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My parents are going to meet with me!

by Confession in

it was two years and two months ago when i told my mother that i no longer recognize the wts religion as being "the truth.

" as you may know, to a jw mother, this is like telling her you've decided to jump off a skyscraper.

i have spoken to her only two times since then, and have not seen her or my dad since then.

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What do I think? Hmmm... Well if I say it, The Law of Attraction may cause it to occur... (LOL!) I really don't know, but I'd just say this is "make it or break it" time. I'm going to try to be as pleasant and positive as possible. If they are coming to "inform" me that--unless I again admit the WTS represents The Only True Religion--they will shun me, I will choose to, as diplomatically as possible, demonstrate that I have substantive reasons for coming to the conclusions I have, and that I'm endeavoring to lead a righteous life.

Then again, maybe we can keep it light, and keep the door open for another time.

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My parents are going to meet with me!

by Confession in

it was two years and two months ago when i told my mother that i no longer recognize the wts religion as being "the truth.

" as you may know, to a jw mother, this is like telling her you've decided to jump off a skyscraper.

i have spoken to her only two times since then, and have not seen her or my dad since then.

Confession

The day approaches...this Saturday...think they'll "eat with such a man" as me?

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JW splinter group -Times article

by anglise in

article from the times uk.

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http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article4014800.ece.

Confession

He admits to being correct in his prophecies only one time out of ten, and continues to make predictions confidently... ??? The explanations he provides are a superb example of cult-think.

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How come the women's restrooms always stink at assemblies....

by tan in

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i mean i use public restrooms...even gas station restrooms on occassions and they never smelled like the assembly bathrooms.

i thought that they were suppose to be clean people????.

just thought i'd ask....

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"...and sometimes poop and miss the seat..."

Can anyone at all explain this to me???

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The Presumption of Divine Appointment!

by Confession in

the watchtower society has frequently denied that they are divinely inspired prophets.

yet they demand they be considered as if inspired prophets, not even allowing the flock to question or have doubts about any of their teachings without coming under scrutiny.. .

similarly, many of our beloved active jws--although knowing full well we don't recognize the society as any sort of divinely appointed agency--still expect us to act as if they are.

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Hey A@G...

1. Realize that the WTS is not the "truth".
2. Destroy my faith in the WTS by reading material that reveals their fallacies
3. Question whether the Bible is what it the WTS claims...if not is it worthy of confidence
4. Decide whether I want to believe in a god, and who that god might be...

Good, basic path. Not sure how long you've been "out" mentally, but it's a great sign you're already freeing yourself from WTS delusions if you can give yourself permission to be objective about the Bible and the concept of God itself.

Now I am in the process of analyzing the Bible to see to what degree I should trust in it as a guide to my life (I am not too impressed by what I have read thus far)

Aye. As many here will attest, it contains many good, common-sense principals: "do unto others has you'd have them do unto you," "don't puffily try to extract the straw from your brother's eye, when you've got a rafter in yours," the concept of "righteousness" (doing what you believe is right,) etc. I myself can appreciate that (in quite a few ways) my having been brought up to believe in these principals has probably been very helpful to me. But to believe it is the inerrant word of humankind's Creator? That may be harder for you to accept after considering all the available information--apart from any force influencing you to believe. In any case, good luck with your analysis.

While I still believe in "God", I have no idea who he is, since I no longer believe in the imitation WTS-Jehovah God.

It's amazing how far I've traveled since I left mentally in the Fall of 2004. I'm now very open to the idea that "God" exists--although not at all in the form most religions teach. Still exploring.

...but their mindset protects them, and they start humming - "its the truth its the truth, it really is!" That's all they have really.

<----(fully indoctrinated JW, like we used to be) "Well all I know is I'm just so glad Jehovah saw fit to reveal The Truth to my Granny! Think of all those other people out there with no hope whatsoever for the future. What bleak, pathetic lives they must all live!"

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At last! Somebody more screwed up than any Jehovah's Witness: David Icke

by Terry in

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jump to: navigation, searchdavid vaughan icke, pronounced /a?k/ to rhyme with "like," (born april 29, 1952) is a british writer and public speaker who has devoted himself since 1990 to researching "who and what is really controlling the world.

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Queen Elizabeth = Queen Lizard Breath

Ha!

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At last! Somebody more screwed up than any Jehovah's Witness: David Icke

by Terry in

david ickefrom wikipedia, the free encyclopedia(redirected from david icke) .

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jump to: navigation, searchdavid vaughan icke, pronounced /a?k/ to rhyme with "like," (born april 29, 1952) is a british writer and public speaker who has devoted himself since 1990 to researching "who and what is really controlling the world.

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I was right with him until he accused Boxcar Willie of being a Reptillian Humanoid. George W. and Kris Kristofferson? Perhaps. Boxcar Willie? Ridiculous!

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The Presumption of Divine Appointment!

by Confession in

the watchtower society has frequently denied that they are divinely inspired prophets.

yet they demand they be considered as if inspired prophets, not even allowing the flock to question or have doubts about any of their teachings without coming under scrutiny.. .

similarly, many of our beloved active jws--although knowing full well we don't recognize the society as any sort of divinely appointed agency--still expect us to act as if they are.

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Hilarious, Darth! Restrangled, how great to know your kids had your back!

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The Presumption of Divine Appointment!

by Confession in

the watchtower society has frequently denied that they are divinely inspired prophets.

yet they demand they be considered as if inspired prophets, not even allowing the flock to question or have doubts about any of their teachings without coming under scrutiny.. .

similarly, many of our beloved active jws--although knowing full well we don't recognize the society as any sort of divinely appointed agency--still expect us to act as if they are.

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Terry, I'm in agreement with your post on the Bible. So often it seems I'm trying to make points about the WTS that, for the sake of discussion, concedes that the Bible is the inspired word of mankind's Creator. I'm willing to make that concession since, in so doing, it's still quite easy to demonstrate that this organization isn't what it claims to be and that no group is in a position to ask of its followers what they ask.

Personally? I have difficulty getting past certain passages. Like the one in which Judah's daughter-in-law, Tamar, dresses as a prostitute and veils her face. Judah sees her, pays the price and has sex with her. At no point is this ever addressed as being a bad thing. Why? Why really did David and Solomon have thousands of wives and concubines? Please do not pull out that "well in those days after the flood, Jehovah needed to fill the earth." Bite me! Why didn't all of the men have lots of concubines? The kings took all of those women because they could. I don't need to provide an exhaustive list.

But the truth is I have no dispute with someone who chooses to believe in the Bible and Christianity. Do I see how it can adversely affect their powers of reasoning? Yes. But, having experienced what I have, my big dispute is with people who've alllowed a Cerebral Cortex Companion to be installed into the back of their necks, delivering constant indoctrination and anesthetic messages from a legalistic and authoritarian body of men. They've bestowed their minds and their entire lives to this institution, and have been led down the very dark garden path.

I realize that it took me a couple of years, after coming out of the cult, to give myself permission to consider the Bible wasn't what I thought it was. And so, when finding myself in a position to talk to Watchtower adherents (such as will be the case this weekend when I see my parents for the first time in a few years,) I consider it a counterproductive course to take on the Bible. I start with the religion itself and it's ridiculous teachings and assertions, such as the Presumption of Divine Appointment.

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The Presumption of Divine Appointment!

by Confession in

the watchtower society has frequently denied that they are divinely inspired prophets.

yet they demand they be considered as if inspired prophets, not even allowing the flock to question or have doubts about any of their teachings without coming under scrutiny.. .

similarly, many of our beloved active jws--although knowing full well we don't recognize the society as any sort of divinely appointed agency--still expect us to act as if they are.

Confession

You sound just like Satan with your ideas, telling all the other other angels not to listen to God. You know what is best for all mankind.

My ideas? It is the Watchtower Society that is expressing "ideas," and expecting all others to accept them. At no point have I ever suggested I know "what is best for all mankind."

The Bible plainly says " not to mixing in company with anyone that is a fornicator, Idolater or those commiting adultery. Not even speaking to such ones.

What about those who, in all sincerity, just don't believe the Watchtower Soceity is the sole channel of communication from God to the rest of the planet? What "The Bible plainly says" and 'how the Watchtower explains what it says are two different things. And, if you were to conduct a careful examination into what the Bible says and how it was practiced in the first-century--apart from only what the WTS tells you--you would very definitely be left with room for a different understanding. Are you able to do this?

Now we know you think you know more than God by your comments. We should listen to you and not Gods word.

Nothing I wrote suggests I 'think I know more than God.' What you are actually upset by is the idea that I might think I "know more than" the Watchtower Society. The fact is I've only highlighted their presumptuousness.

...that is why your religions have failed miserably.

Can you see how Watchtower brainwashing has resulted in your lumping everyone outside of your religion into the same bunch? I have no "religions."

...you have even been convinced that it is OK to kill fellow christians in all the wars you fight.

Huh?? More of the same Us vs. Them "lumping."

Again the Bible tells us that it is easy to discern the children of Satan from the children of God. The children of God will love their brothers but the children of Satan will kill their brothers

How is it showing love for human beings to presume they have been appointed by God, and to expect every other human being to listen to them and follow their dictates? How is it love for them to encourage twelve or thirteen year olds to commit themselves, and then brand them as evil enemies of God if, when they come of age, they no longer claim to see that the organization is what it purports to be? How is it love to further threaten their families and entire community of friends to shun them simply because they disagree with the Society's assertion that they are the ONLY ones who should be listened to?