it seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
If all will be saved what is meant by "saved, if" and "in vain"?
Peace
isaiah 43:10-12 "but you are my witnesses.
" god's decree.
"you're my handpicked servant so that you'll come to know and trust me, .
"I'm not referring to me."
Of course you're not.
You're refering to Jesus Christ. Our Lord and our God.
Peace
from page 13. in summary, the writing department insists on using.
only material that is accurate and truthful, even.
regarding seemingly insignificant details.
"only material that is accurate and truthful"
How can they say that with all the changes and flip flops in major doctrine?
It just sounds like a lie to me.
Peace
it seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
"Essentually you are born already in debt to the church.. I mean "god"."
That's not biblical. Jesus said that we need to be like children.
WE ARE NOT BORN WITH SIN.
We are born with the knowledge of good and evil.
Once we reach accountable age, our shortcomings will be counted as sin if we don't have Christ.
Peace
it seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
When I said "....we will be held acountable for our shortcomings" I meant mankind as a whole, not those in Christ.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
There will be no judgement day for Christians.
Peace
it seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
"So, "Adamic Sin" does not have any relevance to me according to the Bible Bob 1999 ?"
The only relevance Adamic Sin has for you and me is this, because Adam ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil we know right from wrong so we will be held acountable for our shortcomings.
Peace
it seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
"I have lived by the Golden Rule."
"So, is your God going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?"
The bible makes it clear that we will be judged by our own actions, not the actions of others.
If you have really lived by the "Golden Rule" all your life, every time, then you are not in need of grace.
The rest of us are.
Peace
what sort of conversations could you have in a perfect world?
i have a hard enough time creating conversation in this world.
when i need a conversation topic, i might mention a news story, or some problem such as the price of gas.
If you go to Paradise you will be feed, in full measure, from the tree of Life by Christ.
I don't think you will have any trouble making conversation.
Peace
i really can't get over that there are more than over 50 "gnostic" books that have every qualification that the other books in the new testament have and people won't consider them because it doesn't jive with "their" dogmas.
i really like the book of thomas.. i also consider paul the first big time hijacker of jesus intent..
Are you forgetting that we are under the New Covenant?
Jer 31:31-34
31 “The days are coming,” declares the LORD,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to [a] them, [b] ”
declares the LORD.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the LORD.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the LORD,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the LORD.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”
Hebrews 8:13 "By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear."
Jesus was asked when the end of the age would come. The age that they were in at the time was the old covenenat age. When the temple was distroyed in 70AD the old covenant ended. "Will soon disappear".
No one was ever saved by adhering to the Mosiac Law. Because no man can keep the Law.
If we are no longer teaching our neighbor [the Law] how can he keep the Law? Because the spirit of the Law is in his heart.
If we love God with our everything we will try our best to keep the Spirit of the Law but we will fail.
The grace of God, made posible by the sacrifice of Christ, allows God to forgive our shortcomings and remember our sins no more.
Peace Philippians 4:7
