Posts by barry

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Liberal v conservative churches

by barry in

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you can read the artical on the above link.. a short story about nancy a conservative christian who states to the minister she wont be attending his church again because the reasons being she doesn't like the drums.

also the people are too friendly to each other and to new people visiting conservative churches aren't like that.

according to 'nancy the truth is important as well as character perfection before jesus comes.. some of you might be amused, i was.

barry

liberaladventist.blogspot.com.au/2011/07/happy-church.html

You can read the artical on the above link.

A short story about Nancy a conservative christian who states to the minister she wont be attending his church again because the reasons being she doesn't like the drums. Also the people are too friendly to each other and to new people visiting conservative churches aren't like that. According to 'Nancy the truth is important as well as character perfection before jesus comes.

Some of you might be amused, I was. Barry

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What are the qualifications to be a baptizer at the assemblies?

by Iamallcool in

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barry

Anyone can baptise ever an unbeliever as long its done in the name of the father son and holy spirit.

The only requirement necessary is to have life saving skills if the person being baptised starts to drown

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if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either

by biometrics in

for even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.

(2 thess.

how many witlesses actually take this scripture to heart and apply it in their lives.

barry

I was told by an ex jw that just before 1975 people were encouraged to go on the dole and preach full time.

The dole for a single person here is a pittance of about $250 + maybe $100 rent allowance per week but please note that a family of four can get close to $1000 per week with rent assistance and unlike some countries these benefits run for life or until that person gets a job.

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News - Neanderthal DNA 99.5% Like Ours

by Satanus in

just recently, some scientists managed to sequence neanderthal dna.

while this discovery is not totally explored at this point, the following data are quite solid.. using different techniques, two teams of scientists separately sequenced large chunks of dna extracted from the femur of a 38,000-year-old neanderthal specimen found in a cave [image] 26 years ago in croatia.

one team sequenced more than one million base pairs and the other 65,000 pairs of the genome.. .

barry

I saw a documentary about how the neanderthals may have died out. According to one theory tha Neanderthals were more muscular had shorter legs and had no waistline. they lived in forest areas. They hunted with heavy spears and crept up on the animal being hunted. The spear was not thrown but thrust into the animal at close quarters.

The forests were decreasing during an ice age and open plains were increasing.

The theory is that modern humans started to inhabit the open plain areas because they were more athletic and were using a light spear which was thrown. Usually an animal runs quite a distance especially when a lighter spear hits its intended targetso even after the hit modern humans may have to run quite a distance to take down there quarry. The Neanderthal was just not athletic enough for this new type of hunting.

Did they interbreed? No! They kept their penis in their genis

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Where do you consider the best place to live in the world

by His Excellency in

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for those of you who have travelled the world over, which country or city will you consider the place to live in the world.

barry

Gday Moshe, We can have high powered rifles here but the requirements are restrictive.

First you have to do a safety test and you have to have a secure rifle safe bolted to the wall.

It is then required to apply to join a club or you can get written permission from a land owner. Most land owners are only too happy to rid their propertys of wild pigs, roos, rabbits and deer. Common calibers are 308 winchester, 270, 223 ,22long rifle .

The government is opening up a lot of crown land to control much of the imported vermon and its not very hard to get a licence to shoot in those areas.

The regulations are just a pain in the butt

Their are plenty of target rangers here .

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40% of Americans Believe in Strict Creationism

by leavingwt in

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four in 10 americans believe in strict creationism.

four in 10 americans, slightly fewer today than in years past, believe god created humans in their present form about 10,000 years ago.

thirty-eight percent believe god guided a process by which humans developed over millions of years from less advanced life forms, while 16%, up slightly from years past, believe humans developed over millions of years, without god's involvement.. a small minority of americans hold the "secular evolution" view that humans evolved with no influence from god -- but the number has risen from 9% in 1982 to 16% today.

barry

The YEC [young earth creationists ] are a dying breed they don't usually promote the idear of a 6000 year history of the earth. They promote the creation story all the same and when I was an SDA they used to visit and take the main weekly sermon and they also visited lother churches too.

The problem with the SDAs is they promote creation and teach evolution in their Universitys so there is quite a bit of distrust between the church and its institutions.

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The JW life is good!

by Julia Orwell in

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for some people.

i think of the old man who has no family and lives in a nursing home, and the only time he gets out is when he's picked up for the meetings.

he lives solely for that.. or people who love routine and busy-ness, people who need to be led.. george orwell wrote that the party is best able to impose its worldview on those least likely to understand what it is that's being asked of them: orthodoxy is unconsciousness.. i believe a lot of jws swallow the party line and it passes through them unharmed, like a seed pooped out by a bird.

barry

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Watchtower encourages children to shun DF parents.

by Azazel in

hey guys just wondering if anyone can recall a recent watchtower ( maybe a year ago ) that had an article aimed at minor children on dealing with a disfellowshipped parent.

ive had a dive thru jw.org but coudnt find it before i wanted to vomit.

can anyone help recall what issue it was.

barry

In summary it appears the WT society wants absolute loyalty above family and friends outside the religion. anyone taking the societys approach should be looked on with complete suspicion. There should be no conflict but the WT enforces conflict between people. Who could trust a JW under this type of teaching.?

Its actually the exact opposite of what people of other churches think and do.

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Seventh Gay Adventists, a movie you should see

by barry in

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a film about faith on the margins.

directors daneen akers and stephen eyer and screenings listed at www.sgamovie.com.

what a beautiful film!

barry

jw facts not all the SDA members are against them many support them I have found out the lesbian couple in the video are office bearers in the church now but are unsure of a new minister appointed to their church. The SDAs are pluralistic in their beliefs my grandmother was a very devout SDA but wouldn't go to church in the last 20 years of her life because of the liberal members v the conservative members v the progressive members. Thats why our family is now Anglican

Many in the church do think for themselves look at sgamovie.com see the sda members that gave their approval of the movie and the movie was shown in some sda churches.

Many sda go to a church school and then go onto an sda university and are not exposed to the wider community. Unlike the witnesses they do promote education.

I don't have the same connection with many of my former sda friends I used to have non sda friends visit their churches when I was a kid so I don't have that same connection. Also I can't stand Ellen White

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Seventh Gay Adventists, a movie you should see

by barry in

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a film about faith on the margins.

directors daneen akers and stephen eyer and screenings listed at www.sgamovie.com.

what a beautiful film!

barry

Gday wilfried , I looked if that movie is in another lingo but to no avail.

The guy who first talks on both videos had been in therapy for 5 years trying to change to being straight but he fell in love with a man anyway.

Its not easy being gay and religious and I believe they need our support. The suicide rate for gay religious people is 8 times the general population