I read that somewhere too that Beth Sarim was for Abraham and others to live in when they were resurrected. I wonder if it was "New Light" or embarassment that made them to sell the house.
Sweetp0985
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The Purpose of Beth Sarim
by VM44 inbeth sarim, the house in san diego rutherford had built and lived in.. from the proclaimers book, page 76,a few years after brother rutherford?s death, the board of directors of the watch tower society decided to sell beth-sarim.
"the watchtower" of december 15, 1947, explained: "it had fully served its purpose and was now only serving as a monument quite expensive to keep; our faith in the return of the men of old time whom the king christ jesus will make princes in all the earth (not merely in california) is based, not upon that house beth-sarim, but upon god?s word of promise.
but, did the watchtower of december 15,1947 state what was the purpose beth-sarim had fully served?.
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Do your acquaintances know you?re a JW (or former witness)?
by senselessly sane ini remember deliberately not telling people when i was growing up, and cringing when my mom made an effort to tell my teachers.
although i no longer hide it, there are still people i consider friends who do not know i grew up jw.
sometimes it?s just that the subject of religion does not come up often, and when it does, it would be weird to say something now after i?ve known someone for years and have never mentioned it.
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I hate the fact that sometimes when I'm with my mom in public(very rare) but anyway for some unknown reason the discussion of religion always seems to come up and she tells people that I'm JW but not active right now and when I quickly tell them that no she's a JW I'm a Baptist she gets highly upset. I try and try to tell her to stop doing this but she insists. I guess in her mind once a JW always a JW...So very not true.
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Are All the Anointed Virgins???
by Sweetp0985 insince the jw's are always speaking of the 144,000 that are chosen out of the jw organization.
how many are actually anointed as is spoken of here in revelation 14:1-51 and i looked, and, lo, a lamb stood on the mount sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his father's name written in their foreheads.
2 and i heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and i heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 and they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
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Another thing I have problems with comprehending is that the JW's feel that most of the early JW (rutherford,norr, etc) were definitely of the anointed but back then weren't these all the same ones that used to smoke, celebrate xmas/bdays, have blood transfusions and other stuff that was later cut out by MEN but these are the ones that are viewed as being worthy of going to heaven even though they all partook of things that were deemed a df'ing matter today. Oh my bad, this is new light time so it didnt matter back then.
I'm just undecided on alot of things right now and trying to get opinions from others.
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Are All the Anointed Virgins???
by Sweetp0985 insince the jw's are always speaking of the 144,000 that are chosen out of the jw organization.
how many are actually anointed as is spoken of here in revelation 14:1-51 and i looked, and, lo, a lamb stood on the mount sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his father's name written in their foreheads.
2 and i heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and i heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 and they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
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Since the JW's are always speaking of the 144,000 that are chosen out of the JW organization. How many are actually anointed as is spoken of here in Revelation 14:1-5
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
I know for a fact of some of the "ANOINTED" that were married. Did they get married and not have sex with their wife? Or did they remain a "virgin" throughout their life here on earth?
Am I understanding this scripture wrong in verse 4 to be referring to those that according to JW's are the only ones going to heaven? Or is this another display of misinterperting(sp) the bible? Please help me out with this one...
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Witnesses on The Move.. More Lies Spoon Fed To The Media
by Country Girl inwitnesses on the move .
published: saturday | july 17, 2004
a view of the entrance to the marliemount headquarters of the jehovah's witnesses in jamaica and the cayman islands.
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Undaunted I read the article about Prince, as if HE would ever get disfellowshipped... I heard the lyrics to one of his other "goody-goody" songs and was shocked. I guess even if he does slip a word in or two he won't get df'd because of all the publicity about him being a JW. Just like Venus and Serena running around the tennis court carrying the flag...anyone else would have been pulled in somebody's committee room...
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Trinity
by XBEHERE ini still dont believe in the trinity doctrine completely.
lately though i have been reading other translations and listening to ex-jw testimonials online.
granted most of these testimonials are from ex-jw, born again christians.
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I'm confused about the Trinity also and my scripture I like to use is John 1:1. In the beginning was THE WORD, and THE WORD was WITH GOD, and THE WORD WAS A GOD..(as it reads in NWt)..so my question is if THE WORD is supposed to be JESUS...and this scripture is saying he was A GOD...how does this go along with other scriptures that says Jehovah is the ONLY TRUE GOD????
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Banned From the Bible
by Sweetp0985 ini may be late in seeing this special on the history channel, but did anyone else see this show.
it was about books being banned from the bible that further explains events that may or may not have happened the way it is written in the bible.
this show peaked my curiousity and i went to the library and found the book who wrote the bible?
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NWT where can I find one of those "complete" bibles, I am very interested in seeing what's in it.I probably can find one at a bible/christian store but do I just ask them
do you have any "complete" bibles???
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Do you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God?
by desib77 indo you believe the bible is the inspired word of god?
have you somehow attempted to prove this to yourself or have you just accepted it?
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Yeah Bryan I was wondering along those same lines also. No where in the bible does it speak of dinosaurs or cavemen. I don't believe Adam/Eve were cave people but scientific evidence gives proof that they existed, so where do they actually fit into this timelime after adam/eve??? or somewhere before adam/eve???
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Whoopi got Whooped!
by Yerusalyim inslim fast ran fast after whoppi's little vulgar display...she's no longer their spokeswoman.
fired!.
fair or foul, and why!
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what did whoopi do? I'm not up on current events
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Strange Exodus - Second Installment
by Frannie Banannie injuly, 1988. .
i had a dream/vision........i call it this because in many instances, the visions related in the scriptures were actually profound dreams that turned out to be prophetic in nature.
i was living in a subsidized government housing project at the time.....and i dreamed one night that i was walking down the sidewalk there from my car in the parking lot to my apartment when suddenly a small black man approached me out of the dark and stabbed me to death....(ie; i was killed by him)....instead of falling to the ground or sidewalk, i looked up to the sky.....i was searching for the lord....i expected him to "meet" me upon my death, you see.....but all i observed were dark clouds all around....clouds and more clouds.....no jesus, as expected.....when i awakened, i was puzzled....the dream had been very profound and i didn?t view it as just a dream....i saw it as predictive of something to come.....my death....but i wondered why i was still alive.....and why didn?t the lord meet me as promised in the scriptures.....somehow i knew that the little "black man" was called israel....and the clouds played an important part, too.....and i knew that the dream was metaphorical in nature......it was both metaphorical and prophetic, as things later turned out.. .
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c'mon post master...let her have another post!!! I wonder if this is like the "cliffhanger" TV shows I used to hear about. Now I gotta wait til tmr to read the rest.