up to sell for inflated prices.Good luck getting any.
There is a new law in China banning the spreading of rumors. This law aims to squelch Social Forums reporting to the outside world what is really going on.
I've been following a fella from South Africa for months on a Vlog who has lived in China for many years.
China has become so inhospitable to foreigners (especially YouTube vlogs) he has had to change his location to avoid arrest.
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Movie Review 1917
by Terry inmovie review"1917".
i so seldom seek to sit inside an actual movie theater anymore.however ...some films are absolutely tailored for it.life of pigravityavatar3 examples of movies which do not translate to your home viewing...at all.good, bad, or indifferent - some films are visual and immersive.. here is a sacred pronouncement:movies are a visual medium.in the hands of an orson welles (i.e.
citizen kane) they are a radio play+visual storytelling medium._____.
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Some films simply cry out for "in-theater" viewing due to the extraordinary nature of the visual design and necessity of a "transformative" experience.
This is certainly a prime example. (No, I don't mean Amazon Prime) :) -
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Have you ever? (Suffered a Great Disappointment?)
by Terry inhave you ever suffered a great disappointment?.
well, meet william miller!______.
time: 1782 (after the american revolution and before the war of 1812).
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We can trace all of it - all the well-intentioned madness - back to Miller.
The roots of Adventism spread wide - even as far as Branch Davidians. -
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Ask yourself why you don't DESERVE "kindness" (A look a the Watchtower's struggle against "Grace."
by Terry ingraceyou won’t find any in the new world translation!no no no.you only find “undeserved kindness.”(ask yourself why you don't deserve kindness.
?isn’t kindness basic decency?
?if you are one of jehovah’s witnesses you have a reason.jehovah’s witnesses are never on firm standing with their god.
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JW celebrities certainly operate as though they are in a totally special bubble
of "grace" from the Watchtower big boys. The stuff they get away with amazes me.
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Have you ever? (Suffered a Great Disappointment?)
by Terry inhave you ever suffered a great disappointment?.
well, meet william miller!______.
time: 1782 (after the american revolution and before the war of 1812).
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Have you ever suffered a GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT?
Well, meet WILLIAM MILLER!
______Time: 1782 (After the American Revolution and before the War of 1812)
Place: Pitts-field, Massachusetts.
There is a family of 16 children called the Miller family.
The firstborn male in that family was named William.
He was born into a family of abject poverty. Little wonder with all those children, you say? Not exactly. Poor families needed to have lots of children to survive by working those kids' fingers to the bone to benefit the household as best as they could.
The Miller family was no exception.
William had little opportunity to better himself in the normal scheme of things other than a rudimentary education. But, he was special.William Miller was a very curious and bright lad who loved reading books! He devoured them whenever he had a spare moment away from his backbreaking chores. He learned as much as he could and became useful in his teen years to the community in which he lived, Low Hampton New York. He became the local scribe. Community scribe was necessary at a time when a great many folks had been too busy at hard work to learn how to read or write. Having a secretary with these skills was indispensable.
William's parents made a strong impression on his character. William's dad had been an army captain in the American Revolutionary War. His mother was deeply pious and a devout Baptist. His Grandfather and two uncles were Baptist Church ministers. Can you imagine the questions a bright young man would have at family gatherings?
In a "children should be seen and not heard" sort of world; how would this be tolerated?When he turned 21, Miller married a woman who had a profound influence on his thinking and his belief system. He married Lucy Smith and moved away from his family ties to Vermont in the town of Poultney.
As is often the case, once a young person leaves the familiar behind them and starts a new life on their own they are more objective and idealistic than before. Newly married William Miller saw things he couldn't like or understand in the hypocrisy of local Christians. He asked many questions and could not abide the answers he was given by local ministers. His giant intellect vomited out mundane explanations and he turned inward.
His easy faith had now been damaged. He questioned everything. He formed a circle of new friends who were not insular Baptists as before. His friends included educated, articulate and refined people who read the works and words of great thinkers such as Voltaire, Paine, and Hume. Miller was irresistibly drawn to "rationalist" thinking and philosophy. He transformed from a humble believer to rational Deist. Whatever/whomever "God" was had created the universe and wiped His hands of it leaving mankind to fend for itself outside the rules of a mere book such as the Holy Bible. Mind you, he was not an atheist. He was seeing God as impersonal and distant to human affairs.
While Miller's profession of faith changed, his outlook on what was ethical and moral was firmly entrenched. He was no libertine indulging the flesh. He remained steadfast and upright in his actions and a leader in the local community well-respected for integrity. Miler served as constable, Justice of the Peace and even sheriff.
By the age of 30, Miller faced the War of 1812 as the Captain of the local regiment of infantry. He met the challenge of the British by facing off with his men at the Battle of Plattsburg.
Battles at that time were largely a matter of two things: how many soldiers there were handy to fight and how much advantage in terrain and experience were available. Miller's infantry was grossly outnumbered 3 to 1 and faced certain defeat. Miller was smart enough to know this. It was unthinkable they should win at such odds against seasoned troops such as the British brought to bear upon them.
Then, events transpired which dramatically seized upon Miller's sense of the divine. The Americans won and the British retreated!! The main cause was the defeat of the British Navy which was the support of infantry columns. The British lived to fight another day by not squandering troops. But, Miller saw it as proof positive that God was truly one who intervened in human history. Perhaps even intervening meant God had a purpose for Miller's life personally.
It was a new William Miller born that day by unexpected events and an imagination fueled by his early belief-system.
Let us stop for a moment and reflect!
William Miller is now a war hero, a natural leader of me, well-respected for his integrity and much appreciated for his intelligence and curiosity. In a world of deeply religious believers, many of whom came from Puritan families, such a man as Miller might seem remarkably blessed against a backdrop of this Epiphany of Belief!
After the war, Miller moved his family back to Low Hampton and began life as a mere farmer. But, deeply troubled in his mind and soul he tried to reconcile his personal experiences with his religious upbringing. He sought solace in attending his Uncle's Baptist church.
Obviously, his family deeply longed to have William join them spiritually without reservation. His Uncle involved Miller in Bible reading before the congregation. The loving support of the crowds and their natural admiration keened him toward a tipping point of inevitable crisis.
According to William Miller's own account, it was in the public reading of Isaiah 53 that it all came together. The focus of this scripture was expounded to explain what Miller had failed to see. God did purposefully intervene in men's affairs to redound to their salvation!! Miller was stricken at his failure to see this previously. He collapsed with emotion only to rise afterward with dramatic self-realization.
Miller's journey was a small circle back to the starting point. He simply became what he had been raised to be all along: a devout Christian Believer. But, now; the full force of his intellect was brought to bear upon it rather than the weak and ineffective emotional succor he saw in others.
What William Miller now threw himself into is predictable in hindsight. He simply did what he always did: he began reading and teaching himself from whatever books were available. Miller was what is called an auto-didact; a self-taught man. Whatever views he might form would be according to his own personality, whims, and imagination rather than conforming to some rigor of schooling or headmaster's influence.
William Miller invented himself and the indelible mark of his theology would be proprietary to his self-educated viewpoint. It is notable that what William Miller sought to do is done again and again every day by perplexed Christians and waffling non-believers alike. It is commonplace and rather naive to simply view it now for what it was.
1. Miller started with the first book of the bible and worked his way through to the end using a concordance only so as not to taint his learning by the opinion of others.
2. Miller tackled the problem of language and interpretation and lack of resources with zeal. Yet, he was baffled by most of the difficult passages. There was little in the way of archeology, hermeneutics, documentary hypothesis or analysis of any scientific structure available at that time. But, he slogged away for 2 solid years!
3. Miller concentrated on what interested him most: Prophecy and especially End Times. This was of the greatest interest to amateurs as always because it concerned them personally and the times in which he lived.
What happens next is most interesting. Miller finished his studies in 1818 at the age of 36. He had bootstrapped himself into a theory about End Times that gave him much cause for urgency. Miller came up with the idea that ONLY TWENTY-FIVE YEARS REMAINED before Jesus would return to Earth and end human affairs!!
The target year was 1843!
Let us stop once again and review.
Plenty of crackpots through history had come up with speculative dates and explanations for when the world would end. They came and the went. What made Miller's crackpot speculations different, you might ask?
Nothing. It was William Miller as a person that is of interest.
It would not exactly be the scholarship or explanation of William Miller that would set events into motion which should concern us here. It is the fact that Miller had credibility, respect, good standing in the community, intellect, high morals, and a strong connection with fellow Christians that should red flag what followed. Miller had strayed from the faith and had COME BACK as a prodigal son which marked him as no flash in the pan. Miller had been a war hero with a story of Divine Intervention on his behalf that made him irresistible to other believers and even non-believers who might sympathize.
Miller had Gravitas! He was one heavy dude. Further, he had natural talent as an orator and preacher of spellbinding ability. He made people listen and he could convince you that pigs could fly so marvelous was his gift of speech.
The disaster that followed was caused by people admiring the talent of other people and wanting a certain outcome in advance to be true! All it took was the suspension of disbelief. Miller gave it to them in spades.
Two things of note now follow.
1. Miller did something that no other preacher had done. Miller propounded the idea that ANY student of the bible of normal intelligence could do what he, Miller, had done without being a graduate of a Theological Seminary. Miller became the first POPULIST preacher of note to move a vast crowd. He empowered the little people rather than making them feel stupid and passive.
2. Miller challenged Authority! It would not be the Church as an institution which would bring about the Millennium Reign of Christ--no! It would be a small band of True Believers unfettered by tradition and pomposity.
3. Miller produced an easy-to-understand system which anybody could grasp immediately. The past mirrored the future. Prophecy of old was a mirror of fulfillment in present times. It was a matter of Dispensations or spans of time which matched present-day events that enabled believers to understand predictions of when the End was to come.
4. Miller produced 14 or 15 iron-clad arguments to persuade belief in his system. He used chiefly Daniel 8:14 and Daniel 9:24-27 to achieve his purpose.
Stop and think!
Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists are today still using William Miller's system and explanations! As ex-JW's we are familiar with the "day for a year" and "weeks of the year" arguments and reasonings. The only changes made today are small and inconsequential ones. The system hasn't been junked at all!
I mentioned to you how smart William Miller was, right? You must know, then, that he knew he was going to be in for a hailstorm of protests, arguments, and criticisms. So, he spent an additional FIVE YEARS perfecting his counter-arguments, explanations, charts, diagrams, and reasonings anticipating every critic in advance!!
Miller's theology, like that of today's Jehovah's Witnesses, was a refutation based counter-attack strategy. For every protest there was a reply; a counter-punch that took you back to scripture. The effect was like watching a fistfight between a professional boxer and small un-trained amateur. It was always a dramatic knockout!
As people now know, Miller's arguments suffered from two fatal flaws hidden from view: wrong assumptions that bedeviled his very premises and the interpretations of meaning in scripture.
In other words, it was as computer programmer often says: GARBAGE IN = GARBAGE OUT.
However, be it noted here something very important. William Miller was an intellectually honest person. He was sincere. He was reluctant. He was not a charleton nor a flim-flam artist. Read his own words:
When I was about my business, it was continually ringing in my ears, "Go and tell the world of their danger...." I felt that if the wicked could be effectually warned, multitudes of them would repent; and that if they were not warned, their blood might be required at my hand."
This is true Christian responsibility!
Having no formal public speaking training, feeling too old, not a preacher by trade, Miller overcame his reluctance.
On the morning of Saturday, August 13,1831 the fifty-five year old farmer promised God something that would go on to change your life and mine.
Read what it was:
"If I should have an invitation to speak publicly in any place, I will go and tell them what I have found."
As he made this very vow his own nephew was racing to his side to deliver an invitation for him to preach the very next day at the Baptist church in nearby Dresden!
Preparation met opportunity and the rest is history.
The result was a vast wildfire enthusiasm unlike anything known in the New World. Audiences went crazy with acceptance and motivation. Invitations galore took him from one church to another as the crowds grew larger and yet larger into huge mobs of quivering, wide-eyed yokels filled with dread, awe and religious zeal.
Revivals broke out and thousands were throwing themselves at the altars embracing Salvation and baptism in preparation for THE END. So successful did this make the local Baptist Churches that they granted him a special license to preach as a Baptist minister in 1833.
An industry was begun with pamphlets, charts and printed sermons. Illustrators sought to depict the events of Revelation soon to unfold on mankind as these publications flooded America like nothing before it. It was crazy--man--CRAZY!!
It wasn't long before half a million people stood nodding in agreement with the rendezvous with Armageddon Miller had foretold. How could it be otherwise? Leading minsters and preachers well-respected in their community came forth with public acceptance and approval of what Miller was doing and this more than triggered the final skeptics into jumping on the bandwagon with mad abandon.
One follower and admirer, Joshua V. Himes helped Miller to publish Signs of the Times and Midnight Cry.
Both influenced sectarian copycats to come.
Millerites is what his followers were eventually called by nay-sayers. After the fact it is claimed only about 55,000 people to 100,000 were true followers of his movement and theology. But, his influence was infectious in many quarters. His methodology was popular no matter what conclusions were reached at the end.
As the dreaded date approached, these 2nd Adventist watchers-of-the-end coalesced into a sect or two of True Believers who could not accept that this might all be a non-event.
Noteworthy is the following:
1. Millerites began characterizing other churches (who did not embrace their end time speculations) as members of Babylon the Great!
2. Eventually, ALL other Christian Churches were seen has clinging to Satan's old world instead of preparing for the New World to come.
3. Christendom was attacked as the whore of Babylon who rejected the only true religion.
4. Followers began divesting themselves of personal possessions, dropping out of schools and selling their houses in preparation of the Great Day to come.
5. The unexpected appearance of a great comet in February seemed a sure sign of what was certain to follow.
THE GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT
I'm sure you can guess
!To his merit, William Miller made a public apology:
"I confess my error, and acknowledge my disappointment." He conveyed this retraction in May of 1844.
"Yet I still believe that the day of the Lord is near, even at the door."
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I indirectly lay blame at the feet of this man for my 20 years wasted in the belly of the beast called Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Ask yourself why you don't DESERVE "kindness" (A look a the Watchtower's struggle against "Grace."
by Terry ingraceyou won’t find any in the new world translation!no no no.you only find “undeserved kindness.”(ask yourself why you don't deserve kindness.
?isn’t kindness basic decency?
?if you are one of jehovah’s witnesses you have a reason.jehovah’s witnesses are never on firm standing with their god.
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I would posit that a Being (no matter how wonderful) would not be "god" if there weren't inferiors (rather than equals).
Logically, if everybody is equal, they can't worship each other nor would there be cause.
The glitch is in the "why". Why would a wonderful Being create inferiors?
God cannot be "god" without worshipers.
Essentially as simple as that.
Extending mercy to inferiors sets aside the necessity of casting final judgment upon them. If you destroy your audience - why put on the play?
A wonderfully written and superbly acted play without an audience is mere self-indulgence.
That's not an attempt at profundity, I assure you :) -
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Ask yourself why you don't DESERVE "kindness" (A look a the Watchtower's struggle against "Grace."
by Terry ingraceyou won’t find any in the new world translation!no no no.you only find “undeserved kindness.”(ask yourself why you don't deserve kindness.
?isn’t kindness basic decency?
?if you are one of jehovah’s witnesses you have a reason.jehovah’s witnesses are never on firm standing with their god.
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GRACE
You won’t find any in the New World Translation!
No no no.
You only find “undeserved kindness.”
(Ask yourself why you don't DESERVE kindness.) ???
Isn’t kindness basic decency??
If you are one of Jehovah’s Witnesses you have a reason.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are never on firm standing with their god.
The “gift” they offer to appease Jehovah is constant service, meeting attendance, counting the hours on a never-ending treadmill - because- He is a “what have you done for me lately?” kind of deity.
Contrarily, the “gift” Jehovah gives His Witnesses violates perfect standards.
(A closer look)
God has the highest standards of “quality control” and that standard is perfection.
For Jehovah’s Witnesses righteousness and salvation are a quality control problem.
You aren’t perfect so you don’t deserve to be shown kindness … especially from Jehovah.
How odd!
This is a Master and slave arrangement where pity tests high standards for justification as to why any kindness at all should be shown.
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(Practical vs Irrational)
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Many (if not most) people say they hate their job - but - they go and do it anyway.
Better than starving, right?
We do what we must do in exchange for what we can’t live without.
Call it a “hard bargain.” To do otherwise is impractical.
The Boss doesn’t have to like you either - but - he has to pay you.
If you don’t please the Boss - he can fire you.
You can sue for wages if he doesn’t pay - but - you can’t sue if he doesn’t like you.
That would be irrational.
For Jehovah’s Witnesses, God has the right to destroy us for our imperfection and He is determined to do so - unless - a hard bargain is struck.
Consequently, a JW is a slave under bondage.
The Slave master is Jehovah. The JW follows orders unquestioning and without independent thought.
“Yassuh Boss!”
To expect kindness from such an arrangement is out of the question!
But as “normal” as this might seem to a Witness - it is way out of step with mainstream Christianity.
Distinctions and differences abound between the Watchtower view of God’s loving kindness and the distortion of motives.
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JEHOVAH IS a SELF-CONFLICTED God
Monstrous parents would starve a special-needs child for not performing
to high standards. Allowances and consideration is basic decency.
Parental love is fundamental to fair treatment.
Unstable people in dysfunctional families are wildly inconsistent, however.
A child would soon learn fear and unpredictability because basic ‘cause and effect’ doesn’t follow reasonable expectations.
Jehovah’s Witnesses live in a dysfunctional family.
Rank and file members in local Kingdom Halls see themselves as special-needs miscreants undeserving and worthless.
Having “inherited” sin - only eternal servitude and unquestioning toil keeps them alive.
They speak of Jehovah as a God of love - but it is at odds with basic decency.If Jehovah God says you don't DESERVE something and yet gives it to you anyway...who is conflicted here?? God is conflicted.
Who is breaking their own moral code? God.
Who is violating what justice is all about? God.
Why - because it is willy-nilly, ad hoc, arbitrary, capricious, and whimsical.
At least - the Watchtower version is all the above.The Watchtower teaching of "undeserved kindness", emphasizes the "undeserved" concept of salvation. (Being saved from God’s anger and punishment.)
Jehovah - kindness is undeserved even though Witnesses struggle mightily to satisfy the long list of tasks, activities, service schedules the Watchtower lays on them.
Jehovah's Witnesses have to earn while they learn, go door to door, attend all meetings, read all the Society's publications and never doubt the Governing Body's teachings.
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So, WHY DO WATCHTOWER TEACHINGS differ from mainstream Christianity?
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For over 100 years, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been wildly erratic about what they teach and believe and the results of the chaotic confusion are like broken auto parts from a junk car the owner struggles to keep running.
What was “Truth” along the highway is just junk (Old Light) and spare parts.
This chaos and confusion begins with a distortion of Old Testament Judaism.In Judaism; only the person you sin against can forgive you!
If you steal from Moshe; only Moshe (the injured party) can forgive you. Or,choose not.
You cannot cut Moshe out of the picture and go over his head, so to speak, and get your invisible buddy in the sky, God, to forgive ON BEHALF of Moshe.
No, according to Judaism, the wronged party holds the key to your forgiveness and your obligation is to him.
The law of the Talon was a law of Justice because of the balance between the injury and the restoring of the injured party to equity. Fairness was key.
There was a system of fines, service and payback that would compensate a victim fairly. JEWISH LAW was PRACTICAL. It was worked out by Moses by constantly having to deal with day-to-day conflicts, arguments, injustices (perceived or real) over and over again. These arbitrations had to be practical to maintain peace.
At the conclusion of the ‘Old Testament’ the world was dramatically changing because Alexander the Great had conquered the world and brought Greek philosophy, law, language, and administration to Jewish society.
New Testament (Judaism)In Christianity where every denomination gets informed by Holy Spirit, grace is all over the place, but, suffice to say:
GRACE intrudes into Judaism and destroys the practicality of the Law.
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Jehovah’s Witnesses can’t deal with the supernatural identity of what the Watchtower terms (lower case) holy spirit.
Christianity terms (upper case) Holy Spirit.
Watchtower says “active force” and impersonal.
Christianity says “3rd person of the Trinity”.
(Discussion follows of Christian grace and how it operates)You can steal, fornicate, lie, cheat and commit mayhem and then turn to God and be forgiven by displaying a penitent heart. Even so late as on your deathbed in many cases. Yet, the people who you took from, injured, belittled, wronged and destroyed have no say in this transaction! The victims suffer the wrongs and God makes it even-steven on the scale of justice!
(Sinning against an “active force” is problematic for J.W.’s)
But, by way of contrast: the unforgivable sin in Judaism makes perfect sense.
In Judaism murder is the unforgivable sin. Why? Because the injured party NO LONGER EXISTS in order to forgive you!____
ANALOGYGo into your garage workshop and construct a chair, then, stand back and say "That is GOOD!”
Next, invite your son or daughter to try it out and the chair breaks-----whose fault was it?
If it is the chair's fault for breaking--should you punish / forgive the chair?
That would be preposterous and silly.
But in Israel, in the O.T. once a year the sins of the people were simply pronounced over a stupid goat and it was sent out into the wilderness.
Why?
The builder of the chair is at fault. But - are you going to blame GOD??
No - so a ritual is created to blame-shift to the goat.In the Old Testament, YHWH’s forgiveness is a ritual reminder : we are in no position to BLAME GOD for our broken chair (even though He created the chair).
Jehovah saves face by granting forgiveness and accepting the stupid blame-shift and the goat as a sacrifice.In the New Testament, you also find the notion that what men forgive is forgiven, and what they don't is not (e.g. John 20:23).
It is a compromise, of sorts. Don’t blame God for being a “special needs” human and he won’t blame you for being broken.
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Fast-Forward to Modern day JW’sSo, why is it JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES do not DESERVE (from God) KINDNESS?
CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:
Jerusalem, near the Pool of Siloam:John 9
Jesus Heals a Man Born Blind
1 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him,
“Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”IMPORTANT:
The disciples ask this question because it reflected rabbinic theology.
The rabbis wrongly extrapolated the general principle that sickness is a result of human rebellion against God (the Fall) to a rigid **casuistic **system which attributed each and every sickness to specific sins. In congenital cases like this one, some rabbis argued that the cause was pre-natal sin by the fetus; others argued that the cause was the mother's sin while pregnant.
(** Casuistry is a process of reasoning that seeks to resolve moral problems by extracting or extending theoretical rules from a particular case, and reapplying those rules to new instances. This method occurs in applied ethics and jurisprudence.)Using a bewildering misunderstanding of Jewish Law, the Watchtower has concocted the following:
The only sin Jehovah can forgive is a sin AGAINST HIMself.
Adam sinned directly against GOD. By proxy Jesus could act the part (ritually) of dying FOR that sin of ADAM and Jehovah could prove he forgives all Adam’s offspring i.e. anointed) by demonstrably raising Jesus from the dead.
Non-anointed are saved - not by Jesus - but by association with the “anointed”, i.e. Governing Body of the Watchtower.
Let that sink in
NO “there” thereThe sin Jehovah forgives with Jesus' death is the “broken chair” sin of ADAM and not every sin all humans throughout history have committed.
Most of THOSE sins were by humans against other humans.
The “broken chair” sin : man refuses to accuse God for being broken
And God, in turn, overlooks their brokenness.
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WTF???
“Forgive us our sins,as we forgive those who sin against us.”
Superstitious humanity was under the false impression that all their misery was passed down generation by generation inescapably.
A man blind by birth was thought to be punished for the sins of his mother and father.
The concept of how traits were inherited was a conglomeration of bad guesses and wrong ideas.
What a pregnant woman (or animal) SAW could actually MARK that baby and change their appearance or condition according to these superstitious people.
Jesus' prayer reflects these ideas. “Forgive us as we forgive.”
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Jews had their notions of forgiveness and YHWH’s love.
Catholic Christians had their notions.
Martin Luther had “grace” notions.
Jehovah’s Witnesses have their teachings.
AS AN EX-JW - I have come to terms with superstitions and the whole idea
There is any “TRUTH” as a teaching in the Bible.
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Hellooooo! 6 years since i posted
by Aussie Oz inso... it has been six years since my last post.
i wonder who still remembers me?
a lot has changed and then again, a lot has not.... i'm still out of course as are my children who are doing very well.
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Terry
Welcome back to the flock, Aussie Oz.
Long time no see. What's up?