Posts by BrendaCloutier

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Thinking about getting a Tatoo... Your Opinions.

by Confucious in

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want one as a symbol of my freedom.

was thinking of some chinese characters.

ok. your opinion.

BrendaCloutier

Tatoo's are just as personal as piercings, and as permanent.

My suggestion is when you find one you like, get a copy of it and have somone draw it in it's target location with henna. Henna tatooing is an ancient form of body art and lasts only 2-3 weeks. If you like it, get it done permanently. If you don't no waste of time, money, and pain....

The only real negative is on tatoos that are visible when dressed for work, and employers who don't think their professional. If you aren't in a profession that cares, no problem.

Good luck.

Bren

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The Prayer of Ramzi Yousef

by Farkel in

ramzi yousef was the mastermind behind the major al qaeda attacks, including the first world trade center bombing, the cole bombing and others.

he had plotted the deaths of president clinton, pope john paul ii and the prime minister of pakistan.

he had hatched up a plan to destroy up to a dozen jumbo jets as they flew over american cities.

BrendaCloutier

Thank you for the reference, Farkel.

Bren

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Do you believe in "same sex" marriage?

by Carmel in

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yesterday i tuned into espn sports radio and listened to a semi-political debate on several issues.

when "same sex" marriage came up one of the talking heads refrained that "all marriages are same sex.

" you get married and have the "same sex" over and over again!

BrendaCloutier

In addition to my Pro-Choice opinion...

Great humor here on this thread, including the first post. It didn't bypass me. There's been some really bad humor here, too.

There is a company in Seattle that makes kilts, including working kilts mfg similar to Carharts painter pants. They even come with "modesty snaps" for working on ladders....

Hugs

Bren

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Do you believe in "same sex" marriage?

by Carmel in

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friends

yesterday i tuned into espn sports radio and listened to a semi-political debate on several issues.

when "same sex" marriage came up one of the talking heads refrained that "all marriages are same sex.

" you get married and have the "same sex" over and over again!

BrendaCloutier

As a Pro-Choicer I do not believe in state or federal regulation of something so personal.

(I know, Pro-Choice is supposed to be in regards to abortion, but for me it covers all personal choice areas!)

Besides, the states and feds need the revenues generated by the license fees (Multnomah County, Oregon, has not given them back even though they temporarily interrupted the process), and the federal and state marriage penalty tax. They're missing out on millions of tax dollars here!

Then there is further support of the state with divorce fees, not to mention, but I will, the support of divorce attorneys. Where did I put that pre-nup, anyway?

Remember, it was just a handfull of decades ago when it was illegal for blacks to marry whites.

Catholic marrying Jew (or was it Jew marrying Catholic?).

Personally, after 3 divorces, I don't intend on getting married again, to a man, nor a woman.

Hugs

Brenda

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The Six Planes of Higher Consciousness???????

by frankiespeakin in

c&p i find this interesting not saying it is correct just interesting: .

http://www.mysticism.net/print/planes.htm.

the mystic's life lesson #4 .

BrendaCloutier

Hiya, Poppers, thank you for your post. You said much more sucinctly than what I had tried to say, but got lost in the verbage. Those who have attained the ability to "go out there" often have a difficult time being stuck in their skin-suits. I've seen many attain enlightenment, and become egomaniacs who believe theirs is the only way. Much like Bible and Big Book (of AA) thumpers. The lesson is to take the new-found understanding/enlightenment and apply it to the here and now, to the self and become self-less, with humility. (Oh gawd, there's that H word) Thanx again, and hugs Brenda >>Hi Brenda, Not to denigrate the attainments of others who can astral travel and have all sorts of other mystical experiences, but I would question whether such attainments indicate enlightenment. Paranormal abilities tend to trap one into believing they are something special and that by having them it sets them apart and above others. It is ego-enhancing. Equating mystical and paranormal experiences with enlightenment is a common misunderstanding. Enlightenment is beyond ego/mind.<<

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The Prayer of Ramzi Yousef

by Farkel in

ramzi yousef was the mastermind behind the major al qaeda attacks, including the first world trade center bombing, the cole bombing and others.

he had plotted the deaths of president clinton, pope john paul ii and the prime minister of pakistan.

he had hatched up a plan to destroy up to a dozen jumbo jets as they flew over american cities.

BrendaCloutier

Awesome post, Farkel.

I've been so far removed from JWs that I hadn't even wondered what the corporate offices did. Do you have internet documentation on this? Please pass it on.

As for Yousef, he is a man to be pittied, even prayed for, as are all brainwashed fundamentalists.

Brenda

blcloutier @ yahoo . com

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The Six Planes of Higher Consciousness???????

by frankiespeakin in

c&p i find this interesting not saying it is correct just interesting: .

http://www.mysticism.net/print/planes.htm.

the mystic's life lesson #4 .

BrendaCloutier

I can say that I've experienced this first step of enlightenment. Maybe a couple others, too. And i don't dissagree with most of the followup posts. I've known a few who were capable of astral travel, but were so uncomfortable in their skins that they couldn't live a "normal" life. Like the JW's always living and hoping for Armageddon that they don't live this life.

Many who have worked (not drugged) to gain these insights become intolerant and unaccpting of others who either aren't there yet, or have their own path. Sounds familiar, huh? I have a girlfriend who has been on Master Path for several years. Her first couple of years she was intolerable because she was intolerant. She felt superior to most other earthlings. She tolerated me because of our long-term friendship and my own spiritual path and understanding.

One of the keys to enlightenment is the acceptence and tolerance of others for who they are, where they've come from, and where they're going. We each have our paths (Karma, lessons) to follow, or change, as each individual sees fit or is capable.

I believe we are on this earthwalk for a few basic reasons: to learn to live in a limited body with limited ability to comprehend; and to love. Love the earth, animals, people, etc. Some of us are capable of love in big ways, i.e., Mother Theresa, Jimmy Carter. Most of us are only capable in small ways: sharing a smile; giving a quarter or dollar, plugging a parking meter, recycling, limiting chemical use, higher mileage vehicles and planning errands, etc.

Ok, my bubble bath soap box is put away - for now. (yeah, I know, I can be a wise-arse)

Hugs

Brenda

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Still scared!!

by fleaman uk in

i have completely moved away from the wt teachings,i know they are wrong and i will live to old age (hopefully!

)and then die of old age...but every now and again ,i feel a terrifying sense of dread (truly terrifying ),that armageddon may just happen ,complete with strange planetary phenomena etc....oh well i guess thats the 30 years of constant,never ending doom and gloom,death and destruction starting from age 3.!..being an english chap,i tend to dismiss therapy etc,but im having second thoughts..... im probably not alone feeling like this?.

ps apologies if this thread has been covered before..

BrendaCloutier

Fleeman, I appreciate your anxiety attacks. I've had a few, too.

I was especially concerned with the Gulf War, 9/11, and now our war with Iraq. I vaguely recall something about the King of the North and the King of the South going at it just before the Big A. Seems like we were taught that the KoA was US and KoS was Arabia. (I may have my kings mixed up... I never did play chess very well ;)

One thing that has helped me was when I was over at my parents house several years ago. My dad was a MS, on the JC, blah blah blah, and of course he confronted me on no longer being a JW and my life as a worldly person. I was calmly able to tell him that I will stand before Jehovah and Jesus on judgement day and account for myself. It was the first time I ever saw my dad speachless!

(The other time was later that day when we were talking about my alcoholism and I explained that I don't process alcohol normally just as he does not process sugar normall - diabetic - he never thought of it that way before - of course it's always been a moral issue.)

I do believe that what we know as Armageddon will happen. The end of this world as we know it is prophesied in other cultures. Those prophesies appear to be "relatively" soon to materialize, as do some of the Bible's. And there's not one thing I can do about it. So I don't worry about it. *

I just hope it will be after 2031 when I'm 74 and couldn't give a rat's arse.

Hugs and love

Brenda

* Serenity Prayer

God, grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change

The Courage to change the things I can

and the Wisdom to know the difference

- anonomous

* My version

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change

The courage to change the things I can

and the Widsom to hid the bodies so they will not be found

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Have you been divorced?

by Joker10 in

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anybody who reads this post please respond.

have you been divorced?

and if so, was it after being an active publisher?

BrendaCloutier

I've been divorced 3 times. None of them while a JW. To force the first one, I had an affair, because there was no way he'd let me go on any other grounds, even though he'd had several. He was and alcoholic and violent and abusive.

Married too young at 18 1-2 yrs, just like i was supposed to do. Was a virgin on wedding night - worst sex ever.

I have lived with the love of my life for over 5 years now, and expect it to continue indefinitely, or until one of us dies... I have no intention on marrying again.

Brenda

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I figured out the date for Armageddon

by gitasatsangha in

its controvertable, so sell your house and stock options and give them to me so you might spend moer time warning others of our loving god's plans to annihilate them on 2031. here you go: .

perhaps they will have new lite soon that the symbolic forty years and forty days in the wildernes was symbollic of 40,400 days because to god a thousand years is like a day so a week is like, therefore which is 110 years after 1914 is sometime in 2024 that they will no longer accept any new annointed claims.

40*365=14600+40=14640days of drinking and being merry (last hurrah for newly annointed ones): .

BrendaCloutier

Gita, here's one for you: I'm 47 (+) now, and will be 74 (+) then. Any spiritual, or for that matter, earthly significance in this? My numerology number in 2031 before my November birthday is 1. Interestingly enough, 47 = 1 and 74 = 1. Gawd, do you think I'll have to start over?

Brenda