Posts by barry

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Where Else Would I Go? The LONG Answer

by jwfacts in

the following is an article i have just posted at http://jwfacts.com/index_files/where.htm i have collected the information from a number of discussions on jwd.

i welcome any comments and suggestions.

?in the long run it is far more dangerous to adhere to illusion than to face what the actual fact is?

barry

Gday JW facts, Good work I agree with you . I just wan to add that type of religion we decide on and the church we go to is our choice and our choice only. I see religion as a big supermarket out there and we all have freedom to pick the product we want. There is also what I would call the black market out there where some religionists promote fear doom if we dont buy there products. these organisations should be delisted as businesses by the people who delist businesses. Cant think of there name is it Atsic or something. Barry

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A funny SDA JW tale

by barry in

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my dad is her in canberra staying with us and tonight i mentioned about how i get on jwd and how this site works.. he told me a great storey tonight about some sdas collecting for a charity over in wagga nsw where he onced lived.. anyway this bloke was going door to door trying to get donations he had a bag just like jws carry.

the going was hard people didnt want to even talk to him and being a good salesperson as he was in his regular job he couldnt understand the hostility.

anyway he decided he would tackle this problem head on at the very next door.

barry

My Dad is her in Canberra staying with us and tonight I mentioned about how I get on JWD and how this site works.

He told me a great storey tonight about some SDAs collecting for a charity over in Wagga NSW where he onced lived.

Anyway this bloke was going door to door trying to get donations he had a bag just like JWs carry. The going was hard people didnt want to even talk to him and being a good salesperson as he was in his regular job he couldnt understand the hostility. Anyway he decided he would tackle this problem head on at the very next door. The next door a lady opened the door and before she could get a word out he said, 'Im collecting for charity and Im not a Jehovahs witness' At that the somewhat startled householder replied 'Well Iam a Jehovahs witness.' It just so happened he picked the wrong house.

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If only the new system was real...

by misspeaches in

i sent my mum an e-mail the other day to let her know about steve irwin's tragic accident.

this morning i got her reply:he will thrive in the new system when he will be able to get up close and personal with all wild creatures without fear.

tis really sad as he was a good genuine man.. .

barry

You have to be carefull with koala bears because when they get nervous they will piss all over you. I think it was Prince Charles found that out on one of his visits here.

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But what if they're right............still the Truth?

by ScoobySnax in

this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.

it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.

i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.

barry

Schooby, The doctrine where Jesus came down and inspected all the churches in 1914 is based on the day year rule and the historicist method of interpretation of the bible. The Adventists have a similar doctrine its called the investigative judgement doctrine in 1844 .

Both doctrines take liberties with the interpretation of scripture and methods scholars would not support. Im an SDA myself and dont beleive such these doctrines. I make it well known in my own church these interpretations are rubbish and not supported by scripture.

Schooby some adventist are brainwashed just like you its not uncommon.

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What Christian religions do not believe in a burning hell?

by jwfacts in

i am interested in finding out if christianity still teaches a burning hell.

it is my understanding that they are starting to drop this teaching as just a figurative place.

is that true?.

barry

The SDAs do beleive in a burning hell but not a hell for ever and ever. Readiung here its amazing how close the beleifs of christians are.

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Aussies/Canadians of JWD most laid back~

by FlyingHighNow in

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i was thinking today, i've been here at jwd for nearly three years now.

i've observed that our aussie members are the most laid back members on the board here.they don't take their country, their politics or anything too seriously really.

people who are from europe tend to be more laid back than the brits and americans.

barry

Another thing about Australians Flyinghignow,

We arent raciest in Australia we love white people.

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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible

by thirdwitness in

think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.

why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?

as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.

barry

Thirdwitness, Christ accepted worship.

If its not against youre churches rules buy a hynmbook from any denomination and see how often gods name Jehovah is is mentioned.

It doesnt matter which denomination you get the hynmbook off because many hymns are used by all churches. Dont reply to this post until you do what ive suggested.

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Who is an Apostate?

by thirdwitness in

here is an interesting link http://www.tjdefendidos.org/ and here is an english translation of the article on that site about apostates testimony.

is the testimony of apostates reliable?

sometimes, the mass media offer testimonies of people who used to be jehovah's witnesses as a means of finding out more about our religion.

barry

The problem as I see it is the WT sets the limits on what a person can beleive between zero and nothing.

As a result of this very tight situation there are probably very many people falsly accused of being Apostate when in fact they are really loyal JWs.

Imagine the scholarly work by some people here Leoloa, AlanF , Blondie,Amazing1914 just to name a few. The way the JWs are going the religion will become more and more stupid.

As for you 3rd Witness I am still waiting for an explanation on why you say the day year rule should be used in daniel nine because the christian church interpreted daniel nine without the day -year for centuries? You would be in a better position to answer some of these questions with the scholarly work here.

As they say a smart man changes his mind sometimes a fool never.

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on the trinity

by drew sagan in

i was just wondering what the opinions those on this board regarding this topic.

i know some have moved towards more orthodox theology, others have not.

curious as to what the opinions are of this.

barry

I beleive as 99% of christians beleive that christian doctrine is developed.

The protestant doctrine of righeousness by faith was only developed at the time of the reformation and many times the christian church only looks at a doctrine when a heracy pops up. You cant asnwer a question before its asked.

The same applies to the trinity doctrine hundreds of baptisimal formalia in th efirst few centries had the central theme as the trinity the nicean creed is taken from the creed of ceasarear. Arius was a Jonny come lately is the developement of the doctrine.

I dont beleive the doctrine is depentant on salvation in factr some in the church I attend dont beleive the trinity but they are in the minority.

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JW- Mormons- Seven-day adventist The more they preach- fewer come in

by sspo in

keeping members a challenge for lds church .

mormon myth: the belief that the church is the fastest-growing faith in the world doesn't hold up .

by peggy fletcher stack .

barry

I beleive the penticostals are growing at a greater rate than any denomination in fact I read in a church paper that SDAs in many parts of the world also go to penticostal meetings. As the paper said they go to the SDAs for the truth and to the penticostal services for the experiance. Barry