I used to think that all the killings/murders shown on tv/movies were real. I thought that the people being killed/murdered were criminals from jail and because they were bad they were being killed/murdered for whatever they did. Sick huh?
Sweetp0985
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The things you believed as a child
by Sirona inwhat things did you believe as a kid that now make you chuckle?.
i believed:.
that father christmas had special dust which he sprinkled into the children's eyes so they would forget they'd seen him.
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Birthdays..... Now A Conscience Matter
by Latte infrom our readers (awake!
july 8 2004)
pinatas i read with interest the article ?the pinata - an ancient tradition?
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Sweetp0985
My simple take on the matter is like this. I'm gonna have to illustrate this too. How often in everyday life does things happen normally and nobody says anything about it, but as soon as something happens outside of the norm its all over the news. Same thing could have happened in bible times. They may have had many numerous birthday parties back then, but if nothing happened at it why write it in the bible. But lo and behold at this particular one(prisoner) and that particular one (John the Baptizer) got their head chopped off, of course this is something worth writing down or "making the news". Just like I know there were thousands of weddings held in the bible times, but at this particular one Jesus turned water into wine, so someone said hey let's write this down so we won't forget this.
God is a God of love. Every precious gift and perfect present comes from God. A child is a precious, perfect gift from God. Why wouldn't he want you to celebrate that childs birth? JW's used to celebrate Xmas, b-days, etc. anyway, I guess it wasn't pagan back then and it suddenly became pagan later on. Oh my bad, the light got brighter. But if they are so-called inspired or directed by God, why did he let them celebrate it back then.
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JWs are boxing their hobbies
by ezekiel3 inmuch entertainment in the watchtower, 15 august 2004, pg 24. see the picture for the full text to learn that we can "put off every unecessary weight" by boxing up our "hobbies and non-essential personal projects.
" i wonder what's in the box.... it is interesting to see how jws are encouraged to have hobbies:.
*** g91 11/22 pp.
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Sweetp0985
How long or tall is a darn cubit? And how big is the rod??
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Sweetp0985
Yeah I remember the paper of mirrors too. Unfortunately my family was the "in-crowd" JW's meaning that when everyone else was still in their cozy lil hotel beds, we were up getting ready to go make the physical food for everyone. I admit it was fun at the time, very seldom though. I remember this one time I swear it had to be maybe 1/4 of a slice of roast beef and it had dropped on the table to be discarded and this sister grabbed it up talking about "this is enough to make a whole sandwich" and I'm looking at her like what da hell, a sandwich for a mouse or something yeah but not my sandwich. I mean it was a minute piece of meat and she was tripping.
I liked meeting the very spiritual minded brothers too that always wanted my phone number so that he could call and we could discuss scriptures...Hardy har har har!
I remember when they were still serving food and you had to buy them lil stupid coupons like you at a fair or something. 2 tickets for a bag of fruit and stuff. The brothers always would say please stay in your seats until the brother doing the last song before break would dismiss you, and it never failed that while we would be still singing that last song a line would already be formed at the food counters.
I just had a thought, sorry guys. Isn't it odd that food was served up until the donation basis stuff started and a little while afterwards until I guess they saw they weren't getting the big bucks anymore and then they stopped serving food altogether. Money hungry scoundrels.
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Speaking in Tongues
by Pinned Blouse ini have visited several churches with family and friends and this is something that i cannot get used to.
i do not know if this is basically done in black churches or not ( i am aa) but it makes me a little uncomfortable.
i will say that i have had feelings in these churches that i have never felt in the kh.
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Sweetp0985
Pinned Blouse I know exactly how you feel. I attend a Baptist church (New Hope Baptist Church) and there have been a many Sundays that I have been crying because I was so moved by what the pastor was saying, especially when the message was meant for me. I have never ever felt that way at the KH. And yes when I first saw people "catching the Holy Ghost" I thought it was kinda funny. Silly me. Now I long to feel what that's like. I have come close many times and for some reason I never really go all the way. I guess I still be having those stupid thoughts of that it's the demons making them dance around like that. Darn crazy JW lingering beliefs.
I know it's not funny, but a close friend of mine who went to the KH for years but never got baptized invited me to this non-denominational church. I liked it because it was small kinda like the KH size meetings. But anyway in order to get baptized (in water) you had to be baptized with the holy spirit which meant speaking in tongues. My friend told me she did it and it was like nothing she had ever experienced before. Anyway we were gonna get baptized on the same day. So I had to be baptized with the HS quickly. Well there really wasn't a rush but I wanted to be baptized at the same time my friend did. Anyway, the preacher started out by praying to God that he would allow me to be filled with the HS. Mind you my friend had already told me what was gonna be done. So the preacher is praying and his wife is praying and I was praying too because I wanted to be on this closer level with God. Problem was I wasn't feeling anything. The more the preacher was praying and getting excited himself, I was feeling nothing. Finally it got to the point that he was like saying c'mon God let her feel your presence, c'mon God....and I'm standing there thinking ok maybe I'm just one of the ones that God is not pleased with and he's not gonna let me experience this. But the preacher and his wife were getting so excited, mind you I've heard my grandmother speak in tongues many many times and others speak in tongues so I kinda knew how it sounded....not wanting to dissappoint these 2 hopping around me and stuff.....I FAKED IT....I actually was just saying mumbo jumbo and thinking in my head, this is fake, they think I'm talking in tongues and I'm not. I still got baptized for the 2nd time in my life and nobody knew what I had did...until now.
But now I really do feel God's presence when I'm at church. So I still have my doubts about speaking in tongues, but I know in all my years of going to the KH and my days now of going to church, there is no comparison. When I was deep into JW my grandmother(that speaks in tongues) would come to the memorial because of my dad and she would always ask me why we sung so monotone like everyone is sad or something. I always wondered what she meant because of course JW's can't listen to gospel music, but now I know. That's a thread I might start today unless one has already been done. What's so wrong with JW's listening to gospel music. It's praising God, but I already know the answer, it didn't come from NYGB. But they can listen to all other types of music. Let me stop before I really get started.
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Crisis of Conscience online or ebook?
by lookingnow25 ini have no 'safe' way of reading a physical copy of this book really.
but after flipping through a copy at the university library here i finally want to examine it.
is there a copy online anywhere, or someway that i can view it on my computer?
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Sweetp0985
Jwsons I went to that site and got all happy because I thought I would be able to see what I would be buying before I ordered it on the internet because no stores in my area keep it in stock. Well anyway I was kinda disappointed because it only showed the first chapter and the index and that was it.
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Anyone from Louisiana?
by Sweetp0985 ini'm new to this site and was wondering if there was anyone from la, specifically baton rouge?
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Sweetp0985
I'm new to this site and was wondering if there was anyone from La, specifically Baton Rouge?
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Care Bears
by desib77 ini told my husband that i'm pretty sure i wasn't allowed to play with these when i was younger but i can't remember the reasoning behind it?
was it because they had special powers?
or was it because one of them had a four leaf clover on him?
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Sweetp0985
Yeah I didn't recall either why we couldn't get Care bears, but what was the freaking deal about Cabbage Patch Kids. I faintly recall a story about someone's CPK being demonic or hypnotized someone. Is was some crock of s**t that was cooked up and I couldn't have one and my mom bought me one anyway. There was even a sister that made them herself. That was the kind I had. So I guess since the sister had made it, it wasn't really a CPK doll. Anyone else remember that?
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Baptism
by ConcernedMom inwhat is the usual age for someone raised as a jw to be baptised?
is the belief that you must be a baptised jw to survive armageddon?
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Sweetp0985
I regret the day I got baptized. I only did it because my friends and step-sister had got baptized and everybody was looking at me wondering when I was gonna do it. I wish I had never done it. My brother is lucky. I'm now df'd and can't talk to my father, but my brother does much worse things than me and gets to go to bbq's and stuff like everything is all hunkadory. I also have a step-sister thats much older than me that never got baptized. She got pregnant and married a dude(because of pregnancy) everybody was all happy. No one every said she should be marked or anything. Guess what she got divorced from that guy and got pregnant again. Now has another little one and not married this time, but she's "about to get married" any marks...noooo. WHY?? She's not baptized, but she was raised being a JW all her life..all 30-something yrs of it and she can walk into a KH and everybody welcome her with open arms and here I am with 0 kids, going to church regularly, even practicing celibacy right now and I'm the evil wicked one that no one can talk too. Stupid a** witnesses. That really pisses me off because before I got baptized I knew people that were doing stuff that was very ungodly but if no one knew and these were my friends so I certainly wasn't gonna tell, they never got into trouble. Some of which are still active and look at me like I'm Satan himself.
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Elder Pleads For Money For Local Needs Talk!
by minimus inmy mother was telling me how the elder went up on the platform and said how we can't pass donation plates around, we can't sell cookies or do bake drives, we pretty much can't beg for money.
then he said that at the risk of getting himself in trouble, it needed to be said that they don't know what they're going to do, but they need money and contributions.
my mother said that there are very few donating money and the congregation is in continual debt plus all the wealthier people have stopped going....i thought of metatron and knew he'd be delighted to hear another testimonial.
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Sweetp0985
I forgot what ex-jw website I was on, but one of the msg was from an ex-elder saying how after the donation basis/tax evasion process was started that people started ordering all kinds of stuff that they hadn't ordered before because now it was on donation basis and they could put $5 in the box for something that was probably worth $0 oops I mean $50. The total order would have been like $3000 if everything was still being charged like it was before donation business.Anyway, he said that month they sent in a donation of about $500 and society sent them back a letter saying that the congregation OWED $2500 for books ordered. Being an elder or he might not have been an elder but he worked the literature counter or something. He said this is when he started questioning things because if everything was supposedly on donation basis how could the congregation OWE anything. Anyway, the next Theocratic meeting the elders took a resolution to send society the great blessed gift of $2500 as a donation. I know that really doesn't go with the topic of elders asking for money, but wait yes it does. The society is still only about money. He ended his story by saying how everybody in the congregation felt all special because they had sent such a big DONATION to the World wide hustlers oops I mean Work.