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  Whatever happened to the "Fall of Babylon the Great" and the "drying up of the churches?

  by villagegirl in

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  i am from the era of the babylon book, and all the wt predictions that the churches of christendom would "dry up".

  the book babylone the great has fallen god's kingdom rules, said people would leave the churches of christendom, in droves and the ministers would have no more people in their churches while "god's organization" would see a tremendous increase, a huge overflowing great crowd, all streaming into the watchtower and coming to the "faithful and discreet slave" for instructions.

  thirty years ago there were six million jw's , today after the "great increase", and " great crowd" is now ?

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  China and south America is the new growth areas for churches.

  The Anglican church and the Church of England should be added together to make 105 million
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  Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?

  by smiddy in

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  islam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .

  christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.

  stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .

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  The video has a whole group of muslim people all put up their hands to say they are moderate muslims not fanatics but they all put up their hands in agreement for capitol punishment for apostasy and other crimes requiring the death penalty by the Quoran
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  Wine Appreciation

  by FL_Panthers in

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  for the love wine.. .

  what are you drinking at the moment?.

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  We have 2lts of red shiras but I have a bottle of grange that cost $600 and if any one drinks it they will be shot
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  Anyone have watchtower 15 july 1997 The investigative Judgement article?

  by barry in

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  i would like to see this artical being a former adventist the investigative judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844. from what i have read this artical by the wt also mentions sda scholars that have theological problems with the investigative judgement and many adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the sda main beliefs.

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  Gday Listener,

  The SdAs don't dissfellowship your right about that but to many peoples dissmay Dr Ford lost his job and after that happened and I quote 'It doesn't pay to be right too early in the game"

  The other theologans including Cottrell faired well.

  Des got a job in an independant ministry 'Good News Unlimited' but is still invited to SDA churches to speak such as the one above. Some SDAs are poles apart with him on theology but still have respect for him as a christian brother others regard him as total apostate while the lunatic fringe accuse him of being a Catholic Jesuit infiltrator.

  It depends on what faction the SDA member is in as to there support or dissaproval of a particular person and their theology.
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  Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?

  by smiddy in

  1. social
  2. current

  islam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .

  christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.

  stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .

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  This is moderate Islam.

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=egjo70wm4Oc
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  Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?

  by smiddy in

  1. social
  2. current

  islam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .

  christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.

  stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .

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  Anyone have watchtower 15 july 1997 The investigative Judgement article?

  by barry in

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  i would like to see this artical being a former adventist the investigative judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844. from what i have read this artical by the wt also mentions sda scholars that have theological problems with the investigative judgement and many adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the sda main beliefs.

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  Here is a video of Dr Ford at an American church I believe its a university church SDA . Dr Ford is the same as the one mentioned in the WT artical above well respected by many but by some is regarded as an apostate.

  Dr Ford talks about Historicism a very faulty method of understanding biblical prophecy now only used by Adventists and Jehovahs witnesses. Dr Ford also mentioned the 27 scholars that rejected the SDA explanation of daniel 8.14 also mentioned in the WT artical above he also refers to himself as a rebel Adventist. The sermon also gives an excellent presentation of the gospel.

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_pR_d3TkWs
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  Anyone have watchtower 15 july 1997 The investigative Judgement article?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would like to see this artical being a former adventist the investigative judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844. from what i have read this artical by the wt also mentions sda scholars that have theological problems with the investigative judgement and many adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the sda main beliefs.

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  Thanks Nebeska,

  Thats a good artical by the WT society but it doesn't go far enough in detail. The WT society may be doing this for their own ends but one of the main reasons the investigative judgement doctrine is questioned is because of its conflict with the gospel of grace. Also desmond Ford mentioned in the artical endorsed Raymond Franz book which is also not mentioned. The day for a year principle is questioned by bible scholars also but is accepted as truth by the WT society
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  Anyone have watchtower 15 july 1997 The investigative Judgement article?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would like to see this artical being a former adventist the investigative judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844. from what i have read this artical by the wt also mentions sda scholars that have theological problems with the investigative judgement and many adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the sda main beliefs.

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  I would like to see this artical being a former Adventist the Investigative Judgement doctrine was generated after the dissapointment in 1844

  From what I have read this artical by the WT also mentions SDA scholars that have theological problems with the Investigative Judgement and many Adventists don't believe it even though it is one of the SDA main beliefs

  Barry
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  Are Seventh-Day Adventists a better Church to belong to than being a JW

  by jwfacts in

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  2. beliefs

  a lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?

  " and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.

  doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.

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  barry

  Here is a video of a traditional SDA comments about the SDA doctrine of the investigative judgement which is sort of like the 1914 JW doctrine. He shows a video of Desmond Ford a contempory of Ray Franz. Please note Desmond Ford is speaking in a SDA church 28 years after his sacking. I believe it is a university church. Des is an evangelical as you might think and he has a good theology in my opinion. Des is also regarded as an apostate by some SDAs

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4V370cJUkY