Younger JW's (the most recent generation) do not have a clue about the trail of broken promises, bad calls, revised policies, cover-ups, scandals, and outright denials which go unpunished from start to finish.
J.F. Rutherford died a pain in the ass WITH a pain in the ass. That's as close as you can get to Karma.
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by Terry inif you were a religious organization publicly identified with predictingarmageddon soon, would you be motivated to build large and expensive edifices or hideaways in foreign lands?such as:a $ 1,425,400 property in which a welsh translation center could be maintained?.
this looks like a pleasant location for doomsday, doesn’t it?.
maybe just a fortunate location for.
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STUPID is the LEAST of our problems ...
by Terry inrefusing to social distance?
declining to wear a mask?stupid people wallowing in a giant puddle of stupidity?
maybe / maybe not.i’ll tell you what i think …it may be fundamental defiance instead.how does that work??
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Refusing to Social Distance?
Declining to wear a mask?
Stupid people wallowing in a giant puddle of Stupidity?
Maybe / maybe not.
I’ll tell you what I think …
It may be fundamental DEFIANCE instead.
How does THAT work?? You may well ask.
Let’s look at the beginning of distrust back in May..
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the executive director of the health emergency programme at the World Health Organization, Dr Michael Ryan, said during a briefing: “There are limits to how a mask can protect you from being infected. The most important thing everyone can do is wash your hands, keep your hands away from your face and observe very precise hygiene.”He added: “Not having a mask does not necessarily put you at any increased risk of contracting this disease.”
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An infection prevention specialist, Dr Eli Perencevich, has said that healthy people should not wear masks at all — whether surgical masks, N95 masks, or respirator masks.Dr Perencevich said: “The average healthy person does not need to have a mask, and they shouldn’t be wearing masks. There’s no evidence that wearing masks on healthy people will protect them. They wear them incorrectly, and they can increase the risk of infection because
they’re touching their face more often.”
A husband who has an affair, lies about and then claims the moral high ground by saying,
“Well, I came out and confessed - didn’t I?”
Can’t expect ever to be trusted again - can he?
Experts owe honesty before trust can be conferred.
A “confused” Expert is not an Expert to be trusted.
A lying Expert (who lies for “good reasons) can’t expect to have his advice followed. Does that justify NOT wearing a mask? No - but it helps EXPLAIN the defiance.
SECOND PROBLEM
RICH vs POOR
Rich People can afford a shutdown - Poor People cannot.The lecturing tone of rich persons wagging their self-righteous, well-manicured fingers in the face of people who can't pay their mortgage or afford health care are triggering defiance, resentment, and anger.
Shutting down low-income people who've lost their jobs has snapped the thin thread of a connection with self-respect.
Political Leaders who are filthy rich love to virtue signal how compliant they are.
"Stay inside" (if you're Nancy Pelosi standing in front of two stainless steel freezers with fabulously expensive ice cream on display), is a message to trigger contrast of class disparity.
"Let them eat cake" is the message in the ears of penniless wage-earners.
People with F.U.money; corrupt political leaders,the hectoring elites -
PUSH the button of DEFIANCE in the underclass.
Both Republicans AND Democrats have only come to the rescue of BIG MONEY, Banks, Wall Street and Corporations to the tune of Millions, Billions, and Trillions of $$
And what do they do for the poor?
“Here’s $1200 bucks. Shut up and be grateful.”I can't read Trump's mind but his "man of the people" brand won the last election and I'd risk a guess he's posturing a Mask-free attitude to remain in the public eye as insubordinate to the end.
Just to be clear about it - wearing a mask is to protect the OTHERS from your own droplets. Most of the chatter I hear is just the opposite.
I WEAR A MASK. It can’t hurt. It might help. End of story for me.
However, more is going on than social distancing ...and masks ...The pandemic of 1918 Spanish Influenza created a 2nd wave after a subsidence period.
When that tide goes out...way way out ...and all those fish are flopping in the sand ....just....before...the Tsunami ...
Well THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
A revolution is coming. Maybe 3 different revolutions simultaneously
1. Rich vs Poor
2. Black vs White
3. Political Correctness vs Go F-yourselfEverybody is in the mood to lecture everybody else - but NOT to LISTEN..
Defiance is not stupidity - it is much, much worse - it is the last stand on the last hill in the last battle of the last war civilization will ever fight. DEFIANCE is to be condemned - but shouldn’t be unexpected.
Stupidity is the least of the problems we face.
WE FACE REVOLUTION destroying everything in the misguided guise of improving everything.
And nobody can stop it from happening. Not with a mask. Not with 10 feet of distance.
Not with a vote for the “right” candidate.
We are broken and barbarians are at our gate…
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Beth Sarim and Beth Shan - other boondoggles
by Terry inif you were a religious organization publicly identified with predictingarmageddon soon, would you be motivated to build large and expensive edifices or hideaways in foreign lands?such as:a $ 1,425,400 property in which a welsh translation center could be maintained?.
this looks like a pleasant location for doomsday, doesn’t it?.
maybe just a fortunate location for.
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What a rich history this religion has; probably - maybe - allegedly - more colorful than EVEN the Mormon church.
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Beth Sarim and Beth Shan - other boondoggles
by Terry inif you were a religious organization publicly identified with predictingarmageddon soon, would you be motivated to build large and expensive edifices or hideaways in foreign lands?such as:a $ 1,425,400 property in which a welsh translation center could be maintained?.
this looks like a pleasant location for doomsday, doesn’t it?.
maybe just a fortunate location for.
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If you were a religious Organization publicly identified with predicting
ARMAGEDDON SOON, would you be motivated to build large and expensive edifices or hideaways in foreign lands?
Such as:
a $ 1,425,400 property in which a Welsh translation center could be maintained?This looks like a pleasant location for Doomsday, doesn’t it?
Or
Maybe just a fortunate location for. . .um. . .translating boring religious writing into WELSH.
The Watchtower Organization in 2014 made the purchase for $ 1,425,400.00
Entrance Hallway Hardwood door with double glazed side panel, high pitched ceiling with double glazed Velux window, three wall light points, meter cupboard, cloaks cupboard, oak doors, Travertine flooring with underfloor heating and glazed doors leading to:
Reception Hallway 13'9" (4.2m) x 24'7" (7.5m) max (9'2" (2.8m) min). Open spindled staircase to the first and second floors and oak glazed doors leading to lounge.
Lounge 18'4" x 20'4" (5.59m x 6.2m). Cast iron multi fuel burner on a raised slate hearth, six wall light points, television aerial point, engineered oak flooring, radiator, vaulted ceiling, double glazed patio doors and double glazed windows to the rear and side from which there are views across the extensive rear garden and Menai Straits to the Isle of Anglesey.
Superbly positioned above The Menai Strait with direct water access, the property comprises of entrance hallway, reception hallway, impressive open plan 'live in kitchen/family room', lounge, sitting room, games room, 2 studies, utility, cloakroom, shower room, 5 double bedrooms, four en-suites and a family bathroom. The property benefits from having gas central heating, double glazing, garage, established landscaped gardens with decked areas and pond. The property enjoys fantastic sea view of The Menai Strait, The Menai Suspension Bridge and across to Anglesey. (See Menai Suspension Bridge below)
Does it represent value for the people whose contributions paid for it? Will they even be told about it? Isn’t the Watchtower supposed to be a charitable organization? Hmmmm...
Why are they closing buildings in other (often poorer) parts of the world, evicting long-established workers and at the same time investing in luxury property like this that will 'benefit' a select few?
Who chooses who the select few are?
If you want to give your children a useful tool for the modern world then have them speak English, Spanish, maybe French or even Chinese. Being able to speak Welsh is a wasted opportunity better spent on other more useful things that could be taught.
Unless. . .This property is for Watchtower Elite to enjoy under pretense of business going about the Lord’s work. Or maybe for the Governing Body to wait out the Great Tribulation while the rank and file are in their Bunkers eating Pork n’ Bean rations?
A cynical Ex-JW (mentally diseased Apostate) might well ask if this doesn’t represent another Watchtower boondoggle from 1929, better known as the House of Princes.
This was built in 1929 to house the newly resurrected “Ancient Worthies” such as Abraham, David, and other Old Testament men of faith which were supposed to have been already resurrected in the year 1925. (Note: it didn’t happen.)__________________________
While WatchTower President, "Judge" Joseph F. Rutherford was enjoying the paradise like conditions of San Diego at Beth-Sarim, a secret property was also purchased near Beth-Sarim in 1939 with similar expectations but NEVER discussed in WatchTower literature.This secret 75 acre prime real estate property was also expected to house the resurrected Moses and other heroes of the faith. The added benefit was since they were expected to return shortly, just prior to Armageddon and world wide wars, they would have 2 hidden underground bomb shelters protected with 3 feet of concrete overhead and storage provisions for months.
They would be totally self sufficient at Beth-Shan with their own 425 foot well and 10,000 gallon storage tank. Electricity would be provided by a state of the art diesel powered generator and a 4,000 gallon underground tank for diesel fuel. Water was piped to the house and 2 fire hydrants would protect them from fires. The real beauty of such a secure compound is there was plenty of room for the safety of the WatchTower leadership as well. Perhaps they could bring Abraham and his friends up to speed on the marvels of the 20th century and assist in the preparation of the Kingdom of God.
Beth-Shan is mentioned only ONCE by name in the Watch Tower publication, Consolation, predecessor to the "Awake!" magazine. The context is an article concerning the requested 1 man cemetery plot for Judge Rutherford since the original burial request at Beth-Sarim was denied.
"The judge decided to continue the case so that the new site could be brought before the Planning Commission... the second plot was a proper place for burial.... The Planning Commission, who deliberated for more than two weeks, investigating the site, was haled before the court, and denied the second application for a cemetery.... New location for interment was almost in the center of the property known as Beth-Shan, which is roughly 75 acres of canyon and mesa land, adjoining Beth-Sarim but separated by a half-mile width of canyon."(May 27, 1942 Consolation, p. 9)
The immediate personal use of this home and facilities in mild weather San Diego would be immediately available to Rutherford. However, the deed to the property makes it appear this was for the noble reason of providing a haven for the arrival of faithful men and women of old as Abraham, Moses, Rahab, and Sarah. A portion of the deed of trust reads as follows:
NOW THEREFORE this trust is created and the said trustee shall hold the title to said property in trust for the use and benefit of the following named persons, whose names appear in the Bible at the Book of Hebrews, chapter eleven, verses one to forty, to wit: Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Sarah, Joseph, Moses, Rahab, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthae, David, Samuel. Until such time as the aforementioned persons return and identify themselves to the legal representatives of the said WATCH TOWER BIBLE & TRACT SOCIETY and by the consent of said Society take possession and control of said premises, the President of the WATCH TOWER BIBLE & TRACT SOCIETY shall have the right and be duty bound to direct the management and use of said premises…"
Unlike Beth-Sarim, this facility would be far more secure from the predicted coming of Armageddon. 2 bomb shelters, a diesel powered generator with a 4,000 gallon underground tank for diesel fuel, and 10,000 gallons of water storage with 2 fire hydrants.
It wasn't long before rumors among witnesses began to be spread about this haven of security, which apparently prompted a rather vague response from the WatchTower leadership:
"Some unreliable person is responsible for the circulation of a report that Beth-Sarim is being enlarged as a place of security and that this is being built by the Society.
There is absolutely not one word of truth in the report. Those who are interested in the Theocracy would better be circulating the kingdom message rather than false imaginations of others."(The Watchtower, June 1, 1940, p. 162)
Perhaps the leadership felt justified in stating "Beth-Sarim" was not being enlarged as a place of security, but the fact is the nearby Watch Tower property Beth-Shan certainly was.
No doubt Rutherford believed his wild speculation about the nearness of Armageddon and was preparing this haven of safety from the soon to be experienced explosions and poison he predicted years earlier:
… the next war will be…an annihilation! There will be poison and explosion everywhere, beneath the whole canopy of the heavens…(Golden Age, June 2, 1926, p. 55)
Author and researcher, Edward Gruss, interviewed Fred Eason, a eye witness to the goat barn bomb shelter. Fred Eason said he saw the underground shelter shortly after it's sale in 1945. He described the underground shelter with its secret entrance as a:
"...building that was called the 'goat barn' which was used to stable their goats. To enter the shelter one would go to the small bathroom area at the rear of the building, open the medicine cabinet, and pull a concealed lever inside.
A section of the wall would swing open, revealing a stairway down into what can only be identified as a bomb shelter--a room about 30 feet x 15 feet, with a 10 foot high ceiling. The walls were lined with storage shelves.
The cement ceiling of the room was 3 feet thick!" (interview with Fred Eason as documented in "Jehovah's Witnesses Their Monuments to False Prophecy, Edmond Gruss, p. 75)
The building at upper right is the main Beth-Shan residence. The arrow points to the “goat barn” which had the secret bomb shelter (as did the main residence). Photo taken after the sale of Beth-Shan 1945.
(photo courtesy of Edmund Gruss)
1963 Aerial photo of Beth-Shan. Extensive grading on the property
revealed the hidden “goat barn” bomb shelter (arrow).
(photo courtesy of Edmond Gruss)
Not only did the princes NOT return to claim the estate at Beth Sarim as prophesied by Rutherford, but the Society simply ignored the promised trust to the princes and quietly sold the property soon after Rutherford's death.
1945 black and white photo of Beth-Shan (now hand colored):
Beth-Shan house built in 1939, ten years after Beth-Sarim on adjacent property. Beth-Shan, which means "House of Security" in Hebrew, was literally a house of security -(cult compound)*-
it was accessed by a single dirt road that was guarded and gated. It also had two secret bomb shelters to protect the Beth-Shan/Beth-Sarim residents (such as the Society's second president, J.F. Rutherford).
The Society apparently wanted to keep the residence secret and covered up its very existence. The Society only mentioned Beth-Shan once in its literature: May 27, 1942 Consolation magazine (now called Awake!)
The Society began building a burial crypt for Rutherford just below Beth-Sarim shortly before his death. After this site was denied by local authorities, the Society proposed a second site which was located on the Beth-Shan property which was adjacent to Beth-Sarim. This second burial spot was also denied.
Here is an aerial photo taken in 1945:
(Note: the airstrip at the left was built shortly after the sale of this property in 1945)
The long building to the left of the cul-de-sac is the "goat barn" which had a secret bomb shelter (as did the main residence).
The remote inaccessibility is better seen from the following angle:
The deed to the Beth-Shan house and property were, like Beth-Sarim, made out to Abraham, David, and the other Old Testament "princes." In reading the deed to Beth-Shan, one could get the impression that it is simply Beth-Sarim, part II --the two deeds are very similar. Both of the residences and property were held in "trust" by the Watchtower Society's leaders for the Old Testament "princes" awaiting their return.
According to Fred Eason, who was later to purchase some of the Beth-Shan property and residence (discussed below), the dirt road which was accessible through a gate, was also guarded by JWs, so unauthorized individuals couldn't enter. He first stumbled onto the Society's building of the Beth-Shan residence while he was looking for "Young's Cave," a series of manmade caves or tunnels in the area. He was "rebuffed" by "several men on horseback" and watched the building of Beth-Shan from a different side of the mesa canyon.
Telephone interviews between Edmond Gruss and Fred Eason, Dec. 3, 1996 and letter dated Dec. 12, 1996 from Eason to Gruss. Gruss, p. 70.Monuments, p. 70.
Another building, a "goat barn" had a secret bomb shelter as well. It was a long building apparently used to house goats. At the rear of the building was a bathroom. Fred Eason bought 30 acres of the Beth-Shan property including the goat barn. In a letter to Ed Gruss he wrote of its bomb shelter:
To enter the shelter one would go to the small bathroom area at the rear of the building, open the medicine cabinet, and pull a concealed lever inside. A section of the wall would spring open, revealing a stairway down into what can only be identified as a bomb shelter--a room about about 30 feet x 15 feet, with a ten foot high ceiling. The walls were lined with storage shelves. The cement ceiling of the room was 3 feet thick!"
Gruss noted in his Monuments book:
“A person could go into the bathroom and would never know that the shelter was there. When a house was built on the property in 1967 it was placed on the lot so as to keep the shelter intact, and it still exists today.”
Doomsday PREPPERS?
Watchtower Society in the 1920's and 1930's believed that the "next war"would lead to Armageddon and result in the Theocracy or Kingdom of God on Earth. They believed it would be a war fought primarily or exclusively in the air with poison gas and bacterial (germ) bombs which would obliterate most life on earth. For example, they said:
*... the next war will be a completion [of the First World War] and therewith an annihilation! There will be poison and explosion everywhere, beneath the whole canopy of the heavens.... Poison will be mechanically wafted forward and backward by unmanned airplanes, going up into the atmosphere and descending to the earth.”
The compact, thickly-populated, highly -industrialized centers of civilization will be drenched with gases, bathed in a liquid-fire and sown with bacteria. Unquenchable conflagrations will overspread the sky with a blanket of smoke.... Perhaps some previous preparation will have been made of elaborate subterranean tunnels and chambers in anticipation of this awful time.
When the totalitarian Catholic combine gains control of the British Isles, which it is certain to do, then all the liberties of the people will be at an end.... What will be the condition when all nations become totalitarian?.... The totalitarian combine is going to get control of England and America. You cannot prevent it. Do not try.
Rutherford, J.F., Face the Facts, 1938, pp. 20, 21, p. 27.
Apparently, the Watchtower Society did its own preparing for this future calamity in building Beth-Shan (House of Security) with two bomb shelters. Perhaps "Young's Cave" with its series of underground tunnels on the property was an appealing feature in their decision to buy the property!
The reason for the storage shelves in the bomb shelters is they believed that great famines would soon occur world-wide, including the United States. This was also brought out in the "Demon Rule Ending" articles:
A great famine is certain to afflict the many nations of the earth in the very near future. The United States is also in line for much suffering.... the United States is faced with world disaster now impending and about to fall...
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One thing for certain. Boondoggles never end in this religion!Apparently the fear mongering of old is alive and well as reflected in the Bunker videos
Released for download at the J-Dub Org website. You have to admit, it’s slightly more comforting to know the leaders themselves believe their own baloney and are just as afraid of the Great Tribulation as the rank and file. So afraid, they sacrifice all this money for doom and luxury!
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Anointed Grandmother wakes up
by Terry inanointed great grandmother who woke upi arrived at the coffee shop on my bicycle and took up a seat at the outdoor table in the fresh air.
(this was way before the pandemic).. a lady with permed white hair walked over to my table and spoke directly to me.. i was wearing earbuds at that moment and didn’t hear.
i popped them out and asked her to repeat herself.. “that’s a beautiful bicycle you have there.
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In my 20 years of Jehovah's Witness life, it was the oldest generation which proved to be the most interesting to talk to.
One old fella was telling me how he was one of Rutherford's "cane boys".
When Rutherford presented large auditorium sermons, a group of a dozen men armed with hickory walking canes would tear into any trouble-makers and wail on them or yank them up out of there seats and give em the bum's rush.
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The evolution of the INVISIBLE JESUS doctrine: a TIMELINE
by Terry inwilliam miller (1782-1849), preached that the second coming of jesus christ would occur some time between march 21, 1843 and march 21, 1844. .
miller was invited to preach his "proofs" to churches in many locations.
many heard and became convinced.. millers followers may have numbered as many as 100,000. .
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The evolution of the INVISIBLE JESUS doctrine: a TIMELINE
by Terry inwilliam miller (1782-1849), preached that the second coming of jesus christ would occur some time between march 21, 1843 and march 21, 1844. .
miller was invited to preach his "proofs" to churches in many locations.
many heard and became convinced.. millers followers may have numbered as many as 100,000. .
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Phizzy
Interesting and illuminating to read how Russell was really an arch plagiarist of other's ideas.
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When it comes to "stealing" the religious ideas of others or plagiarizing them,
this thought comes to mind. It is in the form of a question:
"Wouldn't a "true" understanding (inasmuch as it comes from Jehovah/Christ) be the product of the Divine?
It would not BELONG to the religious writer expounding or publishing it, surely.
And yet - claiming somebody plagiarized your work seems to me to be an ADMISSION it ISN'T divine in origin.
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Don't Sweat the Petty things (and Don't Pet the Sweaty things)!
by Terry inchanging a diaper is a lot like getting a present from your grandmother - you're not sure what you've got but you're pretty sure you're not going to like it.____egotists have one really great trait.
they don't talk about other people._____it is impossible to know what a truly deserted area looks like.____words to live by: don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.____strange but true: most people work just hard enough not to get fired and get paid just enough money not to quit.____what does 'subjective' mean?
have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?____you have to stay in shape.
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Changing a diaper is a lot like getting a present from your grandmother - you're not sure what you've got but you're pretty sure you're not going to like it.
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Egotists have one really great trait. They don't talk about other people.
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It is impossible to know what a truly deserted area looks like.
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Words to live by: Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.
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Strange but true: Most people work just hard enough not to get fired and get paid just enough money not to quit.
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What does 'subjective' mean? Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
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You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we don't know where the hell she is.
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Wanting to be 'somebody' makes you realize you really need to be more specific.
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Why is it that when we talk to God we're said to be praying, but when God talks to us we're schizophrenic?
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Never pick a fight with an ugly person, they've got nothing to lose
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There really is only one foolproof way to look thin;
hang out with fat people!
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Anointed Grandmother wakes up
by Terry inanointed great grandmother who woke upi arrived at the coffee shop on my bicycle and took up a seat at the outdoor table in the fresh air.
(this was way before the pandemic).. a lady with permed white hair walked over to my table and spoke directly to me.. i was wearing earbuds at that moment and didn’t hear.
i popped them out and asked her to repeat herself.. “that’s a beautiful bicycle you have there.
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Haven't seen Edgar the crime boss Crow lately - staying away from Starbucks.
It reopened a while back and now I think shut down again.
I do wonder how many wild scavenger beasties are impacted by the shutdown of restaurants inasmuch as the trash bins provide a feast of fun for all._____
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Anointed Grandmother wakes up
by Terry inanointed great grandmother who woke upi arrived at the coffee shop on my bicycle and took up a seat at the outdoor table in the fresh air.
(this was way before the pandemic).. a lady with permed white hair walked over to my table and spoke directly to me.. i was wearing earbuds at that moment and didn’t hear.
i popped them out and asked her to repeat herself.. “that’s a beautiful bicycle you have there.
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I know of a young man raised a JW who is now out completely. He is highly intelligent, well-mannered, and ambitious. On the surface, it looks like he made it out of the lifelong cult without too many scars - but - I've gotten to know him at a deeper level and I know he is in anguish.
He recently walked off his job where he was making seventy thousand dollars over an issue of conscience about Black Lives Matter.
It is my considered opinion, he has transitioned from one rigid mindset to another (regardless of merit) because he craves solidarity, community, and a righteous cause.
That hunger is ravening and this is an outlet.
I'm not a psychologist, but he calls me and he's crying and hurting and he's confused.
When I was disfellowshipped, I had no idea I was suffering some kind of PTSD. I really didn't. But my live went off the rails and I thought I was just a rotten fellow.
I bring all this up for a reason. The DAMAGE is done and it doesn't repair itself.
The alternative to the frying is NOT the fire.
Where is a former cult member groomed for only one rigid mindset to go and still remain sane?
That conditioning is profound.
I was an angry person when I first came here in around 2003 and got into one debate after another. I'm not really like that. My temperament is easy going and silly most of the time - but - that old anger at all things religion took hold of me. I see it in others more easily now.
We're broken people who can help each other heal with kindness and understanding.
I told the (above) fellow to remember one thing when he tries to wake is mother and sister up about JW's.
"You are taking away something and you don't have the ability to replace what's gone. There's an empty space the size of Jehovah and a Kingdom Hall they have to cope with. Do you understand what sort of wound that is to inflict under the auspices of "setting things straight"?
Remember that scene in the Matrix after Neo takes the red pill and wakes up?
SCARY AS HELL.
That's what happens when you wake JW's up.
It's good to remember that we who do the waking need to have a plan for how to deal with the wreckage.
