Im of on holidays for 5 weeks with the family, we may run into gotcha on our travels but i wont be around here till we get back. Barry
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by barry inim of on holidays for 5 weeks with the family, we may run into gotcha on our travels but i wont be around here till we get back.
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WT at it again...cross or stake?
by dungbeetle injust found this on the watchtower website:.
http://www.watchtower.org/library/rq/index.htm?article=article_11.htm.
cross: jesus did not die on a cross.
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barry
Im Adventist and the church people in the town I lived built a new church. Before the construction of it they had a meeting to decide if they wanted crosses on it and theyy decided against it. The church I go to now is the same denomination but has crosses bigger than the catholic church my wife attends. While al adventists beleive that jesus died on a cross some dont like they outward display of crosses. Barry
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That is great news , maybe the elders have had second thoughts about the situation, my dad was an elder in another church and on a number of occasions he told those above him to mind there own business.
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Why the big fuss?
by Marilyn inleander's final day at the tower, has made me wonder, about why the big fuss when people leave?
we try to tip toe out, shutting the door quietly as we go, but inevitably the game of cat and mouse begins.
what is behind the big fuss?
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Marilyn,
After haveing studied with the witnesses im still dont understand why one cant just leave, all other churches, clubs or organisations can be left with no problems.
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WHO..decided the Bible canon?
by gumby inso with all the writers around during,and after jesus time....who decided which books would be part of the bible?.
did god say...."i want his book, and his book and...let's see....his book....,to be part of my word.
is that how it happened?
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The canon was confirmed by pope damasis in 372 ad at the second ecumenical council.
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WHO..decided the Bible canon?
by gumby inso with all the writers around during,and after jesus time....who decided which books would be part of the bible?.
did god say...."i want his book, and his book and...let's see....his book....,to be part of my word.
is that how it happened?
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Seedy,
The first list of the books of the bible that we have now was made by St Athaniasiaus in 369ad. St Athaniasiaus saw the Arian doctrine as a heracy that would destroy christianity and he fought against it with all is might. There are 3 great creeds used in the churches and the creed of Athaniasiaus is still used occasionally it has been dropped from some churches but talks about the trinity and the incarnation.barry
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True prophecy about the WTS and a novel approach
by Lee Elder inas i sit back and watch the pedophilia scandal unfold, it occurs to me that someone connected to the watchtower got it right - they prophesied what we are seeing.
my friend jim penton in "apocalypse delayed" wrote about the impact of "brain drain" on the organization.
no organization can afford to continually lose its brightest members, yet that is exactly what the wts has done for years.. what is the price of this constant "dumbing down"?
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Dear Lee,
I beleive it would be the only thing to do, because if nothing is done nothing positive can come out of it. Only three weeks ago i had a theological difference with the lesson book used in the Adventist Church and I made my point in no uncertain terms at the class. I allmost took the meeting over but then had a twinge of concience and apologised to everyone at the end. I didnt know how they would think of my stand when I went the next week. Well the teacher next week approached me and said he would look forward to any more points I would bring up on the issues I raised and we could all discuss them in future lessons. You never know the good you may do and we all have a responcibility to do what we can in our own communities
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JUDICIAL COMMITTEE -- ANDERSON
by silentlambs inthe wheels of the watchtower termination squad grind on.
at 4:45 p.m. today barbara anderson was contacted by the chairman of her previous judicial committee from last week.
barb was asked to meet with a new judicial hearing to face new charges which are adjusted as follows:.
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As in the days of Caiaphas, Truth was Crucified so that the organisation might live.
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Are there other religions w similar beliefs to WTS
by Leander inin particular the belief that the soul does die at death, (its not eternally tormented) belief in a paradise hope and other similar doctrines of the wts.. i'm curious as to just how unique the wts is.
they claim to be the only ones with their particular set of beliefs but its something that i never really researched all the years that i've been a jw.
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Hello Leander,
Seventh Day Adventists have 27 fundamental beleifs, number 25 states when a person dies he or she stayes in the grave and is ressurrented at the second comming of christ. Other similar beleifs are held by some Adventists addmitedly a small proportion beleive the Arian doctrine [the beleif that only the father is god same as the witnesses teach]. Most beleive the trinity but there is a congregation of Arian Adventists about 100 miles from where I live also my father knows an elder he knew who is an Arian. Adventists initially were more Arian up until about the 1930s and its probably the influence the pioneers of Adventism that influenced Russell in the formative years of the Bible students.
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The Great Disappointment of 1844
by barry inbeing an adventist on this board i thought some of you might like to read this 1844 is often reffered as the great dissapointement to adventists until now.. it was autumn.
roadside aspens and hickories were already lean and spiky.
leaves lay in the waggon ruts, and grass in the field was still damp late in the afternoon.. this field was at phoenixville, on the south bankof the schuylkill.
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I dont know about that one Englishman Churches dont usually like to admit they are wrong the 7th day adventists and the Advent christian never made another prediction so im thinking it must of been probable one of the 2nd Adventist groups.
Barry