Posts by barry

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About early christianity: Good link!

by Hellrider in

i found a good text online, about early christianity: .

http://www.muslimhope.com/bibleanswers/earlychurch.htm.

...the text has nothing to do with islam at all, but it is published on a web-page that tries to reach out to moslems...(never mind that, it`s not important).

barry

Episcopalians, Seventh day adventists , Baptists , Methodists all beleive the same on the Trinity.basically. God is Father Son and Holy Spirit ;that make up one God. Three persons make up one god. All have allways existed.

The incarnation is when Jesus or God the Son came to earth in th eform of a human. Jesus was fully god and fully man the scriptures can speak of Jesus a man and Jesus the son of God. Jesus has two natures.

When I was a young boy I went to a bible study group in the SDA church and we went throught the statement of beleif of the Episcopalian church and beleive it or not it is the same as what SDAs beleive on the Trinity as well as every other beleif. Of course the SDAs have a few extra beleifs that are not included in the Westminister confession

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About early christianity: Good link!

by Hellrider in

i found a good text online, about early christianity: .

http://www.muslimhope.com/bibleanswers/earlychurch.htm.

...the text has nothing to do with islam at all, but it is published on a web-page that tries to reach out to moslems...(never mind that, it`s not important).

barry

I think its a very good link the fact is the time period in question the scriptures hadnt been decided on Hebrews to Revelation. These books were decided on by the end of the fourth century.

Flying high no one beleives all three are the one person that is only a straw man .

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Anyone Here Do Any Stock Market Investing?

by BlackPearl in

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not sure if this is the right forum for this, but....anyone want share any recent stock purchase?

if you own stock, please make an argument as to why you purchased it.

this is my hobbie, i look for undervalued companies to buy and wait for wall street to recognize it's true value (anyone heard of warren buffett?

barry

Ive just done some paper trading over the last 5 weeks. 22 stocks were chosen useing technical analysis, position size was varied smaller size for speculative stocks. $34756 was invested, losing trades were stopped and a loss taken during that time. Winning trades were let run to give a maximum return and are more profitable even after the trial period. The total value of the shares after the 5 weeks is $42309 giveing a raw profit of $7553 or 21.7% over 5 weeks. The trades were managed by trend line multiple moveing averages and a countback line to stop out loseing trades and also as a stop loss to protect profit gains on winning trades.

22 stocks were chosen from the Australian stock exchange in the resources sector. The resources are hot at the moment with the indexes out performing all other sectors. BHP is the worlds biggest miner and is an Australian company.

I only put in 11 thousand of real money but will be investng more next time now I know what I can do. Barry

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The Lesson of Martin Luther...

by Confucious in

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hey guys.... just felt like posting tonight.. comment or don't comment... but there was a good thought that came to mind tonight for me.. martin luther.... no... not martin luther king, jr.. the martin luther.. and forgive me please if my historical facts aren't 100 percent.. but martin luther went against the catholic church.. he posted the 95 rig-a-ma-role on the church doors.

basically condeming the sale of indulgence from pope leo.. anyway... martin luther went against the so called "norm" of the day.. but one of the things that i learned from him was his famous quote.... "here i stand.

god help me.".

barry

Martin Luther rediscovered the biblical teaching of righteousness by faith and this is the teaching which frightened the Catholic church the most. The teaching says that we are declared righteous and of course if the teaching was acceprted by the RC church many of there teachings would be obsolute. In othere words the rites performed by the church no longer have any power such as the rite of forgiveness and to forgive sins because the beleiver as the bible says can approach the throne of God himself. The official catholic position is that the beleiver is made righteous. Many Catholics today are evangelicals.

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An elder told me that I can give blood here, but not there...

by JH in

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a few years ago, i was diagnosed with too much iron in my blood.

most people lack iron, but i have too much.

with time, this iron lodges in the body, and it's not good.. so, my doctor told me to give blood a few times a year and this problem would be solved.

barry

JH just tell them to divide youre blood into fractions that are permissable under WT rules after that it isnt your responsible anymore. I dont see how the elders could argue with that.

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CO says, "people accuse us of not believing in Jesus!"

by truthseeker in

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is he right or wrong?.

during his talk, the circuit overseer asked what kinds of negative information get spread about jehovah's witnesses.

of course, the question was rheoctorical, the audience didn't answer.

barry

The Muslims beleive in Jesus too they beleive he will come again at the end of the world. The WT Society actually hides the role of Jesus to its members as much as possible.

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Why is the watchtower anonymously written

by headmath in

it seems that after rutherford's death that every wts publication was anonymous.

that was done to create a subconscious belief in the reader of divine authorship.

the watchtower is written by the fds and they are god's only channel of communication.

barry

Gday Yaddayadda,

Im an SDA and the real reason we have information about the authors of our magazines is so we dont waste valuable time reading the articals of people that are teaching heresy in our magazines. If they teach heresy once, likely they will push their point of view again. Thats where the WT society is very tricky in being anonymous. Barry

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In Ireland, JW's may sue over blood transfusion

by Kenneson in

in an unprecedented case, an irish judge overruled an adult woman jehovah's witness objection to blood transfusions.

in the past, only children had been forced to have transfusions where deemed necessary.

when the story first broke out, there were several ambiguities and questions unanswered.

barry

I would suggest the hospital should remove the offending blood from the womens body taking the exact amount.

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What is the difference between a beneficial religion and a damaging one?

by jwfacts in

what is the difference between religion that benefits its members and one that harms them?

most people would agree that a religion that resorts to terrorism is damaging.

most here would also agree that the wts is a damaging religion.

barry

I remember at the SDAs a top delegate held a meeting and admitted SDAs have in the past used the scarey bits in the book of revelation. Many religions are guilty of this. While SDAs dont have an everlasting hell the scare mongering can still be acheived.

i beleive doctrine has a big part to play in reguard to guilt just like the Roman Catholics the traditional Adventists have used this method to the detriment of their members. As I recall the reformation was all about how a person would be saved by God. Is a person saved by works and is it possible for anyone to be saved if it is by works? This proposition results in an impossible task for anyone and results in a life of not knowing if they are accepted by God. Imagine not knowing if you are a child of God because youre acceptance is based on you being perfect. It is a terrible way to live.

Therefore good religion is based on good doctrine the doctrine of the reformation that we are saved reguardless of our keeping of the commandmants.

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Are the 'dead conscious of nothing?'

by Gill in

if, as quoted in ecclesiastes, 'the dead are conscious of nothing....', then how come they cannot be separated from god's love.

(as mentioned in another scripture which my ass is too lazy to get up and look up)?.

supposedly, the dead are non existent according to the sadduceic interpretion, so how can they 'feel the love?

barry

The SDAs have the same doctrine as the JWs on this doctrine. In SDA lingo it it is called the doctrine of the stste of the dead. Funny how both churches use the same proof text method and ignore the history of the Saducees and Pharasees in their interpretation.

I once wondered how anyone could beleive any different but i have printed this out to show some church members.Thanks everyone including Leolaia and Narkissos