"22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive."
All are "In Adam" but not all are "in Christ". Only beleivers.
To be in Adam one just needs to be born, to be in Christ one needs to be born again.
Peace
bob1999
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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1 Corinthians 15
1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
If all will be saved what is meant by "saved, if" and "in vain"?
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I AM The Savior
by snowbird inisaiah 43:10-12 "but you are my witnesses.
" god's decree.
"you're my handpicked servant so that you'll come to know and trust me, .
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"I'm not referring to me."
Of course you're not.
You're refering to Jesus Christ. Our Lord and our God.
Peace
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from the 2011 yearbook
by therevealer infrom page 13. in summary, the writing department insists on using.
only material that is accurate and truthful, even.
regarding seemingly insignificant details.
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"only material that is accurate and truthful"
How can they say that with all the changes and flip flops in major doctrine?
It just sounds like a lie to me.
Peace
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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bob1999
"Essentually you are born already in debt to the church.. I mean "god"."
That's not biblical. Jesus said that we need to be like children.
WE ARE NOT BORN WITH SIN.
We are born with the knowledge of good and evil.
Once we reach accountable age, our shortcomings will be counted as sin if we don't have Christ.
Peace
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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bob1999
When I said "....we will be held acountable for our shortcomings" I meant mankind as a whole, not those in Christ.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
There will be no judgement day for Christians.
Peace
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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"So, "Adamic Sin" does not have any relevance to me according to the Bible Bob 1999 ?"
The only relevance Adamic Sin has for you and me is this, because Adam ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil we know right from wrong so we will be held acountable for our shortcomings.
Peace
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What say you Christians ???
by wobble init seems to me that most, if not all christians are really hung up on sin and redemption from sin and how naturally evil we all are.. my question, and observation is this : i had nothing to do with whatever you say adam and eve did wrong, i have always, throughout my life, treated whoever i came into contact with compassion, respect and love.. i have lived by the golden rule.. not many people, hand on heart, can say that, i can.. so, is your god going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?
is he going to say that , because i did not believe in him, i willl be judged adversely, even though i lived by the precepts he is supposed to support ?.
all i can say is, if your god is like that, i refuse to worship or acknowledge him.. and i certainly do not want to get to know him.
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bob1999
"I have lived by the Golden Rule."
"So, is your God going to judge me for the "sin" of some mythical forebears of mine ?"
The bible makes it clear that we will be judged by our own actions, not the actions of others.
If you have really lived by the "Golden Rule" all your life, every time, then you are not in need of grace.
The rest of us are.
Peace
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How much do you truly believe you would enjoy living in a perfect world? Paradise...
by stillstuckcruz inwhat sort of conversations could you have in a perfect world?
i have a hard enough time creating conversation in this world.
when i need a conversation topic, i might mention a news story, or some problem such as the price of gas.
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bob1999
If you go to Paradise you will be feed, in full measure, from the tree of Life by Christ.
I don't think you will have any trouble making conversation.
Peace
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