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  Is there a better way than disfellowshipping?

  by barry in

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  and can the wt learn from other churches?.

  the general conference of adventists held in toronto canada.

  no adventist will ever be disfellowshiped again.. voted to change the term "disfellowshiped" to 'remeoved from membership".

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  Blondie I have a URL for you its quite a big page and its 3/4 down the page. http://www.tagnet.org/adventist.fm/news1.htm All this stoning, I preferr a small bag of gravel myself makes the stoning last longer. Adventists dont practice shunning of removed members they are treated with respect the whole point of the resolution at the General conference was to remove all negative implications. In fact Ive only seen someone disfellowshiped once for fornication and the person asked for their membership to be dropped but many members felt she should not be disfellowshiped and wanted to refuse her request. After all arent we all sinners every day and didnt Jesus forgive the woman who commited adultry. Adventists have dissidents as big as Ray Franz who cant be disfellowshiped because the local church they belong to wont disfellowship them and they are seen as true christians even though they dont follow the company line. I actually respect people like that more because they take a stand .
  Barry

  Edited by - barry on 25 July 2002 10:32:48
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  Is there a better way than disfellowshipping?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and can the wt learn from other churches?.

  the general conference of adventists held in toronto canada.

  no adventist will ever be disfellowshiped again.. voted to change the term "disfellowshiped" to 'remeoved from membership".

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  barry

  And can the WT learn from other churches?
  The general Conference of Adventists held in Toronto Canada
  No Adventist will ever be Disfellowshiped Again.
  Voted to change the term "Disfellowshiped" to 'Remeoved from membership". The church manual committeeintended to make the term "less loaded with negative implications," Said Lowell Cooper, General Conference Vice President. The subheading was changed from " Queries concerning receiving and dropping members" to Queries concerning receiving and removeing members."
  Members are received by majority vote of church members and are likewise dropped by majority vote. So if I want to get out dissagreeing with doctrine is not good enough Ill have to do sumthin really bad now.
  Barry
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  Question

  by FiveShadows in

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  does anyone know of any good seventh day adventist message boards?

  i tried looking i can't seem to find anything...belief.net doesn't seem to have much.... ~fs

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  barry

  Speaking of the devil, here I am Five, if you have any questions I would be happy to help you out. Of course youre friend still may not beleive the same as I do but I am familiar with most divergent beleifs within the religion. Barry
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  Will I Die?

  by professor in

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  my doctor recently told me that my blood pressure is normal, but at the higher end of normal.

  i should lower my cholesterol level via diet and exercise.

  fine.. recently i applied for a job that allows me to further my education during the week but will still provide for my family.

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  barry

  I allways had high blood pressure when i went to the doctor about the 140/80 level and then i decided to have it taken away from the doctor and the average went down to 110/75 its called white collar blood pressure or sumthin because the doctors frighten most people Barry
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  holidays

  by barry in

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  im of on holidays for 5 weeks with the family, we may run into gotcha on our travels but i wont be around here till we get back.

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  barry

  Sorry Beck im going the other way somewhere warm Barry
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  Is apostate an appropriate term for us?

  by sleepy in

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  how do you feel?do you like to be called apostate ?.

  apostate just means: someone who renounces a former belief or principle.. to people who have never been witnesses it may not symbolise much.but to witnesses the word means a lot.in many of their minds it is synonymous with evil and perverted.. since it jw's who will likely call us apostate not others the term almost always has a bad or negative useage.. but it does identify us as people who have completely rejected the religion.. so is it good for us to use it or not?

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  I think apostate is used to liberaly in the witnesses because many people are still christians even though they leave the WT. Growing up in the Adventist church people who went against the company line were usually referred to by the leader of there particular group eg Brinsmeads were followers of Robert D Brinsmead, Fordits are followers of Dr Desmond Ford a theologian that was defrocked for his views. Barry
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  holidays

  by barry in

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  im of on holidays for 5 weeks with the family, we may run into gotcha on our travels but i wont be around here till we get back.

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  barry

  Im of on holidays for 5 weeks with the family, we may run into gotcha on our travels but i wont be around here till we get back. Barry
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  WT at it again...cross or stake?

  by dungbeetle in

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  just found this on the watchtower website:.

  http://www.watchtower.org/library/rq/index.htm?article=article_11.htm.

  cross: jesus did not die on a cross.

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  barry

  Im Adventist and the church people in the town I lived built a new church. Before the construction of it they had a meeting to decide if they wanted crosses on it and theyy decided against it. The church I go to now is the same denomination but has crosses bigger than the catholic church my wife attends. While al adventists beleive that jesus died on a cross some dont like they outward display of crosses. Barry
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  Bill Bowens Hearing.....

  by ISP in

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  .....is ok according to his doctor.. isp

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  That is great news , maybe the elders have had second thoughts about the situation, my dad was an elder in another church and on a number of occasions he told those above him to mind there own business.
  Barry
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  Why the big fuss?

  by Marilyn in

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  leander's final day at the tower, has made me wonder, about why the big fuss when people leave?

  we try to tip toe out, shutting the door quietly as we go, but inevitably the game of cat and mouse begins.

  what is behind the big fuss?

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  barry

  Marilyn,
  After haveing studied with the witnesses im still dont understand why one cant just leave, all other churches, clubs or organisations can be left with no problems.
  Barry