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  I WAS CAUGHT emailing a pdf copy of the New Elders Book

  by Smoky in

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  i sent a .pdf to a few friends and one of them betrayed me and forward it to a elder i know, along with the emails of the recipients.

  i cant believe i was so naive to think that i can trust someone..stupid.

  i have not talked to the "benedict arnold" yet, but hopefully soon.

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  @chickpea: Good Idea, blame it on Facebook...

  @mmxiv: It does seem like i got caught red handed, and walked away squeaky clean,
  but i dont think its quite over yet...let see what happens.

  Smoky

  Smok'em if you Got'em
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  I WAS CAUGHT emailing a pdf copy of the New Elders Book

  by Smoky in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sent a .pdf to a few friends and one of them betrayed me and forward it to a elder i know, along with the emails of the recipients.

  i cant believe i was so naive to think that i can trust someone..stupid.

  i have not talked to the "benedict arnold" yet, but hopefully soon.

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  My friend txt me, telling me that his bro might just Send and email out to those who received the book and encourage them not to distribute and delete their copy of book. Of course he probably use some Elder speak to make it official.

  But hope that is it. Ef that, im keeping everything to myself from now on.

  Thanks you guys for the great ideas, suggestions, and support.

  smoky
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  I WAS CAUGHT emailing a pdf copy of the New Elders Book

  by Smoky in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sent a .pdf to a few friends and one of them betrayed me and forward it to a elder i know, along with the emails of the recipients.

  i cant believe i was so naive to think that i can trust someone..stupid.

  i have not talked to the "benedict arnold" yet, but hopefully soon.

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  OK, I finally spoke to the Elder on the Phone (that way i only speak to 1 elder). He was quite upset with me, asking me why did i email this. Mind you iv'e known this elder since he was in grammer school. His tone was quite serious (elder talk), than last time i spoke to him.

  ME: "what email?"

  Elder: "the email you sent to 4 people about the Book...why would you do that?"

  ME: "I thought it was good information to know... i sent it to friends that would find it interesting."

  Elder: "the information does not pertain to you, it is a guide for Elders." How did you get the book?

  Me: "A friend in NY mentioned it to me, and i asked if i can have a copy...and he sent to me." "he always send me all the New Information the Society is going to release, New WT/Awake magazines months in advance, District/circuit themes, name of book to be released. Things happening in Bethel, like the closures...etc."

  Elder: "Are you willing to cooperate?" (this question got me worried)

  Me: "What do you mean?"

  Elder: "What is this persons name?" ME: "Im not in liberty to say. (Elder chuckles)"

  Elder: "Is this person an Elder?"

  Me: "Im not in liberty to say. (Elder chuckles again) I dont want to get anyone else involved. Its my error/problem to deal with."

  Elder: "I know 3 of the 4 people you sent this to, can you tell me who: [email protected] is?

  Me: I dont want to get anyone else involved. Do you think i had a malicious intention?

  Elder: "NO, just wanted to get to the bottom of this. The information is not meant to be for anyone other than the Elders.

  Me: "I apologized i just saw it as information...nothing more...what can i do with it...hold a JC...No." I will not send it to anyone else, and will destroy the Copy."

  Elder: Alright then I will talk to you soon. We should get together sometime its been a while.

  Me: Yes, we should...ok, bye.

  I was paraphrasing most of it...but it did go down rather serious and go more friendly toward the end. I will have to say I also spoke to the "Benedict Arnold" after my talk with the Elder and he was Sorry for what had happened. He said he was careless when he mentioned the book he received, to the Elder (his bro). The Elder went to the computer to see. He apologized for his indiscrestion. He knew he screwed up. I believe him. He told me does not think his bro is going to make a big deal (maybe caus ewe known each other forever), but if he mentions it to any other elder...that can go out the window. He said he will talk to him and see whats up.

  I will say i really screwed, i did the opposite of what some of you metioned NOT to do. I wrote "Secret Elder Book" in the Email, the .pdf included the Letters to elders, and I did not sent to friends using BBC:

  Im such a dumbass. Lets see if it gets worse, or it blew over.

  Smoky (smoking as i type)
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  I WAS CAUGHT emailing a pdf copy of the New Elders Book

  by Smoky in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sent a .pdf to a few friends and one of them betrayed me and forward it to a elder i know, along with the emails of the recipients.

  i cant believe i was so naive to think that i can trust someone..stupid.

  i have not talked to the "benedict arnold" yet, but hopefully soon.

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  thanks you guys...im feeling a little better about this.

  So let me get this right! DENY DENY DENY...got it.

  Wish me luck. ill keep you guys posted.
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  I WAS CAUGHT emailing a pdf copy of the New Elders Book

  by Smoky in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sent a .pdf to a few friends and one of them betrayed me and forward it to a elder i know, along with the emails of the recipients.

  i cant believe i was so naive to think that i can trust someone..stupid.

  i have not talked to the "benedict arnold" yet, but hopefully soon.

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  You guys are making me nervous. If you guys read my last topic, i was going to get a visit from the elders this Weekend but they were a No show. I find it funny that when i talked to the Brother about visiting me, he could not find my Service Card? If its lost does that mean i dont Exist as a baptised JW, or no one has jurisdiction on Judicial matters? hmmm.

  I only sent it to 5 people, that i thought i can trust, all but 1, were cool about the info, and i have warned about what happen. Could they also be in trouble?...it was I who sent it...they cant control what i send?

  I can deny all i can but The Elder will eventually ask me where did i get it from (obviously not an elder). Not sure what to answer, dont want to say "oh from an apostate site"...then im in a pickle.

  I was thinking of telling them "a ficticious friend in NY sent it to me, and I will not disclose his name, unless he wants me to" (but of course he wont). I will apologize for my indiscretion, tell them I will destroy the file (hell no) and it will never happen again. That will be it. Right?

  smoky (i could use a hit right about now)
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  I WAS CAUGHT emailing a pdf copy of the New Elders Book

  by Smoky in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sent a .pdf to a few friends and one of them betrayed me and forward it to a elder i know, along with the emails of the recipients.

  i cant believe i was so naive to think that i can trust someone..stupid.

  i have not talked to the "benedict arnold" yet, but hopefully soon.

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  I sent a .pdf to a few friends and one of them betrayed me and forward it to a Elder i know, along with the emails of the recipients. "MothaF*r."

  I cant believe i was so naive to think that i can trust someone..stupid. I have not talked to the "Benedict Arnold" yet, but hopefully soon. The thing is we have been hanging out more this year and we ha done some questionable things together...He does not go to the meeting, like me and likes to party. He has even gone as far as "talk sh*t" about other people that have "snitched" on him. Yet he does this to me!

  But im not too worried..or should i be? I dont think i broke any JW rule/law, did I?

  Maybe just Copyright Enfrigement, but the WT would have to sue me...right?

  I will be having a talk with the Elder who got the email. Today let see what happens.

  Smoky

  Smok'em if you Got'em
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  Thinking about going to HELL

  by Smoky in

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  i got to thinking about death the other day, now that holloween is here.

  this thought is only in reference to dying before armeggedon.. they idea of heaven and hell, in the non-jw christian world is: if your good you go to heaven.

  if your bad you go to hell.

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  Life is really pointless. Just a big ass recycling of matter.
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  Thinking about going to HELL

  by Smoky in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got to thinking about death the other day, now that holloween is here.

  this thought is only in reference to dying before armeggedon.. they idea of heaven and hell, in the non-jw christian world is: if your good you go to heaven.

  if your bad you go to hell.

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  @heartbreaker: Thanks. It is useless to dwell on something that cannot be proven for or against. I dont know anyone resurrected.

  So i guess, if a innocent child is murdered by some Dude and not caught. To bad for the Kid, dude goes on living...no consquences, no problem.
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  Thinking about going to HELL

  by Smoky in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got to thinking about death the other day, now that holloween is here.

  this thought is only in reference to dying before armeggedon.. they idea of heaven and hell, in the non-jw christian world is: if your good you go to heaven.

  if your bad you go to hell.

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  What else is there?