Posts by violias

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Indiana "Religious Freedom" (right to discriminate)

by Simon in

sickening to see the photo of the religious zealots all stood around the governor signing into law the right for people to discriminate against others (gay, lesbian, trans-gender) based purely on religious dogma.. if religious people want those freedoms then the can't have it both ways - they cannot complain if *they* are discriminated against.. "sorry, we don't like zionists, get out".

"oh, it's some special mass and you can't work your shift?

you're fired!"..

violias

. Religious freedom goes both ways, Christians have rights too. Most Christian shops ( and other religions who oppose gay marriage ) have a FISH on the cards or door. This lets others know it is a christain business. They should take their business elsewhere. Why on earth would a gay couple want to FORCE a flower shop or cake shop to service their wedding - unless it was to just cause a big Brouhaha . People who own a business have rights too. Nearly every café I have ever been into has had signs, " no shoes, no shirt, no service". This is YOUR board. Do you want someone telling you how to run it?

Indiana is not the first state to do this, It has been signed into law since 93 by Clinton and 25 other states have same laws.

We fight so hard for Muslims and other religions to have "rights" , what about Christians? Don't they get rights?

I want you to know I am playing the devils advocate as I have no issues with whom anyone chooses to love. But I do believe in business owners rights too.

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The Secret is out....but nobody cares

by MrTheocratic in

i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

violias

No we were not stupid. We just wanted to serve God (MT)

thank you.

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The Secret is out....but nobody cares

by MrTheocratic in

i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

violias

MT ( OP)

I guess your post "hit" me a bit different than a lot of others. I am a born in and my grandparents were jws too. Long family history during WW2 during some of the worst persecution of jws. I knew many sincere jws ( ande a lot of jerks too) who really believed the Org and it was often called "mother". I do not believe I lived under a rock. I went through 1975 as a young adult and it was finally this and the fallout at bethel and widespread apostate paranoia in the 80-90's that helped me leave ( at least physically). My family goes back to the time when Rutherford came in.

I found you to come across as a disrespectful of those before you who gave their lives for the Org and were true believers. They were not stupid. I met many like you before I left. Many of us called them "social jws". I knew and elder who converted just b/c of the social life and he thought it would be a good place to raise his kids. He did not believe most of it- he was there b/c of the social aspect.

In fact, the social jws were a large reason I started questioning the Org. So many of them got away with things that the true believers would never have done . Many should have been DF'd per the wts standards but got away with gross conduct due to being popular.

In short, you and those like you are one of the reasons I know the TATT,

but hey welcome to the board.

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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left

by Designer Stubble in

it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.

it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.

the lost one i will search for2.

violias

the cynic in me sees this as a bit like a rogue virus program.. It looks good, promises to help, but I believe their intent is to flush out those they can officially DF or DA and get them off the books. If you fall for it --it will cost you dearly.

Always remember with the WTS the rule of thumb is

follow the money ( or lawsuits etc)

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Return to Jehovah… No Return Address

by Marvin Shilmer in

jw
friends

return to jehovah... no return address .

today i read a small piece of poetic irony.

im not going to advertise from what web forum i read this, but it was so astounding i had to share it somewhere.

violias

the cynic in me sees this as a bit like a rogue virus program.. It looks good, promises to help, but I believe their intent is to flush out those they can officially DF or DA and get them off the books. If you fall for it --it will cost you dearly.

Always remember with the WTS the rule of thumb is

follow the money ( or lawsuits etc)

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ABC's report on child abuse

by Joyzabel in

nice job!

violias

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaxQIY5mLNs

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ABC's report on child abuse

by Joyzabel in

nice job!

violias

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KkTnreoAUc

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ABCNews Nightline: Segment on JW absuse cases here......

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

here is the segment on the conti abuse case in california and jehovah's witness's response as reported on by the abcnews nightline broadcast which was shown early this morning.

it really displays some absolutely shocking behavior from not only her abuser and his (supportive) wife, but also the jw attorneys and elders via video.

i am just blown away by the audacity displayed by these monsters.. we can now understand why governing body member stephen lett slipped in his comments a couple of weeks ago about "untrue reports of child abuse" in one of his talks which can viewed on the cult's website.

violias

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KkTnreoAUc

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TMZ - Michelle Rodriguez Was A Jehovah’s Witness?

by thedepressedsoul in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2stsn0u8lji.

i got a good laugh!

.

violias

love TMZ lol

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IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

by AndersonsInfo in

important news:.

here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

violias

no aude, it is always EST, CST regardless of daylight savings time. That is why we say

spring forward one hour- you lose an hour and just go on . If a program comes on at 8pm, that is when you watch it. no change in program times.

fall back one hour. you gain an hour. I like fall the best. No change in program times,

time switches at 2am both times so

our computer and TV auto adjust the time for DST

btw to lose who do not use it, a lot of us HATE DST