Posts by violias

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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

by _Morpheus in

so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

violias

This thread does not even come close to a train wreck. No reason to shut the thread down , although it would be nice if Fisherman to stopped calling names. This is a very mild thread indeed compared to some I've read.

I have enjoyed reading first hand accounts of Bethel and hope more will comment.

Oh, and I think it is very sneaky to Pm someone with a lot of questions, personal ones too. I have received Pm's like that -- just remember anything you say in PM can be reposted all over the net. It may not be "Nice" but it is the net. Be careful who you reveal private info too.

Fisherperson, as far as I can see you revealed NO private info just ask for a lot .. I can understand that you are probably afraid to give details of your stay at Bethel for fear of outing yourself..

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Bethelite"s wife storms out of headquarters and leaves him...she was forced into Bethel. My story begins....

by Witness 007 in

we were all in our 20's the 1990's pioneers who still hoped the 1914 generation was for real.

jenny {names changed} loved peter who was younger then me and very handsome.

he wanted to go to bethel since he was a kid.

violias

I would have thought Jenny's mother would have given her a break , at least for a while.

As far as ironing sheets and linens, my mother used to do that and Martha Stewart may still do it. . It is something from another generation. I am not buying anything for the bed that requires I iron it before use.

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Worldwide Church of God collapse

by cog_survivor in

jw
friends

on my introduction post a few people expressed interest in how the worldwide church of god (wwcg) imploded.

i think maybe in hopes something similar will happen with the jws.

i think the jws will also eventually experience a meltdown but probably not in the same way since the power structure was a bit different.

violias

My father had " The pain truth" coming to our home in the 60's and I used to always read it. It did read a lot like the wts literature , at that time. I heard the rumors about him being a jws too but older jws knew he was not one of them nor ever had been. I also knew about his son, Garner Ted Armstrong who I believe was DF'd or whatever they were calling it .

If my mom had not been so determined to be a jws, I could have ended up with the COG.

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The new Governing Body is liberal. they are really freeminders!

by rege brazzy in

dear friends, your posts are very good, but we really think that they will change many things soon...for example.

watch tower now are feminist and they protect the gay cause.soon we will have many gay marriages in kingdom halls.you will see.that governing body is really cool.ted jaracz and john barr were the last puritans in the governing body!.

the current governing body is completely liberal, but as yet has some bethelites the old guard working, they are still holding some behaviors .... but very soon you will see ... even in my congregation is very liberal ... not here disassociates for immorality .. just for apostasy ... i fucked three sister, but the elders did not shunned me, but they only help me!

violias

I flagged it too.

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My sister is being harassed by the elders

by opusdei1972 in

sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

this happened more than one year ago.

i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

violias

I've seen Boe's do things this stupid and worse The elders and others often encourage vigilante behavior privately but the WTS won't back them up with Legal if they get in trouble. A few Boe's have found this out the hard way.

I'd have her go to the police first and get a paper trail started .She might want to write or maybe call the WTS and let them know what is happening and what she has had to do. If they knew of this behavior and esp if she makes it official with the police, well, they might tell them to leave her alone.

Is she unmarried ? Even more reason for her to fear their creepy behavior. Too many of us have let them get away with bad behavior but it can be stopped.

I just read your post above and she can always fall back on she was stumbled, depressed, and just asking for clarification. I like the idea about she just wants to attend another most supportive congregation. Done all the time here in states.

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Bill Cosby - too much smoke for no fire?

by Simon in

it seems like the list of people who are accusing him of rape and sexual assault is growing every day.

i'm skeptical of single accusations but the number of people and the similar stories seem overwhelming now.. it's not a conviction but to the court of public opinion ... guilty?.

.

violias

I was sure it was true all along but it has been upsetting to know he has admitted it. I loved his comedy and let my kids listen to it. People just use others , esp in the arts ( tv, movies, music etc). As bad as Cosby is, remember Roman Polanski ? Ba*tard drugs rapes ( in it's many forms) a 13 yrs old girl and all he got was - he can't come back to the usa. He can make movies that are shown in usa, but just can't come back. Hollywood also does not generally shun him. Unbelievable.

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Sam Harris talks with GD of founder of Westboro Baptist Church who left the church. so much like jws

by violias in

this is a great podcast with sam harris and the granddaughter of the founder of the westboro baptist church.

she left the church.

i could not believe how similar her experiences were to jws.

violias

bttt

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Sam Harris talks with GD of founder of Westboro Baptist Church who left the church. so much like jws

by violias in

this is a great podcast with sam harris and the granddaughter of the founder of the westboro baptist church.

she left the church.

i could not believe how similar her experiences were to jws.

violias

This is a great Podcast with Sam Harris and the granddaughter of the founder of the Westboro Baptist church. She left the church. I could not believe how similar her experiences were to Jws. Great Podcast.

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/leaving-the-church

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Please vaccinate your children

by Viviane in

and remember your boosters as adults!.

currently there is a measles outbreak in the u.s. the outbreak is clustered into communities where parents choose not to get their children vaccinated.

vaccination works primarily on herd immunity.

violias

The Huffington Post has an interesting article on this subject.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/california-vaccine_b_5953264.html

I recall in the late 50's when I started school my mom debated a lot about vaccines. I am very grateful my Dad told her to forget the crazy jws stuff and get shots.

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Is the Org Putting Elders in the Firing Line?

by The Searcher in

in view of the conti verdict of negligence by the org, are elders who are selected by the c.o.

now in a precarious position?

"charity trustees face potential liabilities in a number of ways.

violias

Yes they are. The elders are the managers of the KH, and if a crime happens at the KH and the police are called, they will want to speak to them. There are many situations that call for someone at the KH to be in charge and who else is going to be but the BOE? The WTS should back them up legally and not leave them to hang out to dry. However, I bet they will.

Not everything that could occur at the KH is within the realm of something the elders could reasonably expect to anticipate-- but a lot is. This is why the shepherds should know the appearance of their flock. . This calls for real work by the elders to know those who attend and anticpate problems. They want special respect, they have to earn it.

There have been fights, medical emergencies and shootings at the KH and other churches too. The elders are not bouncers or cops but sometimes they may have to remove disorderly person(s) or get involved and call an ambulance.

As to the field service, any elder after the Conti case who allows a child or teen to work with anyone but their parents is just up to the job of elder.